Sendo
16th April 2010, 13:02
Mayor Matt Ryan of Bignhamton, NY appeared on Democracy Now! to talk about his installation of a giant outdoor ticker for the cost of the wars since 2001.
He talked about his early youth during the days Vietnam's horror photos came out, leading many to not only question but remember to think about the war.
He says since he can't get the photos the mainstream media won't produce, he'll do the next best thing he can think of.
What do you think? Will this daily reminder in a time of budget cuts have an effect? Will it be more effective than pamphleteering in the short run?
Raightning
16th April 2010, 14:02
It seems to me a far more effective anti-war tactic than pamphleteering. Measures such as this embed the war into the collective conscience, ensuring it won't be forgotten, and provide a constant reminder of the damage that the war is doing in at least one way.
It's resoundingly capitalistic, of course; an anti-war tactic very much built in the libertarian and popular-capitalist model (e.g. OUR MONEY BEING WASTED). However, as much as that makes me uneasy on the knee's reaction, we have to see that as an opportunity - an opportunity to oppose the war on a broad basis, and to use the anti-war movement as a basis from which to educate and instill a stronger consciousness of the broader situation among potential comrades. It's much easier to make your argument when you start on the basis of "I agree with you about this."
No doubt of course that the Mayor didn't quite intend it that way, but you take what you can get. ;)
CartCollector
17th April 2010, 07:54
You have to wonder, would a total deaths caused by the war ticker be more effective? Knowing Americans, probably not, because any atrocity their country commits is justifiable.
RedSonRising
17th April 2010, 08:17
I'll have to check this out personally. Sounds like an interesting development. It's ideas like these that more organizations need to convert into guerrilla marketing tactics in order to convey ideas in blatant but sharply ironic presentations that resonate unbiasedly among the average working citizen while being viewable to a large enough number of people. I'm not sure how I feel about this particular set-up, I suppose I rather it be done than not, just a thought that sprung up from reading the post.
fredbergen
17th April 2010, 13:08
After the Nazis came to power in Germany, the response of the social democrats was to lobby the Hitlerites for different spending priorities -- their slogan was "butter not guns." The efforts of the popular-frontist left to "oppose" U.S. imperialist war in terms of amendments to the war budget ("money for jobs, not war" etc.) run in the same vein, and have been just as effective.
Here is what the Trotskyists wrote about this kind of bourgeois politics that defines the "anti-war" movement, from The Internationalist no. 15 (http://www.internationalist.org/int15toc.html) (January-February 2003):
Needed: Not Popular-Front Peace Crawls, But Class War
This is an imperialist war for world domination. The issue facing opponents of imperialism is how to fight against it. As has occurred repeatedly since the 1960s, there is now a growing antiwar movement. The strategy of this movement is to look for an alliance with bourgeois liberals (if they can find any) to restrain the Bush gang. In the 1930s, such a coalition became known as the “popular front,” and the fundamentals remain the same: tying the working class and the left to a section of the capitalist ruling class. Peace marches such as the January 18 demonstration in Washington, D.C. are a form of bourgeois pressure politics. Yet the Democratic Party is not about to challenge the Republican White House, for they are partners in managing the affairs of U.S. imperialism. After all, it was Bill Clinton’s secretary of state, Madeleine Albright, who arrogantly declared the United States “the indispensable nation.”
It is important to understand that the war on Iraq is also a war on working people, the poor, Blacks, Latinos, immigrants and other oppressed sectors in the U.S. Even after the collapse of Enron – which severely shook the stock markets, already reeling over the bursting of the technology “bubble” – the White House came right back with a plan for tax cuts in which most of the benefits would go to the richest 1 percent of the population. When anyone objects, Bush accuses them of advocating “class warfare.” The Democrats rush to say, “not us” – for they are representatives of the capitalist class just as much as are the Republicans. So they end up voting for Bush’s foreign wars, domestic repression and pro big business economic policies.
