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Ericka Huggins
21st April 2010, 15:44
Racist White Nationalist peckerwoods often refer to black people as monkeys because of the colour of their skin right?

Yet last time i checked, monkeys and most primates, with the exception of the gorrilla have very white skin underneath their fur, so why dont white nationalists hate anyone with black hair, better yet i should ask, why do they hate anyone because of the colour of their skin?

Is the Monkey slur because of something else or do these idiots genuinely believe monkeys are black:blink:

Q
21st April 2010, 15:47
They're just morons like that.

The Vegan Marxist
21st April 2010, 15:50
why's this in the politics section?

Don't get me wrong. I understand what you're getting at & I feel ya, but this should be placed somewhere else. But yes, I agree with Q on his statement.

Ericka Huggins
21st April 2010, 15:55
The reason i ask is when my old best mate lived in their old appartment a group of white people shouted stuff like go get a bannana and look its curious george followed by monkey noises.

He walked up to them and said, no your the white skinned monkey, im the 250 pound black guerrilla, i only eat plants but i would sure beat your scrawny monkey ass, they shut up about then

But i put it in politics to find out if the monkey slur was a poitical thing or just an average racial slur, i thought it must be something else relating to political ideology as monkeys are white

A.R.Amistad
21st April 2010, 15:58
I think you give Nazis more intellectual credit then they can really possess.

Mendax
21st April 2010, 16:00
The roots of it might have something to do with slaves originaly being taken from Africa and being viewed as "animals"?

Seems like the kind of thing people would connect to monkeys in ye olde times.

The Vegan Marxist
21st April 2010, 16:01
The reason i ask is when my old best mate lived in their old appartment a group of white people shouted stuff like go get a bannana and look its curious george followed by monkey noises.

He walked up to them and said, no your the white skinned monkey, im the 250 pound black guerrilla, i only eat plants but i would sure beat your scrawny monkey ass, they shut up about then

But i put it in politics to find out if the monkey slur was a poitical thing or just an average racial slur, i thought it must be something else relating to political ideology as monkeys are white

It's just sheer ignorance. They saw them as monkey-look-alikes & saw it as a way of referring them as dumb animals - hence the dominance they seem to believe they have over the black race.

Ericka Huggins
21st April 2010, 16:02
also,the people who were shouting the insults were in college and i knew one from my first house, the apartment was near mine thats how we met, so they shouldnt be that stupid, but if they believe melolin has anything to do with intelligence then they must be fucking braindead

red cat
21st April 2010, 16:05
Bourgeois education does not have much to do with cleverness.

Chairman Wow
21st April 2010, 16:06
also the idea of the aryan race being superior. 'dominant species'. monkeys/chimpanzees being a less evolved primate, primitive, lacking the intelligence of the human race. they see it as the aryan race representing the fully evolved mammal, and blacks being subhuman. the same reason 'neanderthal' is percieved as an insult, as it implies that the person is less evolved than others.

or, they're just dumb and see brown fur - relate it to brown skin 'durr look at da monkey'. which is much more likely.

The Vegan Marxist
21st April 2010, 16:09
also,the people who were shouting the insults were in college and i knew one from my first house, the apartment was near mine thats how we met, so they shouldnt be that stupid, but if they believe melolin has anything to do with intelligence then they must be fucking braindead

I don't know where this one article is, but it helped me understand a lot better when it came to racist minds & to not be so one-sided by saying that they are ignorant of the entirety. But it was an article written by a member of the Klan, though they don't specify who he's part of in the article, & speaks highly against the federal reserve. He didn't even put out a jew-bashing statement in it, which surprised me. But his arguments against it was very good & very well thought out. It only surprised me more when I looked up the name to find out what group he's part of. Environmental conditioning is a very advance set of learning while growing up. One could be one of the smartest individuals you'd ever meet, but that doesn't take away the fact that he also refers to black people as "niggers". Don't let a diploma fool you, because the upper class has been doing that to many people for many years. We need to be more open-minded about these things.

Robocommie
21st April 2010, 16:11
Personally, one of the things I like most about being homo sapiens is that it means I am distantly related on a genetic level with monkeys. They're so awesome!

