View Full Version : Bill O'Reilly Exposes Glenn Beck On Communism????
The Vegan Marxist
4th April 2010, 09:31
I can't believe I'm saying this, to an extent, but go Bill O'Reilly!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvtXvlBCwrM&playnext_from=TL&videos=91Z_eWQHjQw&feature=grec
Stranger Than Paradise
4th April 2010, 09:40
Wow. Beck and O'reilly together. This is too much delusion, distortion and fabrication for one person to take.
Sasha
4th April 2010, 10:01
batshit crazy tells complete batshit crazy that he is batshitcrazy....
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Dimentio
4th April 2010, 10:10
I think that the conservative establishment in FOX are a bit nervous about the Tea Party Movement and therefore engineers a meeting where Glenn Beck is scolded by Bill O'Reilly. This is all to try to calm down the Tea Party Movement, where some groups have become more militant recently. It is naïve to assume that anything they say is genuine, rather it is an attempt to moderate certain tendencies.
Because, obviously Glenn Beck - despite being reminiscent of "Billy the Bully from primary" - is not stupid. If he was stupid, he wouldn't have that work, right? Neither is Bill O'Reilly. So we must assume that they rather than acting as individuals in the context of their opinionisation are acting as "opinion products" which are engineered in order to canalise the minds of the audience into certain thinking patterns.
By the way Psycho. That gif image is disturbing me. I cannot stop watching it, even though it grosses me out. :P
The Vegan Marxist
4th April 2010, 10:19
I think that the conservative establishment in FOX are a bit nervous about the Tea Party Movement and therefore engineers a meeting where Glenn Beck is scolded by Bill O'Reilly. This is all to try to calm down the Tea Party Movement, where some groups have become more militant recently. It is naïve to assume that anything they say is genuine, rather it is an attempt to moderate certain tendencies.
Because, obviously Glenn Beck - despite being reminiscent of "Billy the Bully from primary" - is not stupid. If he was stupid, he wouldn't have that work, right? Neither is Bill O'Reilly. So we must assume that they rather than acting as individuals in the context of their opinionisation are acting as "opinion products" which are engineered in order to canalise the minds of the audience into certain thinking patterns.
By the way Psycho. That gif image is disturbing me. I cannot stop watching it, even though it grosses me out. :P
I don't think we should take it so far as if it was a conspiracy going on in Fox News, Dimentio. To me, it simply shows us that, despite the fact that Fox News has been a threat to any leftist, whether it be Communists, Socialists, Anarchists, Progressives, & even Liberals, it just shows us how far Beck has made himself out as something different of a threat to us. He's created his own cult practically with the 9/12'ers & the Tea Baggers. While Fox News is still distorting news, Beck is distorting the entire political spectrum & is bringing people along with him to a militant stand off against anyone they consider as a progressive. Which, of course, deals greatly with Communists & sympathizers to Communism.
Stranger Than Paradise
4th April 2010, 12:14
I wouldn't give them that much credit Dimentio. I think they are actually that delusional and devoid of reality that they actually believe what they are saying.
Crusade
4th April 2010, 12:35
Glenn Beck is so psychotic he makes O'reilly look like a moderate.
bcbm
4th April 2010, 19:14
I wouldn't give them that much credit Dimentio. I think they are actually that delusional and devoid of reality that they actually believe what they are saying.
i think this is a very dangerous thing to assume about one's enemies. rush limbaugh, for example, comes off like a raving moron but he also has read gramsci and other marxist theorists and arguably applies their ideas better than the left has. i think beck knows exactly what he is doing.
Stranger Than Paradise
4th April 2010, 19:55
i think this is a very dangerous thing to assume about one's enemies. rush limbaugh, for example, comes off like a raving moron but he also has read gramsci and other marxist theorists and arguably applies their ideas better than the left has. i think beck knows exactly what he is doing.
Limbaugh I can understand, even O'reilly to some extent because you can see that he is very calculated and clever in his strategy for cutting off guests but I am not going to accept that Glenn Beck is actually a very clever person. If so why did he embarrass himself on O'reilly's show, that couldn't have been planned or thought out. On that clip he gets asked where he heard Michelle Obama supported this Von Jones character and he blurts out "in a paper". O'reilly asks which paper, he says "I don't know". How is this making him look anything other than stupid? And if he wasn't an idiot he would be smart enough to have points laid out that he wanted to make which he could back up.
bcbm
4th April 2010, 20:02
Limbaugh I can understand, even O'reilly to some extent because you can see that he is very calculated and clever in his strategy for cutting off guests but I am not going to accept that Glenn Beck is actually a very clever person. If so why did he embarrass himself on O'reilly's show, that couldn't have been planned or thought out. On that clip he gets asked where he heard Michelle Obama supported this Von Jones character and he blurts out "in a paper". O'reilly asks which paper, he says "I don't know". How is this making him look anything other than stupid? And if he wasn't an idiot he would be smart enough to have points laid out that he wanted to make which he could back up.
sometimes looking stupid is the best way to further your goals. i thought where he remembered reading it was more interesting than anything else- the huffington post or "some liberal blog." beck probably spends more time analyzing liberals/leftists than they spend analyzing him, and i think that is telling and something we can see in a fair number of the successful conservatives.
