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Die Neue Zeit
9th April 2010, 14:26
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-04-08/hungary-s-bitter-voters-embrace-anti-capitalist-radical-party.html



By Edith Balazs and Zoltan Simon

April 8 (Bloomberg) -- Hungarys Jobbik party, which wants to drop free-market reforms and create armed guards to police the countrys gypsy minority, is enjoying the strongest support for a nationalist bloc since the country abandoned communism.

Jobbik is poised to win 17 percent of the vote in the April 11 election, according to a Median poll published today. That would give it 50 lawmakers in the countrys 386-seat parliament, the most for a nationalist group since the eastern European Union member became a democracy.

Jobbiks rise follows the countrys worst economic contraction in almost two decades and record-high unemployment after the Socialist government was forced to turn to the International Monetary Fund for a loan that came with harsh austerity strings attached. The party, which has existed for five years, has tapped into voter disgruntlement with government cuts and has capitalized on growing resentment against the Roma, or gypsy, population, political scientists say.

A strong showing by an extremist party could negatively impact tourism, the investment environment and even affect risks credit-rating agencies see in Hungary, Gergely Boszormenyi Nagy, a political analyst at Nezopont Intezet in Budapest, said in a phone interview today.

Jeopardize a Strong Government

The ruling Socialist Party, which has privatized key industries during its 12 years in power since 1990, has 17 percent support compared with 60 percent for former premier Viktor Orbans Fidesz party, according to the Median poll. Orban, who has accused the government of lying to disguise the size of the budget deficit, has signaled he will cut taxes and implement other policies to boost economic growth.

Growing support for Jobbik may erode the voter base of Fidesz and jeopardize the formation of a strong government, said Eszter Gargyan, an analyst at Citigroup in Budapest.

Ive always voted for the Socialists, but they left me bitterly disappointed, said Vera Sagvari, 47, a food vendor in Miskolc, 180 kilometers (112 miles) northeast of Budapest. Their promises of jobs, a better life were empty words. I became a Jobbik supporter because we need new answers. Capitalism and foreign investors wont help.

Hungary was the first European nation to seek an IMF-led loan after the credit crisis crippled its exports and choked investment. IMF demands for fiscal discipline exacerbated Hungarys recession and voters are blaming the Socialists, in power since 2002, for reducing state funding in parts of the economy including health care and education in reforms they say aggravated the crisis.

Populist Proposals

Jobbik first rose to prominence after ethnic tensions swelled in counties like Borsod in the northeast, which has Hungarys highest number of welfare recipients and the second- highest jobless rate. Voters in the region, which also has a large number of Roma, are backing Jobbik on promises to end what the party calls Roma crime. Jobbik says it will tackle crime by reviving the gendarmerie, disbanded after World War II for its role in deporting Hungarian Jews.

Among the populist proposals of Jobbik, many are in conflict with free markets and therefore we believe the market reaction to a stronger-than-expected result would be immediately negative, Gargyan said.

Most of Hungarys Roma, estimated at between 2 percent and 7 percent of the countrys 10 million people, live in the poorest areas and endure the highest rates of unemployment. Tension has been on the rise in Hungary, with serial killings that police say may have been racially motivated.

Fed Up

Jobbik in 2007 set up Magyar Garda, a group whose uniformed members marched in areas with large Roma populations under a flag similar to the one used by Hungarys Nazi-allied government in World War II. The group was banned in December 2008 for inciting fear among minorities but continued to hold rallies across the country.

Im fed up with Gypsies, the parasites of the nation, living large on our taxes and stealing everything they can get their hands on, said Janos Szigeti, a retired carpenter, who attended the Jobbik rally in Arnot, 20 kilometers (12 miles) from Miskolc. At least Jobbik has the guts to call things by their names and stop gypsies rampaging across our country.

Ceased to Trust

Jobbik is also campaigning for the re-nationalization of companies sold to foreign investors in the 1990s, raising taxes for multinational companies and banks and barring foreigners from buying land. It blames parties like Fidesz and the Socialists, part of the countrys political landscape since the transition to democracy, for Hungarys economic problems.