The Vegan Marxist
21st April 2010, 16:24
Personally, one of the things I like most about being homo sapiens is that it means I am distantly related on a genetic level with monkeys. They're so awesome!

Monkey's are a lot smarter than humans as well in certain areas:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsidDezFKAQ

Chief Of Staff
21st April 2010, 16:26
alot of people think we are descended from monkeys, however we are not, they are our cousins.

Also the thing with rascists is, if they are rich, they spout their hatefull rhetoric in order to seperate and weaken the working class, the problem is, the working class, often the poorest sector of workers in particular, believe this and develop a mental image of us versus those black invaders, even though, the white man kidnapped black people and brought them here against their will, now these idiots want to deport them against their will, unbeievable

Angry Young Man
21st April 2010, 16:30
Because they both get hanged in Hartlepool :p

Robocommie
21st April 2010, 16:44
Because they both get hanged in Hartlepool :p

Only French monkeys, of course. ;)

Robocommie
21st April 2010, 16:48
Monkey's are a lot smarter than humans as well in certain areas:

We have to do everything we can to prevent them getting weapons or it will be Planet of the Apes all over again.

Btw; thanks for the video, that's pretty cool.

RedSonRising
21st April 2010, 16:59
Besides the view of them as animals from Africa and the black color of Ape fur, I the shape of their skull had something to do with it. I'm in no way shape or form condoning the comparison of blacks to apes, but racist scientists have argued the roundness and other features of the "negroid skull" point to a primitive capacity. Couple that physical component with the racist imperialist attitude of the white elite and you have yourself a zoologistically inspired racial slur.

Chief Of Staff
21st April 2010, 17:00
yes red son, it was also debunke by all major scientists except from a few people, who worryingly have nobel peace prizes.

chegitz guevara
21st April 2010, 17:21
Keep in mind that for most people, apes = monkeys

Nearly all apes have black skin, except for some younger chimps.

Ultimately, however, racist views don't need to have logic behind it. They are inherently irrational.

Dimentio
21st April 2010, 18:37
Racist White Nationalist peckerwoods often refer to black people as monkeys because of the colour of their skin right?

Yet last time i checked, monkeys and most primates, with the exception of the gorrilla have very white skin underneath their fur, so why dont white nationalists hate anyone with black hair, better yet i should ask, why do they hate anyone because of the colour of their skin?

Is the Monkey slur because of something else or do these idiots genuinely believe monkeys are black:blink:

It is because of the fact that monkeys exist in Africa. Hence the association.

Stand Your Ground
21st April 2010, 18:54
It's pretty stupid cause most people believe we all evolved from monkey's. So yayyyy we're all monkey's! :D

The Vegan Marxist
21st April 2010, 19:36
It's pretty stupid cause most people believe we all evolved from monkey's. So yayyyy we're all monkey's! :D

The odd thing is, both people who know evolution is a FACT & those who thinks it's b.s. agree that we didn't evolve from apes! lmao I mean, it just shows how willfully ignorant creationists are when they continue to say "We didn't evolve from monkeys!" & still think that they're going to prove us wrong with that simple statement. :rolleyes:

Mendax
21st April 2010, 20:34
The odd thing is, both people who know evolution is a FACT & those who thinks it's b.s. agree that we didn't evolve from apes! lmao I mean, it just shows how willfully ignorant creationists are when they continue to say "We didn't evolve from monkeys!" & still think that they're going to prove us wrong with that simple statement. :rolleyes:

I know people who won't beleive in evolution because they think that if we evolved from monkeys ALL the monkeys would have evolved and they'd just be people...

The Vegan Marxist
21st April 2010, 20:37
I know people who won't beleive in evelution because they think that if we evolved from monkeys ALL the monkeys would have evolved and they'd just be people...

:laugh: Weird, unintelligent people. Though, when you show people videos like the one I provided, which showed how monkeys have the intelligence skills greater than humans you then get attacked because it shows how monkeys do evolve too, just in a different manner, like every other species in this world, including the human race.

Mindtoaster
21st April 2010, 20:50
The reason i ask is when my old best mate lived in their old appartment a group of white people shouted stuff like go get a bannana and look its curious george followed by monkey noises.

