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Sasha
8th April 2010, 20:22
So You Want to Get Excommunicated?

How to Stop Child Rapists and Hatemongers from Speaking for You

by Paul Constant (http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Author?oid=17693)


When people ask you about your religion at parties, you refer to yourself as a "recovering Catholic," but you never gave your baptism or confirmation much thought beyond that. Now, though, you've had it. You're tired of waiting for Pope Ratzi to hang up his funny- shaped hat, and you're tired of being associated with the moral monstrosity that is the Catholic Church. You need to excommunicate yourself! It's a relatively easy thing to do, and though the Catholic Church still considers excommunicated people to be Catholics—albeit of the "unforgiven" variety—you can at least take comfort that you've removed yourself as far as humanly possible from an organization you detest.
Here's all you have to do: Send a letter to the parish in which you were baptized. In the letter, open with a statement that you are of sound mind and body. List the places where you were baptized, confirmed, and (if you attended Catholic school) educated. It helps if you have exact dates. Then give the reasons why you're withdrawing from the church. Don't forget to include personal details: If you're gay and out, tell the church. If you're an atheist, be proud. Explain why you don't want to be a member anymore in as much detail as possible.

(http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Author?oid=17693)
According to the information provided by the Atheist Foundation (www.atheistfoundation.org.au/articles/easy-steps-excommunication (http://www.atheistfoundation.org.au/articles/easy-steps-)), the easiest of the nine excommunication canons (we don't recommend most of the others, which include physically attacking the pope or desecrating a host) is canon 1364, section 1, which covers "apostasy, heresy, or schism." In theory, you will be automatically excommunicated if you embrace another religion or belief system such as Islam, Buddhism, Mormonism, or secular humanism. (A great, but lengthy, sample request for Catholic excommunication, including all the relevant Catholic laws, is available for you to modify at www.43things.com/entries/view/4412666 (http://www.43things.com/entries/view/4412666).)
Unfortunately, it might not be that simple: The church is reportedly stingy with its excommunications, and it may take several attempts before it'll go through with it. As always when dealing with cheap customer-service scams, the best advice is to begin politely with a letter and then work your way up to firm, insistent phone calls. And a little public badgering never hurt, either: Forward your correspondence to local news outlets or publish them yourself on a blog. Eventually, the church will understand that you're not going to stop and it'll approve your request, whereupon you will join the proud ranks of the excommunicated, alongside historical figures such as Fidel Castro, Napoleon I, Martin Luther, and every Catholic who practiced Freemasonry during the 18th century. Wash that blood from your hands! constants letter:


Dear Catholic Church: Excommunicate Me

by Paul Constant (http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Author?oid=17693)
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So You Want to Get Excommunicated? (http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/so-you-want-to-get-excommunicated/Content?oid=3800689)
How to Stop Child Rapists and Hatemongers from Speaking for You by Paul Constant
Apr 6, 2010



Bishop Richard Malone
c/o Roman Catholic Diocese of Portland
510 Ocean Avenue, P.O. 11559
Portland, Maine 04104


I am addressing this letter to you because my entire life as a Catholic took place in Maine. I was baptized into the Catholic Church at St. Matthew in Limerick a few weeks after my birth in 1976. And I was confirmed 16 years later at St. Anne's in Gorham.