Hungarians have ceased to trust the major political parties that have ruined the country, Jobbik Vice President Tamas Sneider said at a rally in the village of Arnot. They have sold the country for 100 billion forint to foreigners. The countrys in a state of complete slavery.

The shift in political taste may just mark a regular sea- change in Hungarys parliamentary landscape, according to some analysts.

Radical forces have gained momentum 15 to 20 years after each regime change in Hungary, said Ervin Csizmadia, a political scientist at the Centre for Fair Political Analysis in Budapest. The regime shifts reflect that people lost confidence and detached themselves from mainstream political parties.

Glenn Beck
10th April 2010, 03:31
These Eastern European neoliberal governments are really falling like dominoes. On the other hand this news really shows the stakes involved in the absence of a radical left political alternative.

Revy
10th April 2010, 05:34
Jobbik is in the same European political group as the BNP, Fiamma Tricolore in Italy, the National Front in France...called the Alliance of European National Movements.

It is really disturbing how these parties are capitalizing on workers' resentment over the EU and the impoverishment caused by capitalism and combining that with xenophobia and oppression against minorities.

A lot of people feel attracted to the "nationalist" feelings of it, when it is in reality something more hideous and ugly than some love of country.

The left needs to take a clear stand and make sure people know what kind of a threat these parties are. The anti-capitalist left needs to organize to counteract the influence of these far-right parties, less mindless bickering and tendency wars, more positive actions that help break ground for revolutionary ideas.

Red Commissar
10th April 2010, 07:42
So what, are these guys like the Arrow Cross's descendants?

At any rate it's hardly surprising. By sufficiently utilizing populist tendencies, dabbling in ethnic and national issues, and taking a petit-bourgeoisie stance against big businesses, these guys can tap into the frustrations of the populace against existing political camps.

We'll see the full extent of this prediction once the elections come around.

Die Neue Zeit
10th April 2010, 08:01
Jobbik is in the same European political group as the BNP, Fiamma Tricolore in Italy, the National Front in France...called the Alliance of European National Movements.

It is really disturbing how these parties are capitalizing on workers' resentment over the EU and the impoverishment caused by capitalism and combining that with xenophobia and oppression against minorities.

A lot of people feel attracted to the "nationalist" feelings of it, when it is in reality something more hideous and ugly than some love of country.

The left needs to take a clear stand and make sure people know what kind of a threat these parties are. The anti-capitalist left needs to organize to counteract the influence of these far-right parties, less mindless bickering and tendency wars, more positive actions that help break ground for revolutionary ideas.

It should be noted that the nationalization proposals are aimed only at foreign owners, not at domestic "patriots" who stab their "fellow" native workers at their backs (even down to triggering strikes over late payment of wages).

AK
10th April 2010, 14:01
This is abosolutely the last thing that I, as a Hungarian (albeit residing in Australia), need; an "anti-capitalist" party - which is in fact ultra-nationalistic capitalist (not saying fascist as the definitons are confusing) and will still benefit the national Bourgeoisie, thereby ensuring the working class will still be worse off and "anti-capitalism" can be called a hypocritical failure.

AK
10th April 2010, 14:08
It should be noted that the nationalization proposals are aimed only at foreign owners, not at domestic "patriots" who stab the native workers at their backs (even down to triggering strikes over late payment of wages).
Good point. I'm guessing that if this government were ever put into power, they would still allow their stay-at-home patriots to invest in foreign markets though.

heiss93
10th April 2010, 17:17
America seems to be unique in that the ultra-nationalist far right does not pretend to be a third position neither socialist nor capitalist, but instead revels and glorifies pure laissez-faire capitalism.