Bush is right to suggest that any real opposition to his policies would have to be class war, for that is what he is waging. He won’t get such opposition from the Democrats. In fact, most of the plans for increased domestic repression, the phony “war on terrorism,” the looming attacks on Iraq and North Korea, were drawn up under the Clinton administration. The leaders of the popular-front “antiwar movement” also play by the rulebook of the bourgeois political game, and precisely because of that they are unable to mount a real opposition to imperialist war. If they want to get Democratic “doves” on their platforms, they have to tailor their program to what these bourgeois politicians will accept.
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Jesse Jackson carrying social-patriotic slogan “Money for Jobs, Not for War,” leads October 26 “antiwar” march on White House after defending 1991 Gulf War.
A dramatic example was at the October 26 demonstration in Washington, D.C. when black Democrat Jesse Jackson spoke from the platform. Jackson declared, “Some wars are necessary…. Getting Saddam out of Kuwait was necessary.” Many youths in the crowd were shocked at this grotesque defense of the first Gulf War, which slaughtered over 100,000 Iraqis, but it’s hardly surprising from Jackson. The demonstration organizers certainly knew what to expect, for the A.N.S.W.E.R antiwar coalition is run by the Workers World Party (WWP), which for years specialized in organizing demos for Jackson. And even after his speech, they were careful to put him at the head of the march past the White House.
The other main speaker in Washington was Ramsey Clark, founder of the International Action Coalition (another group led by the WWP) who started off with a eulogy for the thousands of U.S. soldiers who died in Vietnam and whose names are on the nearby Vietnam War Memorial. Clark did not mention the millions of Vietnamese killed by the U.S. in that counterrevolutionary war. It should be recalled that Clark was the head of the Justice Department under Lyndon Johnson, when antiwar demonstrators were chanting “Hey, hey, LBJ, how many kids did you kill today?” Clark was the U.S.’ “top cop” and boss of the FBI, and authorized the war by FBI chief J. Edgar Hoover against the Black Panther Party that left scores of Panthers dead and hundreds in jail.
How can you fundamentally oppose imperialist war in alliance with defenders of imperialist war and organizers of capitalist repression? Answer: you can’t. But seeking a “coalition” with such representatives of the ruling class is the entire program of the “peace” groups. In 1971, the main builder of the popular-front “antiwar movement,” the Socialist Workers Party, drew the class line in blood by beating up leftists (supporters of the Spartacist League and Progressive Labor Party) who protested the presence of Democratic Senator Vance Hartke and union bureaucrat Victor Reuther (a longtime bag man for CIA subversion of unions overseas) at a “National Peace Action Coalition” meeting.
In the 1930s, James Burnham, then a leader of the U.S. Trotskyist movement, wrote a pamphlet titled, The People’s Front: The New Betrayal (1937). Referring to the application of popular-frontism in the United States, he wrote:
“Most significant of all is the application of the People’s Front policy to ‘anti-war work.’ Through a multitude of pacifist organizations, and especially through the directly controlled American League against War and Fascism, the Stalinists aim at the creation of a ‘broad, classless, People’s Front of all those opposed to war.’ The class collaborationist character of the People’s Front policy is strikingly revealed through the Stalinist attitude in these organizations. They rule out in advance the Marxist analysis of war as necessarily resulting from the inner conflicts of capitalism and therefore genuinely opposed only by revolutionary class struggle against the capitalist order; and, in contrast, maintain that all persons, from whatever social class or group, whether or not opposed to capitalism, can ‘unite’ to stop war.”Today, the WWP, ISO et al. congratulate themselves on getting off to a quick start in building a new antiwar movement against the new war. “The Antiwar Movement: A Great Beginning,” headlined the ISO’s International Socialist Review (November-December 2002). “Some who are understandably impatient for a mass radicalization in U.S. society might be frustrated by the fact that the new movement is dominated by liberal ideas,” it writes, counseling patience. The ISO calls for a two-point program, “No war – no sanctions,” and for the formation of antiwar committees which “should be able to embrace anyone who supports these demands, whether they are socialists who oppose U.S. imperialism in principle or Democratic Party sympathizers who believe that the UN can be a force for peace.”