Even though I have never believed in God or the afterlife or anything else that Catholics profess, I did get confirmed in the church of my own free will, and though every baptized human being is supposedly a "full Catholic" at the moment of baptism, the consensual sacrament of confirmation* supposedly, in the words of the church, "renders the bond with the church more perfect."
My father, Joseph Constant, worked his whole life, adored his wife for 45 years, and loved us no matter what. And I decided when I was 16 that as long as I was living under his roof, I would continue to be a full member of his church. He wanted to meet us again one day in heaven, and he believed that there was only one way to do that: by believing in the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. My confirmation was a tribute to him, but it only went so far: After I struck out on my own, I lived as an atheist.
But I suppose that, technically at least, I'm a Catholic, one of the millions of Catholics whom American bishops profess to lead and, when the church inserts itself into our political process, claim to speak for.
Today, Bishop Malone, I am demanding that you excommunicate me. I cannot in good conscience belong to your church anymore; I do not want to be counted with the 200,000 Catholics in Maine, or the 68,115,001 Catholics in the United States of America, or the 1.1 billion Catholics in the world.
I have been watching the events of the last few weeks with horror. The pope (an ex–Hitler Youth whom your fellow bishops used to refer to, lovingly, as "God's rottweiler") whined during a Palm Sunday homily about what he called "petty gossip." That "petty gossip" is a tsunami of reports of child rape perpetrated by Catholic priests across the globe and attempts by bishops, archbishops, cardinals, and the pope himself to cover up that child rape by moving ordained rapists to new parishes where they could, and did, rape again. That "petty gossip" includes one case in which the pope halted an internal investigation of a Catholic priest in Wisconsin who is alleged to have raped more than 200 deaf boys.
And then, on March 30, Bill Donohue of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights placed an ad in the New York Times dismissively accusing the Times of "looking for dirt" that "occurred a half-century ago" and saying that the church's "pedophilia crisis" has "all along" been a "homosexual crisis." He accused the Times of flogging this story to further a progressive agenda that includes "abortion, gay marriage, and women's ordination."
I demand to be excommunicated because I do not believe women are second-class citizens. I demand to be excommunicated because your missionaries are informing impoverished citizens of third-world countries that birth control is a sin when it is in fact the single most important thing they could do to gain some small amount of control over their economic situation and health. I demand to be excommunicated because your church has become a hate group as virulent as any this world has ever seen, one that is unnaturally obsessed with the sex lives of good men and women across the planet. I demand to be excommunicated because I do not condone child rape or the concealment of child rape.
You might ask, Bishop Malone, what my father will think of all this. Joseph Constant died on August 20, 2009, after a long battle with acute pulmonary fibrosis. The sacrament for the sick gave him great comfort at the end, and I thanked the priest for administering it. But then, at a mass that was dedicated in Joseph's name in September, instead of a homily about how Joseph lived the kind of life that other Catholics should emulate—generous, faithful, good, true—the priest showed a video. You came on the screen that had been set up on the altar (as you did in all the other Catholic churches across Maine that weekend), and my family was forced to watch as you gave a hate-filled lecture about why Maine's pending gay marriage law must not be allowed to come into force, and then you had every church under your control pass the collection plate a second time solely to collect funds to fight marriage equality. (Thanks in large part to the Catholic Church's efforts—efforts that included threats to remove charitable Catholic organizations from the state if the law was approved—gay marriage remains illegal in Maine. You must be so proud.) You took an occasion intended to celebrate my father's life and spoiled it with hate speech.
And so it is with deep personal satisfaction, sir, that I say—and I'll put it so you can understand it—to hell with you, Bishop Malone. To hell with your church. To hell with the pope, especially. If you think the Catholic God actually smiles down on you from heaven for your hatefulness, then to hell with that God, too. I renounce your church, your God, and your traditions. I will not be a part of any organization that welcomes and comforts hatemongers, child rapists, or you.
I demand that you excommunicate me immediately and that you send me confirmation as soon as possible that you have expunged me from the roster of the Catholic Church.
Paul Constant
c/o The Stranger
1535 11th Avenue, Third Floor
Seattle, Washington 98122
* You may wonder why I go on to explain the sacrament of confirmation to a Roman Catholic bishop. This letter is not just for you, Bishop Malone; it's an open letter, published in print and online, and by the time you get your copy in the mail, tens of thousands of people—at least—will have already read it. Some of these other readers will not be Catholic, and consequently, they will not be familiar with this uniquely Catholic sacrament. As I don't want non-Catholic readers to go "confirma-huh?" and turn the page, I thought I would explain it for them. Because I want as many people as possible to read this, and I want them to read it all the way through. I want the whole world to read it. I do not want anyone to ever associate me with the likes of you ever again.



sources: http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/so-you-want-to-get-excommunicated/Content?oid=3800689
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/dear-catholic-church-excommunicate-me/Content?oid=3799091

Revy
9th April 2010, 01:54
I don't see the point. Doesn't requesting an excommunication deprive oneself of the pleasure of being excommunicated? It doesn't really boost atheist street cred...."I was excommunicated.......after I sent a letter requesting it.":rolleyes:

Raúl Duke
9th April 2010, 18:32
I don't see the point...

I was baptized and went to a catholic school for a small bit of my childhood...I don't care about being excommunicated or not.

Sasha
9th April 2010, 19:00
i think the point is that the church claims to speak for all catholics, practising or not.
they artificily inflate their importance and make their bigotry more accaptable by saying they represent you.

MarxSchmarx
10th April 2010, 10:12
^^ It's actually not that hard to be excommunicated.

Canon law 2272 states

Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a5.htm

The phrase "formal cooperation" is interpreted very liberally to include anybody who has ever advocated in favor of abortion rights.

Devrim
10th April 2010, 11:51
^^ It's actually not that hard to be excommunicated.

It is very easy to get excommunicated. For example the 1979 National Abortion Campaign march in London was excommunicated en mass. 'Physical force Irish republicans' were also excommunicated, and also once a swarm of locusts. If you are active in leftist politics you have probably been excommunicated half a dozen times without even knowing it.

Getting excommunicated personally by name is a little more difficult. I have only ever known one person who managed it.

I think the writer of the article is a little obsessed by the Church. The idea that if you are not excommunicated, they in some way represent you, and you are still a Catholic:


When people ask you about your religion at parties, you refer to yourself as a "recovering Catholic," but you never gave your baptism or confirmation much thought beyond that. Now, though, you've had it. You're tired of waiting for Pope Ratzi to hang up his funny- shaped hat, and you're tired of being associated with the moral monstrosity that is the Catholic Church. You need to excommunicate yourself! It's a relatively easy thing to do, and though the Catholic Church still considers excommunicated people to be Catholics—albeit of the "unforgiven" variety—you can at least take comfort that you've removed yourself as far as humanly possible from an organization you detest.

When people ask about my religion I generally tell them I don't believe in God. If pushed about my family background it eventually comes out that there were people amongst my great-grand parents who were Catholics. I was baptised (that is what people did at the time-by the time my younger sister was born, my parents didn't even bother with that), but it doesn't make me in anyway a part of their church. The fact that some man in funny clothes once put water on my head, does not mean that I am any sort of Catholic.

Devrim