"papa smurf philosophy thread"

[papa smurf]

Hi papa smurf wants to smurf you some of his smurfology!

"JUSTICE is the only worship. Love is the only priest. Ignorance is the only slavery. Happiness is the only good. The time to be happy is here. The way to be happy is to make other people happy." - R.G. Ingersoll.

"IT is all very fine to talk about tramps and morality. Six hours of police surveillance (such as I have had), or one brutal rejection from an inn door, change your views upon the subject like a course of lectures. As long as you keep in the upper regions, with all the world bowing to you as you go, social arrangements have a very handsome air; but once get under the wheels and you wish Society were at the devil. I will give most respectable men a fortnight of such a life, and then I will offer then two pence for what remains of their morality." - Robert Louis Stevenson.

"WHEN a firm, decisive spirit is recognized it is curious to see how the space clears around a man and leaves him room and freedom." - John Foster.

[scarletghoul]

You know the Smurfs is fascist, right ? I hear some people saying they're communist, but a closer look reveals a clearly fascistic ideology.

[papa smurf]

papa smurf smurfs that s/goul didn't smurf cartoons. :laugh:

[Axle]

I spy a troll.

[FreeFocus]

You know the Smurfs is fascist, right ? I hear some people saying they're communist, but a closer look reveals a clearly fascistic ideology.

There's no chance in hell that Smurfs as fascist. I think you're just being racist because they are blue, small, and disenfranchised by society..

Smurfs are really apolitical, but when you look at it, communist principles are implemented in Smurf society.

[scarletghoul]

The whole thing is drenched in fascist ideology.

OK, they seem to have a communal economy but thats the only communistic thing about them (apart from the red-clothed and bearded leader). On the other hand the leader is a patriarchal (Papa) figure with unchecked power. Anyway smurf economy clearly wouldnt function outside of cartoon, so I don't think the economy can be seen as the central defining characteristic of Smurfism. On the contrary, to understand the Smurfs we must look at the superstructure, their ideals and social roles.

The normal smurfs are divided into what seem to be predetermined occupations manifest in their very names, their individuality not a human characteristic but the individuality of a particular cog in the machinery of smurf society. Smurfette is the designated female, and doesn't seem to have an occupation or role in society other than being the woman (this has terrible implications). Their language is imbued in references to their Smurf nationality. Gargamel is more or less a stereotype 'evil jew', dark and gangling with a hooked nose, who's intent on eating the smurfs for no apparent reason (iirc) and threatening their way of life. The fact that the smurfs are all of the same distintive colour is significant.

In typical fascistic fantasy, Smurf society is shown as ideal and perfectly functioning. Smurfs of all kinds get along harmoniously, the worker smurfs never challenge the patriarchal leader, the female smurf never questions her role. No one does. This is the fascist ideal, and the fantasy that many fascists apply to the past of their own nation. Fascism has always relied on a romanticised and deluded view of the past as an era of national purity and beauty. Smurf Land is exactly that. The Smurfs function as a great nation united in colour, every smurf knowing his place, small sticks bound together to make a mighty club. The ideal society is threatened by the dark Jew/outsider. But the Smurfs always defeat him, with Papa smurf ultimately taking the role of Hitler.

So yeah, in short, Smurf Land represents the fascist ideal.

[papa smurf]

The discussion is not suppost to be about smurfs, its just a clever commie alias, rather, I wanted to post philosophical ideals and thoughts. That is the title of this section in the forum is it not?

[papa smurf]

I spy a troll.

no, smurf, not troll, sorry I am not a fan of lord of the rings.

[Dimentio]

The whole thing is drenched in fascist ideology.

OK, they seem to have a communal economy but thats the only communistic thing about them (apart from the red-clothed and bearded leader). On the other hand the leader is a patriarchal (Papa) figure with unchecked power. Anyway smurf economy clearly wouldnt function outside of cartoon, so I don't think the economy can be seen as the central defining characteristic of Smurfism. On the contrary, to understand the Smurfs we must look at the superstructure, their ideals and social roles.

The normal smurfs are divided into what seem to be predetermined occupations manifest in their very names, their individuality not a human characteristic but the individuality of a particular cog in the machinery of smurf society. Smurfette is the designated female, and doesn't seem to have an occupation or role in society other than being the woman (this has terrible implications). Their language is imbued in references to their Smurf nationality. Gargamel is more or less a stereotype 'evil jew', dark and gangling with a hooked nose, who's intent on eating the smurfs for no apparent reason (iirc) and threatening their way of life. The fact that the smurfs are all of the same distintive colour is significant.

In typical fascistic fantasy, Smurf society is shown as ideal and perfectly functioning. Smurfs of all kinds get along harmoniously, the worker smurfs never challenge the patriarchal leader, the female smurf never questions her role. No one does. This is the fascist ideal, and the fantasy that many fascists apply to the past of their own nation. Fascism has always relied on a romanticised and deluded view of the past as an era of national purity and beauty. Smurf Land is exactly that. The Smurfs function as a great nation united in colour, every smurf knowing his place, small sticks bound together to make a mighty club. The ideal society is threatened by the dark Jew/outsider. But the Smurfs always defeat him, with Papa smurf ultimately taking the role of Hitler.

So yeah, in short, Smurf Land represents the fascist ideal.

Smurfs are very cute. Remember when I was in the primary school and they used to have all those old French/Belgian comic magazines. Gaston, Spirou, the Smurfs, Asterix, Lucky Luke... wow, how much I love old French comics! It was like a drug.

Don't think the Smurfs are so much meant to be fascistic. Rather, if they are anything, they are utopian socialists.

[Ravachol]

The whole thing is drenched in fascist ideology.

OK, they seem to have a communal economy but thats the only communistic thing about them (apart from the red-clothed and bearded leader).


They don't have a communal economy. If I recall correctly, they have a strong social division of labor and accompanying shops (Baker smurf,etc). The only thing collective about them was that they harvested smurfberries collectively and stored them in a grainery for re-distribution. This would make them closer to Distributism (a socio-economic theory espoused by some Catholic thinkers, Fascists and non-marxist 'socialists') than to communism.

[scarletghoul]

Oh yeah, that's true actually.

[Hit The North]

Moved to chit chat.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Enter thread about Smurfs, leave thread about economics.

[Robocommie]

I smurfed your mother.

The Smurfs are in the Klan. They all wear white hoods, except their leader, who wears red, cause he's the Grand Dragon.

The whole thing is a glorification of pastoralism, living in their little mushroom town as they do, endlessly persecuted by Gargamel, an anti-Semitic allegory for the Zionist urban elite (the city represented by Gargamel's dark castle tower) which seeks to destroy the pastoralist ideal of the Smurfs in pursuit of gold, and profits.