As a direct consequence of this pandering to the bourgeois liberals, there has been an outbreak of anti-Communist redbaiting among these “disparate forces.” The “peace is patriotic” crowd has gone after A.N.S.W.E.R. by pointing to the WWP’s support to North Korea, and attacks the Maoist Revolutionary Communist Party’s role in the “Not In Our Name” (NION) coalition. Interestingly, this comes not only from the liberals around The Nation but also from the rad-lib friends of Noam Chomsky in Z-net. Even the ISO has gotten some flak from its liberal and Green Party allies who want to counterpose the “war on terror” to the war on Iraq and wrap themselves in the American flag. This McCarthyite witchhunting is the logical outcome of the nature of this class-collaborationist movement. Rejecting a “red” struggle for socialist revolution, the parlor pinks get into trouble with their red-white-and-blue liberal allies.
“Guns vs. Butter”: Popular-Front Economism and Imperialist War
The program of class collaboration is also shown in the demands raised by the various competing and cooperating antiwar groups. Currently, there are A.N.S.W.E.R., led by the WWP; “Not In Our Name,” in which the RCP plays a prominent behind-the-scenes role, along with the Communist Party U.S.A., and various liberal pacifist groups. The social-democratic International Socialist Organization (ISO) participates in both. Despite organizational maneuvering and competition, the political differences between these Stalinist and social-democratic reformists are minimal to non-existent. All of them present one form or another of social-pacifist and social-patriotic politics.
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Social-patriotic slogans of antiwar popular front.
What they mean is no American blood for Iraqi oil.
“Not In Our Name,” favors the slogan, “No Blood for Oil.” Control of oil supplies certainly plays a key role in the looming invasion of Iraq, and a lesser role in the preceding war over Afghanistan with the oil riches of the Caspian and former Soviet Central Asia (dubbed “Pipelinestan” by some journalist wags) in the background. For example, Democrat Clinton’s 1999 war on Yugoslavia, which was ostensibly about human rights and actually about the NATO imperialists carving up Southeast Europe. It’s not accident that quite a few of the liberals populating the “NION” coalition were supporters of that imperialist war. Like Jesse Jackson, they just don’t like this war. Appealing to liberals who blanch at the thought of taking a side with the people of Iraq against U.S. aggression, the reformists leave vague the question of whose blood will be flowing massively as a result of this war. They attack the how of the war (like how much it will cost), not the “why” – imperialism, which as Lenin stressed is capitalism in its epoch of decay.
Another slogan that was prominent in the October 6 demonstration sponsored by NION in New York City’s Central Park, which drew some 25,000 protesters, was “regime change begins at home.” Again, at first glance this may seem radical, but what’s behind it is the demand that the Republican usurper Bush, who was “elected” by a 5-to-4 majority on the Supreme Court, should be replaced by a Democrat. Similarly, when all of these coalitions denounce “Bush’s war,” it is a clear appeal to rope in Democrats.
Yet another common denominator demand, especially favored by WWP/IAC/A.N.S.W.E.R, is “Money for Jobs, Not for War,” or variants such as “Money for Schools, Not for War.” Again this is an appeal to bourgeois liberals who support American capitalism, but are worried about their favorite social programs getting crowded out by the “bloated” Pentagon budget. Reformists like such slogans, because they argue that the middle class can only won over by appealing to their wallets and pocket books. So the “peace” coalitions adopt a dual marketing strategy: for the youth, “multi-culti” slogans about the plight of the Iraqis; for their parents, “butter vs. guns” social-patriotism.
