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Stranger Than Paradise
4th April 2010, 17:50
Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8602371.stm)


A key Conservative has been recorded suggesting people who run bed and breakfasts in their homes should have the right to reject homosexual guests.
But shadow home secretary Chris Grayling said hotels should not be allowed to discriminate in that way.

Labour and the Lib Dems said the Tories would allow discrimination "to thrive".

Mr Grayling later said he was looking at being "sensitive to the genuinely held principles of faith groups" but was not seeking a change in the law.
The secret recording has been published on the Observer newspaper's website.

The BBC's political correspondent Norman Smith said the stance taken by Mr Grayling, MP for Epsom and Ewell, "put him at odds with the law".

Mr Grayling, MP for Epsom and Ewell, made his comments after a speech at the Centre for Policy Studies in London on Wednesday.
He was at the think tank to talk on the subject of "A Conservative Home Office."

During the recording, Mr Grayling is heard responding to a question from the audience about civil liberties. He said: "I think we need to allow people to have their own consciences.

"I personally always took the view that... if you look at the case of 'Should a Christian hotel owner have the right to exclude a gay couple from their hotel?'

"I took the view that if it's a question of somebody who's doing a B&B in their own home, that individual should have the right to decide who does and who doesn't come into their own home.

"If they are running a hotel on the High Street, I really don't think that it is right in this day and age that a gay couple should walk into a hotel and be turned away because they are a gay couple, and I think that is where the dividing line comes."

The part where he says that he thinks it's on a high street because "in this day and age" we need to accept this is particularly memorable. "In this day and age" in other words is we can't say these things publicly because people will look at us weird.

<Insert Username Here>
4th April 2010, 18:34
I think if I was gay I wouldn't sleep so easy in a homophobic person's house so not really a problem anyway.

Sasha
4th April 2010, 18:48
i would have sex on the breakfast table...

SamB
5th April 2010, 18:31
Someone kills themself the public doesn't bat an eyelid someone gets turned away from a B &B and everyone goes crazy?
All in all this proved what everyone knew anyway..

Il Medico
5th April 2010, 22:12
Someone kills themself the public doesn't bat an eyelid someone gets turned away from a B &B and everyone goes crazy?
All in all this proved what everyone knew anyway..
I know right? Cuz, y'know why should those fine christian B&B owner have to allow those filthy and sinful gay folk into their home!?! I mean they might kiss or even dare I say, have sex on the breakfast table and unleash the hounds of Satan upon our poor innocent christian B&B owners and their fine home. :rolleyes:

Listen, kid. If you really think that a government trying to pass laws that make it easier to discriminate against queers is no big deal, then you should do the following:
1. Fuck off.
2. Find another forum.

Thanks,
The Doctor.

h0m0revolutionary
5th April 2010, 23:11
I think if I was gay I wouldn't sleep so easy in a homophobic person's house so not really a problem anyway.

No actually it is a problem.
There is no requirement for owners of B&B's to have on their reception desk a sign stating their stance on homosexual couples sleeping in their establishment - the only way one would find out if they're homophobic is when you're denied access to that service.

Why you don't find it a problem that homosexual couples should be put through that scenario is beyond me.

This isn't just an example of endemic Tory homophobia, it's an example of a potential up-and-coming government that is more than prepared to attack LGBTQ gains. Queers be prepared to get on the defensive..



Someone kills themself the public doesn't bat an eyelid someone gets turned away from a B &B and everyone goes crazy?
All in all this proved what everyone knew anyway..

Who killed themselves? 0_o
Also as far as I know nobody actually got turned away yesterday, read the news story ;)

Dooga Aetrus Blackrazor
7th April 2010, 06:51
To be fair, the fact that "worse things happen" or "there are more important problems" are true doesn't mean other issues aren't worth talking about.

The tactic of having people try to "focus on what's important" causes debate and allows the elite to stall. It's like the "be happy with what you have because other people have it worse." These sayings, while true, are all things that try to keep the proletariat in check.

Also, society not carrying about the mentally ill is nothing new. Now if someone kills themselves because they weren't aloud to turn away gays from a B&B... that would get some serious attention.