ComradeOm
10th April 2010, 20:27
Decent article here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/08/jobbik-hungary-move-from-fringes) that draws a few wider conclusions as to the rise of the far right throughout Europe

Wanted Man
10th April 2010, 21:13
Decent article here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/08/jobbik-hungary-move-from-fringes) that draws a few wider conclusions as to the rise of the far right throughout Europe

The article already makes a mistake in the first paragraph. Wilders' support in the polls has actually dropped recently, and he now stands at 15.2%. That is still too high, and it still represents gains for him, but it is not an absolute landslide. Where last year's polls gave him a good chance of becoming the next prime minister, it now looks like other parties will be able to form a government.

Wilders' party only participated in two cities, namely the ones where he is known to have the most support, and there he scored his highest numbers: 21.6% in one city, and 16.8% in another.

Their analysis of the Hungarian situation may be good, but their European comparison is shoddy journalism, and they got their numbers wrong, as shown above. Geert Wilders is very difficult to compare to Jobbik, Le Pen, and the Lega Nord.

Glenn Beck
11th April 2010, 06:10
America seems to be unique in that the ultra-nationalist far right does not pretend to be a third position neither socialist nor capitalist, but instead revels and glorifies pure laissez-faire capitalism.

If you mean America in the broad sense then you're right. Pinochet did it before Reagan, after all.

Guerrilla22
11th April 2010, 08:28
There is nothing quite like capitalizing on resentment towards an unpopular minority group for political gains.

Buffalo Souljah
11th April 2010, 08:56
**sigh** Here we go again... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II)

No pasarán
11th April 2010, 10:48
Horrible bunch of fasscist wankers, also have something of a presence in london.

AK
11th April 2010, 11:05
Didn't the NSAP also claim that Germany's problems were caused by "Judeo-Capitalists" and ethnic minorities...

Aesop
12th April 2010, 14:25
Horrible bunch of fasscist wankers, also have something of a presence in london.

Why a presence in London?

No pasarán
12th April 2010, 15:17
Why a presence in London?


Cos a lot of people emigrate to london, belive me, they are active in london

Andropov
12th April 2010, 15:25
Wilders' party only participated in two cities, namely the ones where he is known to have the most support, and there he scored his highest numbers: 21.6% in one city, and 16.8% in another.
Which citys are those?

DreamWeaver
12th April 2010, 15:47
1. Almere, a city numbering 200.000 mostly lowerclass white people (the demographic Wilders seems to be going for).
2. The Hague, the city where our parlement resides, so it is easy for the members of his party who are elected in the city council as well as in the national parlement to serve in both functions. Wilders tries to keep the people involved in his party close and under control, a previous populist party went down to infighting.

Andropov
12th April 2010, 15:55
Does he have much of a presence in Rotterdam?

Sasha
12th April 2010, 16:14
Khad, dont post flame/troll pics in this forum, verbal warning.

Aesop
12th April 2010, 19:34
Cos a lot of people emigrate to london, belive me, they are active in london

I am not disputing the fact with you mate, i am just wondering what benefit would it bring them to operate or have a presence in london. A bit like the BNP going to spain and operating or having a presence there.

Red Commissar
12th April 2010, 20:37
Results from the first round of voting

FIDESZ (Centre Right): 52.73% of the vote, netting 206 chairs
Socialist Party (Centre-Left): 19.3% of the vote, netting 28 chairs. Loss of 162 chairs
JOBBIK (Far right, topic of this thread): 16.67% of the vote, netting 26 chairs.
"Politics can be Different" (Greens): 7.44% netting 5 chairs

No pasarán
12th April 2010, 22:45
I am not disputing the fact with you mate, i am just wondering what benefit would it bring them to operate or have a presence in london. A bit like the BNP going to spain and operating or having a presence there.

I didn't think you were disputing me?? Anyways, they have some links to the BNP apparently... I'll try to source something on it. I'm pretty sure the BNP have a presence in the areas of spain where a lot of Brits holiday. Plus they have links all over europe to other fascists.

No pasarán
12th April 2010, 22:48
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/nov/15/krisztina-morvai-london-conference-ban