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punisa
25th April 2010, 11:36
Although creepy, but still - pretty astonishing work.
The dog died naturally, so I guess there was no brutality involved.

They severed the head from the corpse and connected it to artificial circulation.
Results are very interesting.
This was conducted by the Soviets in 1940.

Have these experiments continued?
How about human experiments?
People donate organs all the time, I don't think it would be a problem to find people willing to sign up for their heads being removed in order to benefit scientific research.

video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEcUTMpyRLY

x371322
26th April 2010, 04:03
That is incredible. Definitely creepy, but incredible. Poor dog though...

Invincible Summer
26th April 2010, 04:04
Reminds me of Re-Animator

x371322
26th April 2010, 04:42
Makes you wonder if we'll ever see this for real:

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Science/Images/futurama-al-gore-head.jpg

Sir Comradical
26th April 2010, 04:51
Only in the Soviet Union...

TheSultan
26th April 2010, 20:38
This is amazing, albeit strange, very very strange.

Os Cangaceiros
6th July 2010, 02:15
Reminds me of Re-Animator

Dellamorte Dellamore and The Signal both have great re-animated head scenes, as well.

Blackscare
6th July 2010, 02:50
Only in the Soviet Union...


It was actually a joint effort of the US and the Soviet Union.


I always wondered just how they avoided brain damage, or if they could at all. There were reports of dogs living on for months or as much as a year afterwards, though I don't know how true that is.

NGNM85
6th July 2010, 06:30
It was actually a joint effort of the US and the Soviet Union.


I always wondered just how they avoided brain damage, or if they could at all. There were reports of dogs living on for months or as much as a year afterwards, though I don't know how true that is.

It was more of a competition. The first expiriments, involving a dog's head being severed and kept alive in a dish was performed by Soviet doctor; Sergei Brukonenko in the twenties. This was done by injecting an anti-coagulant, and plugging the major arteries into tubes to a pumping machine that acted as a primitive heart and lungs. None of the heads lived more than a few hours. Later, in the 50's, a Soviet doctor named Vladimir Demikov stunned the world by successfully sowing a severed dog's head to another dog. The transplanted head received blood and oxygen from it's new body. The longest-lived dog(s?) lived almost a month. Not long afterwards the US government devoted itself to one-upping the Soviets, and a Dr. Robert White successfully transplanted a brain from one dog into a dog's neck, but the brain was only connected to the circulatory stem, the animal was virtually unaffected, about a decade later he took off a monkey's head and transplanted it onto another monkey's body sucessfully. However, the spinal column was severed, so the animal was paralyzed from the neck down. I actually was just reading about this in
a book called; "Elephants on Acid and Other Bizarre Expiriments." It's a fun read. These expiriments may sound grusome but they paved the way for modern organ transplant surgeries.

The Fighting_Crusnik
6th July 2010, 06:46
Something tells me that this is fake... but I am somewhat of a skeptical person :p in this case, if I saw it, I'd believe it. But first off, how is the dead able to move in its entirety, and secondly, isn't the tongue deep in the neck of a dog... the neck that isn't there?

NGNM85
6th July 2010, 07:02
Something tells me that this is fake... but I am somewhat of a skeptical person :p in this case, if I saw it, I'd believe it. But first off, how is the dead able to move in its entirety, and secondly, isn't the tongue deep in the neck of a dog... the neck that isn't there?

Oh, it's absolutely true. You can look it up. The dog's head was severed below where the tongue attaches. They stopped the bleeding, and connected tubes and a pump to the major arteries to keep oxygenated blood going through the head. The spinal cord was severed at the neck, but all the nerves above the incision were perfectly functional. The dog could hear, see, even chew or swallow, although food or liquid just popped out the bottom.

The Fighting_Crusnik
6th July 2010, 07:04
hmm... makes sense, but still a bit skeptical... lol, another thing... why haven't they begun doing this to people murdered... the ones who don't have something jammed into their head :p so that they can get their point of view XD

NGNM85
6th July 2010, 08:05
hmm... makes sense, but still a bit skeptical... lol, another thing... why haven't they begun doing this to people murdered... the ones who don't have something jammed into their head :p so that they can get their point of view XD

You don't have to be skeptical because you can look it up.

Doing that would be impossible, for starters. In these experiments they severed the head, then immediately hooked it up to a life suport machine. There wasn't enough time for brain death to set in, the dog was never dead. If it had been, this would be impossible. Same with a person. Not to mention this would probably be akin to torture, inflicting serious and innecessary trauma on the person, even if it was successful.

Wolf Larson
9th July 2010, 03:03
I'm sure somewhere sometime this was done to humans.

Comrade Marxist Bro
9th July 2010, 15:37
hmm... makes sense, but still a bit skeptical... lol, another thing... why haven't they begun doing this to people murdered... the ones who don't have something jammed into their head :p so that they can get their point of view XD

It would be some kind of marvel of modern science, but there are ethical reasons.

Much more interesting stuff on the same note: monkey head transplants, actually performed in the United States by one unusual researcher, which probably doesn't sound nearly as sinister as a dog head operation done on that side of the Iron Curtain...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_transplant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_transplant)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/1263758.stm

Or just try to Google "monkey head transplant" or whatever.

Forward Union
9th July 2010, 18:37
that is pretty incredible, I didnt realise this was doable atall

Forward Union
9th July 2010, 18:40
People donate organs all the time, I don't think it would be a problem to find people willing to sign up for their heads being removed in order to benefit scientific research.

You might find some heavy objections from people. They would have to remove your head while you were still alive for one thing, as with all organ donations. The difference is, you essentially will be living on as a head, which is probably quite a traumatic experience.

No doubt you will find some volonteers though.

DaComm
10th July 2010, 04:41
Didn't they try to do this in the most recent X-Files movie?

AK
11th July 2010, 10:44
Didn't they try to do this in the most recent X-Files movie?
Indeed.

In the 2008 film The X-Files: I Want to Believe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_X-Files:_I_Want_to_Believe), head transplants are being carried out illegally in West Virginia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia) by a Russian medical team in order to save the life of a man suffering from cancer.

RED DAVE
11th July 2010, 14:12
I remember a spread in the old Life Magazine, probably in the mid-50s, showing an experiment where a Russian doctor took the upper torso of a small dog and attached it to the back of a larger one. He explicitly said that he was working toward human organ transplanting. (I think he mentioned a leg.)

RED DAVE