Tow man talks about revleft.com hehe

[sunfarstar]

SUNFARSTAR:
REVLEFT.COM difficulty yet? I have found in their forum, they are donations. Is due to spending more and more larger. I would like to ask the comrades here. Why can we not help them? Money is needed for each of us, as long as it is for the revolutionary cause, are possible. I long ago suggested that they come to China Shanghai World Expo sales of books and Che Guevara shirt. Perhaps, you can raise to a lot of money. But no one seems to agree with my point of view. I always think that the spirit of Che Guevara the symbol and means of marketing to young people through the market, is an effective means of education. Why are we not?

REVLEFT.COM遇到困难了吗？我在他们的论坛上发现，他们正在募捐。是由于开支越来越大了。我想问 一下这里的同志们。为何我们不能帮助他们呢？钱，对于我们每个人都是需要的，只要是把它用于革 命的事业，都 是可以的。我在不久以前建议他们来中国上海世博会销售切格瓦拉的书籍和衬衫。也许，可以筹措到 一大笔资金。 但是，似乎没有人赞同我的观点。我一直认为，把切格瓦拉的符号和精神通过市场手段销售给年轻人 ，是一种有效 的教育手段。为何我们不做？
(http://redstomp.org/forums/member.php?3-Reclaimed-Dasein)

[AK]

SUNFARSTAR:
REVLEFT.COM difficulty yet? I have found in their forum, they are donations. Is due to spending more and more larger. I would like to ask the comrades here. Why can we not help them? Money is needed for each of us, as long as it is for the revolutionary cause, are possible. I long ago suggested that they come to China Shanghai World Expo sales of books and Che Guevara shirt. Perhaps, you can raise to a lot of money. But no one seems to agree with my point of view. I always think that the spirit of Che Guevara the symbol and means of marketing to young people through the market, is an effective means of education. Why are we not?

Because selling Che shirts makes us capitalist, and the shirts are made by sweatshop workers :lol:

[The Red Panther Party]

Lets turn a much loved revolutionary leader into a useless consumer product and in doing this kill his revolutionary message.
That a pretty bad idea in my books comrade

[YKTMX]

Lets turn a much loved revolutionary leader into a useless consumer product and in doing this kill his revolutionary message.
That a pretty bad idea in my books comrade

Well, this is only true if one think that the extent of Che's "revolutionary message" was 'don't buy t-shirts'.

The obverse of the capitalist commodification of Che is the petty-bourgeois radical who complains about 'consumerism'.

I think that the proliferation of Che's image is neither a good or a bad thing. I think if the proliferation of that image serves to introduce people to radical ideas or create interest in Che's life, it is a good thing.

[The Red Panther Party]

Your in the SWP, you would not care if someone wrote a book on che being a pedophile and serial killer
Or do you trotskyites still say che had a book on permanent revolution on him when he was captured thus making him a idealistic trot tut tut tut (shakes head)

[YKTMX]

Your in the SWP, you would not care if someone wrote a book on che being a pedophile and serial killer
Or do you trotskyites still say che had a book on permanent revolution on him when he was captured thus making him a idealistic trot tut tut tut (shakes head)

Fuck off.

[The Red Panther Party]

Fuck off.

shakes head again lol

im just joshing you

[YKTMX]

shakes head again lol

im just joshing you

Yeah? Me too.

How funny are we?

[The Red Panther Party]

Yeah? Me too.

How funny are we?

seeing as your being a wanker i take it back, im not joking you disgusting counter revolutionary trot :)
No im just joshing really .....

[AK]

Your in the SWP, you would not care if someone wrote a book on che being a pedophile and serial killer
Or do you trotskyites still say che had a book on permanent revolution on him when he was captured thus making him a idealistic trot tut tut tut (shakes head)


seeing as your being a wanker i take it back, im not joking you disgusting counter revolutionary trot :)
No im just joshing really .....

Sectarian asshole.
You should stop derailing the thread with your shitty immature trolling.

[Glenn Beck]

top notch, folks

[The Red Panther Party]

Sectarian asshole.
You should stop derailing the thread with your shitty immature trolling.

says an honourary member :)

[scarletghoul]

Alpha and YKTMX stop flaming. Anyway

Lets turn a much loved revolutionary leader into a useless consumer product and in doing this kill his revolutionary message.
That a pretty bad idea in my books comrade
I know what you mean but che has already been commodified long ago. I think its alright for revolutionary organisations to use his iconic image if its to further the revolution... by educating people of who che really was, those shirts cease to be 'useless consumer products' and become revolutionary propaganda.


REVLEFT.COM difficulty yet? I have found in their forum, they are donations. Is due to spending more and more larger. I would like to ask the comrades here. Why can we not help them? Money is needed for each of us, as long as it is for the revolutionary cause, are possible. I long ago suggested that they come to China Shanghai World Expo sales of books and Che Guevara shirt. Perhaps, you can raise to a lot of money. But no one seems to agree with my point of view. I always think that the spirit of Che Guevara the symbol and means of marketing to young people through the market, is an effective means of education. Why are we not?I don't think RevLeft has anyone who could go to Shanghai World Expo. But I agree with your general idea, that revolutionary organisations should make more use of popular culture and fashion such as Che Guevara, as a way to reach the people, especially the youth.

[The Red Panther Party]

anyway this thread in politics?