The current issue of Workers World (16 January) is quite explicit about this, with an article titled “Guns for the Workers, Butter for the Rich.” Another example of these same theme is the front for the ISO’s Socialist Worker (8 November 2002), which proclaims: “Billions for Iraq war, tax cuts for the rich, No help for the jobless: Washington’s Twisted Priorities.” As if imperialist war is simply a question of budget priorities rather than mass murder by the U.S. bourgeoisie (and not just Bush). Perhaps the most absurd example of this utopian-reformist and economist approach to war was in the 1980s, when Socialist Action’s Silvia Weinstein campaigned for childcare centers on the slogan, “It will be a great day when the schools get all the money they need, and the Navy has to hold a bake sale to buy a ship.” Again, this poses the question of what their attitude would be if the government wasn’t cutting social programs. For example, Democrat LBJ fought the war on Vietnam on the program of “butter and guns,” spreading around a lot of money to anti-poverty groups and launching the Medicare program.
At bottom, all these demands are what Lenin termed “social-patriotic” and “social-pacifist.” In other words, they seek to channel opposition to a particular imperialist war into a dispute over the “priorities” of bourgeoisie rather than into a fight against the capitalist system which produces such wars over and over. A look at the origin of the slogan of “butter vs. guns” can help to see why this is rejected by revolutionary Marxists. In 1936, Hitler’s deputy Hermann Göring, who had just been put in charge of the economic program for rearming Germany, announced at a mass meeting in the Berlin Sports Palace that the new watchword would be “Kanonen statt Butter” (guns instead of butter). A couple of years later, the Volksfront (Popular Front) of the Social Democrats (SPD) put out a ten-point program titled “German Freedom” calling for “Butter instead of guns.” Their answer to Hitler’s aggressive militarism, which threatened to unleash a new imperialist war, was a dispute over budget priorities.
The task of those who would fight the Nazi dictatorship drive toward war was not to argue about its spending priorities, but rather to fight for its overthrow through workers revolution, something dissident bourgeois politicians could never support. Today, the central question posed by Washington’s drive toward war is not to focus on relative spending but the need to defeat the imperialists and defend Iraq through sharp class struggle. In the first Gulf War, the then-revolutionary Spartacist League raised as its central slogan, “Defeat U.S. Imperialism! Defend Iraq!” Today it has demonstrably dropped the call to defeat “its own” bourgeoisie as part of a sharp rightward shift (see “SL Hard to Starboard,” The Internationalist No. 15, January-February 2003).
The Internationalist Group and League for the Fourth International have called for workers action against the war on Iraq, including labor strikes and boycotting war materiel. In contrast, the bulk of the left is intent on building a bigger, better and “broader” popular-front antiwar coalition – that is, looking to the liberals rather than to the working class. Recently a number of local unions have passed antiwar motions (Chicago teachers and Teamsters) and linking the government’s anti-labor repression to the war on Iraq (Oakland longshore workers). But passing paper motions will not stop U.S. tanks – what’s needed is the mobilization of the power of the workers movement directly against the war drive. The recent action by British train engineers in refusing to move a freight train loaded with munitions bound for the Gulf is an important development, which should be taken up by class-struggle militants internationally.
In the struggle against the war on Iraq by Bush and the Democrats, it is vital to build a revolutionary workers party. Such a party would be forged in sharp political struggle against the reformists who would chain opponents of imperialist war to the bourgeois Democratic and Green parties. Ultimately, the only way imperialist war can be eliminated is not through endless “antiwar movements” with bourgeois politicians but through international socialist revolution led by a Trotskyist Fourth International. ■
Sendo
18th April 2010, 07:41
It seems to me a far more effective anti-war tactic than pamphleteering. Measures such as this embed the war into the collective conscience, ensuring it won't be forgotten, and provide a constant reminder of the damage that the war is doing in at least one way.
It's resoundingly capitalistic, of course; an anti-war tactic very much built in the libertarian and popular-capitalist model (e.g. OUR MONEY BEING WASTED). However, as much as that makes me uneasy on the knee's reaction, we have to see that as an opportunity - an opportunity to oppose the war on a broad basis, and to use the anti-war movement as a basis from which to educate and instill a stronger consciousness of the broader situation among potential comrades. It's much easier to make your argument when you start on the basis of "I agree with you about this."
No doubt of course that the Mayor didn't quite intend it that way, but you take what you can get. ;)
The mayor mentions it DOES NOT even include death count. He's saying he wants to think about money being wasted that could be spent on human, social, infrastructure services.
