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A.R.Amistad
15th April 2010, 04:28
If this "Confederate Day" crap is passed into an official holiday, American Revolutionaries, especially but not exclusively in the south, need to get out and protest. Burn Confederate battle flags (be safe guys) pass out literature, explain the truth of history, build class consciousness and smash racism and fascism!
Nolan
15th April 2010, 04:31
Burning the confederate flag around here is a sure way to get your tires slashed open.
Boru
15th April 2010, 11:02
Slash back.
Spawn of Stalin
15th April 2010, 12:08
I don't know much about U.S. history, but are some people really that openly defensive of the Confederacy?
Nolan
15th April 2010, 17:33
I don't know much about U.S. history, but are some people really that openly defensive of the Confederacy?
I don't think it's the Confederacy as much as it is the rural American conservative identity. My state was part of the Union. :confused:
x371322
15th April 2010, 17:53
Yeah my state was technically part of the Union (KY got kind of divided)... but you wouldn't know it by talking to some of the folks around here. There's a confederate flag sticker on the back of every truck. I hear that phrase "heritage, not hate" on a fairly regular basis...
Fuck your heritage. That's my response.
Nolan
15th April 2010, 18:20
A lot of racist people from Ohio went to fight for the south anyway. There are graves with confederate flags here, I'll get a picture sometime.
x371322
15th April 2010, 18:37
Here's a little digital flyer I just made. I threw it together in about 5 minutes so it's nothing special, but I think it gets the message across pretty well.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e345/stigmata_martyr_band/fuck_confederacy.jpg
bayano
16th April 2010, 21:47
Are yall talking about Confederate History MONTH? Yes, people are that defensive of the confederacy, using it as a symbol like everything from the US Constitution to Jesus to Ruby Ridge and Waco as a symbol for whatever they stand for. The major networks all trotted out a host of neo-confederate far rightists to give them a voice (albeit with enough pr savvy to not say much that was openly racist), and even a few Uncle Ruckus types too. It was sick. If I ever lived in a place where I had ready access to Confederate Flags, I would burn them publicly with frequency and relish.
The Red Next Door
16th April 2010, 22:55
I have a friend who is pro flag confederate, he is in the center and very anti racist . I try to be tolerant minded about, He had told me that. "The only bad idea, they had was slavery. The confederate is about state right. which is good, blah blah blah". What he do not know is that, the whole state right thing was about having their right to keep slaves. Every historical fact i tell him, he see it as commie mumble jumbo.
Martin Blank
17th April 2010, 00:07
There is a sort of Anti-Confederate Day: Juneteenth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneteenth).
x371322
17th April 2010, 00:37
There is a sort of Anti-Confederate Day: Juneteenth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneteenth).
Now that's what we should be celebrating! To think I've never even heard of it.
Burning the confederate flag around here is a sure way to get your tires slashed open.
Ride the bus.
What are they gonna do, slash the bus tyres?
Rastko
19th April 2010, 17:33
If this "Confederate Day" crap is passed into an official holiday, American Revolutionaries, especially but not exclusively in the south, need to get out and protest. Burn Confederate battle flags (be safe guys) pass out literature, explain the truth of history, build class consciousness and smash racism and fascism!
*1. If Confederate day is 26 April (I don't live in USA, not I am either American, so, i'm not sure), then we should make Anti - confederate day (find a better name, plz, for example - Struggle for liberty day or smth like that), should be held day before or after April 26... or maybe May 5, isn't that the date on which Confederates loosed... or maybe, May 13? Really not sure...
*2. No way that they'll make it public holiday. So many democrats in the House and Senate will block that... hey, administration is democrat... no way, until 2013... but, still, we should prepare!
Jimmie Higgins
19th April 2010, 18:38
Yeah, people in California sport the confederate flag too, so it has little to do with support of the confederacy as a political entity or even white "southern heritage". It's only a symbol of white supremacy.
GPDP
19th April 2010, 18:51
Nearly a century and a half later, and they are still as sore about losing the war as ever.
The mythological status that is given to the Confederacy is just insane. I mean, do any of y'all in European countries perform re-enactments of one of your many wars from the past? I can only imagine what a victim of the civil war in Sudan must think when seeing these blowhards re-enacting the bloodiest conflict in American history as if it's some kind of religious mass.
A.R.Amistad
19th April 2010, 20:45
The confederacy is not the heritage of the majority of working southerners. The confederacy was a type of feudal society in which the ruling Planter Class exploited not only black slaves, but also the white sharecroppers. The only people who can claim the Confederacy was part of their "heritage" are a tiny minority of those who are descended from the Planter class. The Confederacy was not founded on any cultural basis: this was and is a myth to get the support of the working classes and to divide them. The Confederacy was a product that was forged by the Planter class for the Planter Class's interest alone. So, no, not "fuck your heritage." Fuck the Planter Elite's heritage. Long live Proletarian heritage!:hammersickle::star3::w00t:
Nearly a century and a half later, and they are still as sore about losing the war as ever.
The mythological status that is given to the Confederacy is just insane. I mean, do any of y'all in European countries perform re-enactments of one of your many wars from the past? I can only imagine what a victim of the civil war in Sudan must think when seeing these blowhards re-enacting the bloodiest conflict in American history as if it's some kind of religious mass.
It's no surprise Americans re-enact the Civil War. Militarism is part of fascism, after all :lol:
Nolan
20th April 2010, 06:43
Ride the bus.
What are they gonna do, slash the bus tyres?
Boy, I live in the hills, here there ain't no public transportation. ;)
Boy, I live in the hills, here there ain't no public transportation. ;)
Don't worry. Melbourne isn't exactly renowned for it's efficient public transport system.
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