He walked up to them and said, no your the white skinned monkey, im the 250 pound black guerrilla, i only eat plants but i would sure beat your scrawny monkey ass, they shut up about then

But i put it in politics to find out if the monkey slur was a poitical thing or just an average racial slur, i thought it must be something else relating to political ideology as monkeys are white

God damn :blink:

Where do you live?

Robocommie
21st April 2010, 21:38
I guess if you REALLY want to know, go to Stormfront and ask. Just be sure to wear a Hazmat suit.

kasama-rl
21st April 2010, 22:00
I think their point is to call African people sub-human and non-human. The denial of humanity to Black people (i.e. the assertion of both inferior and non-human nature) is a key tenet of white racism (back to the days of slavery). The argument historically used against racial intermarriage is that "kinds" (the word for species used by fundamentalist Christians) should not be "mixed" -- i.e. an assertion that white and black people are not the same species.

Robocommie
21st April 2010, 22:10
I think their point is to call African people sub-human and non-human. The denial of humanity to Black people (i.e. the assertion of both inferior and non-human nature) is a key tenet of white racism (back to the days of slavery). The argument historically used against racial intermarriage is that "kinds" (the word for species used by fundamentalist Christians) should not be "mixed" -- i.e. an assertion that white and black people are not the same species.

This is exactly right, I think.

Angry Young Man
22nd April 2010, 00:58
It is because of the fact that monkeys exist in Africa. Hence the association.

Lots of animals come from Africa. That's why they call it the cradle of life. Why not Giraffes or leopards or hippopotamuses or giant ants or bilharzia snails?

I need less of a childish sense of humour.

I once got a dirty look for saying Thierry Henry looked like a monkey. I was like 'I don't mean that to be racist. He's just really fucking ugly.'

Crux
22nd April 2010, 01:43
Lots of animals come from Africa. That's why they call it the cradle of life. Why not Giraffes or leopards or hippopotamuses or giant ants or bilharzia snails?

I need less of a childish sense of humour.

I once got a dirty look for saying Thierry Henry looked like a monkey. I was like 'I don't mean that to be racist. He's just really fucking ugly.'
Speciest.

The Vegan Marxist
22nd April 2010, 01:45
Lots of animals come from Africa. That's why they call it the cradle of life. Why not Giraffes or leopards or hippopotamuses or giant ants or bilharzia snails?

I need less of a childish sense of humour.

I once got a dirty look for saying Thierry Henry looked like a monkey. I was like 'I don't mean that to be racist. He's just really fucking ugly.'

We came from Africa! lol

Angry Young Man
22nd April 2010, 02:49
VM: I didn't exclude humans. In fact, isn't it the Cradle of Life because it's where humans come from? I just used the phrase to help my point.

Mayakovsky: I'll stop being a speciesist when chickens, pigs, lambs and cows stop tasting so good

gorillafuck
22nd April 2010, 02:56
Maybe something to do with monkeys being in Africa (since slaves were brought over from Africa).

Don't try to dig too deeply into it, I'd say.

Sendo
22nd April 2010, 06:17
The Congo jungle thing: monkeys in the trees, blacks turned into something lower than a workhorse. Animal connection. But it's also probably the fact that ALL humans look like apes, but we see ourselves as "normal" (love that "asian eyes and normal eyes dichotomy").

White people = hairy like apes (I always thought my Italian-American father looked like a wolf or something with the hair on his hands and feet...some sort of animal)
Yellow people = mouths like macaques (when they get old, Japanese, Koreans, etc have their cheeks shrivel inward kind of like macaques, whites end up looking like turkeys if anything with their old man jowels)

We all retain certain features that show our common ancestry with other primates. Some features are easier to ridicule, but logic doesn't enter into it.

Last time I saw a gorilla he had body hair and his hair wasn't curly.

You can also look at the logic of Japanese imperialist taking over China, looking at them as unwashed, stupid, and ugly and yellow (for that matter, when i tell Koreans that blackface is bad in the way that cartoons of buck-toothed Hirohito are bad many say that only Chinese and Japanese have slanted eyes of course, but not themselves). I wondered why then, that the Japanese in WW2 never had a purge of Sinicized Japanese customs. I found it odd to watch movies showing Japanese lording over the Chinese with slogans written in slightly Japanified Chinese characters. My professor said that logic doesn't enter into it all. Doesn't have to.