This is NOT from a right-libertarian perspective.
freedbergen, I appreciate the link, but I don't get it. I don't think the left failed to stop fascism because it said "butter not guns". I don't think re-engineering slogans is to going to make as much of a difference as more conversation among the masses, organizing, political strikes (general, not wage-oriented strikes), or other things. I feel that your posting the article is in itself a Trotskyist act. I'm glad the mayor's doing it. Better than nothing. I'm not advocating simplicity in our platform as communists, just applauding one man using what little power he has to revive the debate on pure issues and not on finger-pointing or Messiahism or lesser evilism as practiced by Dems, CPUSA, et al
fredbergen
18th April 2010, 13:30
freedbergen, I appreciate the link, but I don't get it. I don't think the left failed to stop fascism because it said "butter not guns". I don't think re-engineering slogans is to going to make as much of a difference as more conversation among the masses, organizing, political strikes (general, not wage-oriented strikes), or other things. I feel that your posting the article is in itself a Trotskyist act. I'm glad the mayor's doing it. Better than nothing.
Well, slogans mean something. They condense and highlight aspects of a political program, that is, what to do, who should do it, and how.
Yes, it's true that you can't explain Hitler's hold on power by referring to to the social-democrats' slogan "butter not guns." But their slogan exemplified, and motivated, a political program that was the opposite of preparing and organizing the working class to bring down the capitalist rule and replace it with their own.
The same goes for similar slogans and efforts today. This stunt by a bourgeois politician is not "better than nothing." It does not help "conversation among the masses" if by conversation you mean political education. It certainly does nothing to organize political strikes against the war! In its political implications it is fundamentally misleading. Capital doesn't cut back on social programs because it is doesn't have the money since it is spending so much on war (it spent more on bank bailouts, in the midst of a very expensive war). Capital cuts back on social programs because it is waging class war against the workers and oppressed "at home" to nail down its domination of the world market, for the same reason that it slaughters people in Iraq and Afghanistan. Imperialism is not a budget line-item.
But this stunt is what the popular front for "peace" has been yearning for for so many years. The slogans about money for x, y, and z "not war" are designed to appeal to capitalist politicians who support imperialism but think that the current war is bad policy. And now you have your ally! Too bad he's not a bigger fish, a senator or governor or something, but I guess you have to start somewhere.
So no, changing slogans won't change everything. But slogans reflect political program. They signify which side you're on. You say strikes against the war would be a good idea. But who raised that slogan? Who agitated for it while everyone else was misleading the workers and spreading democratic illusions about the war budget? Who opposed all the capitalist politicians while everyone else was looking to recruit one or two Democrats to grace their speakers' podium at the semi-annual peace parade? Slogans matter because politics matters, because the workers revolution will be a conscious act of the working class, and only the workers revolution will put an end to imperialist war.
Raightning
18th April 2010, 14:04
The mayor mentions it DOES NOT even include death count. He's saying he wants to think about money being wasted that could be spent on human, social, infrastructure services.
This is NOT from a right-libertarian perspective.
Point taken on the Mayor himself, but it still strikes me that it's going to be most effective against right-libertarian types. It's nothing to do with deathcount, simply the libertarian kneejerk reaction to hearing about 'their money' being spent on anything (forgive the stereotyping, but you get the idea; people easily get angry if they see tax money spent on things they don't think benefits them, and it seems to have become a very basic - indeed, apolitical - reaction in Western culture).
You or I would think of it in terms of 'that money could be spent much more gainfully', but there will be people who will think 'that's MY money being wasted', and get interested. Definitely not a perfect entrance, but we can't be fussy about which way our doors open (now, who we house within them, that's a different story, but I think to completely give up on working-class people because the capitalist propaganda shoved down their throat from birth got in at some point would be wrong, and foolish to boot).
It'll strengthen the resolve of the left, but it'll also increase the audience from which the anti-war movement - and thus leftists working within that movement - have to work from. That's all I'm saying.
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