Alaric
4th April 2010, 20:21
Witch hunting bullshit.
According to Jones he signed a petition that didn't question whether Osama bin Ladin carried out 9/11 but merely expressed concern at how some parts of the investigation went. He's publicly disavowed inside job theories. Calling Republicans assholes is just being honest.
Obviously the man is not Marxist.
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The man is a fucking AVOWED CAPITALIST AND THEY TRY TO ATTACH HIM TO US?
God mainstream media is a farce.
The Douche
4th April 2010, 20:41
Witch hunting bullshit.
According to Jones he signed a petition that didn't question whether Osama bin Ladin carried out 9/11 but merely expressed concern at how some parts of the investigation went. He's publicly disavowed inside job theories. Calling Republicans assholes is just being honest.
Obviously the man is not Marxist.
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We are entering an era during which our very survival will demand invention and innovation on a scale never before seen in the history of human civilization. Only the business community has the requisite skills, experience, and capital to meet that need. On that score, neither government nor the nonprofit and voluntary sectors can compete, not even remotely.
So in the end, our success and survival as a species are largely and directly tied to the new eco-entrepreneurs—and the success and survival of their enterprises. Since almost all of the needed eco-technologies are likely to come from the private sector, civic leaders and voters should do all that can be done to help green business leaders succeed. That means, in large part, electing leaders who will pass bills to aid them. We cannot realistically proceed without a strong alliance between the best of the business world—and everyone else."
The man is a fucking AVOWED CAPITALIST AND THEY TRY TO ATTACH HIM TO US?
God mainstream media is a farce.
He was involved in some communist groups incluiding STORM (standing together to organize a revolutionary movement) and I think the RCP. He dropped out of the left and became a reformist.
black magick hustla
4th April 2010, 20:56
i think glenn beck is well aware that he is saying bullshit. he just found a very good way to make money. its more itneresting to live in a world of communist jewish conspirationist and reptoid progressives than just hard cold, impersonal, capitalist crisis, and glenn beck sells that world.
black magick hustla
4th April 2010, 20:58
there is a tendency to see mainstream media comentators as dumb, especially when they are conservative. a lot of this folks graduated from harvard and other big schools and read a lot of the shit we have read. i just think that sometimes appearing stupid is more marketable
Alaric
4th April 2010, 21:33
He was involved in some communist groups incluiding STORM (standing together to organize a revolutionary movement) and I think the RCP. He dropped out of the left and became a reformist.
Exactly.
Anyone here ever go to the Communist bookstore of the RCP in Los Angeles? They're a weird group, but they are committed to rallying the working class and thus allies.
Invincible Summer
4th April 2010, 21:42
At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy loon, do you think that Glenn Beck is paid to play this ridiculous position in order to make people were once considered "radically conservative" - i.e. Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Lou Dobbs, etc - seem "normative" and "okay?"
Comrade Gwydion
4th April 2010, 21:53
At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy loon, do you think that Glenn Beck is paid to play this ridiculous position in order to make people were once considered "radically conservative" - i.e. Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Lou Dobbs, etc - seem "normative" and "okay?"
Could very well be.
But still, even though playing a 'ridiculous position', he apperantly has a large enough fanbase of people who agree with him.
And one thing that just freaked my mind...
around 1.35.... Did they really, actually, on national television, in the subtitles, announce Van Jones (or what the guy's name is) as a Czar....:confused: I mean.... I knew that the Tea-Bagger were that dumb, but this... this is pure... I mean. Wow.
Insanity!
Robocommie
5th April 2010, 00:29
BCBM: I think Glenn Beck knows exactly what he is doing.
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Roffles.
In seriousness though, I think Glenn Beck is a showman. I don't think he's got any principles at all except profit, and ratings mean profit in show business. There was an interview he gave a while back where he talked about how he thought global warming was a problem, and he switched all the bulbs in his house to power saving bulbs - and this is the guy who on his TV show calls global warming bullshit.
I think he's pretty clever, but I think he's a showman.
FreeFocus
5th April 2010, 00:34
Good grief, fuck these idiots. :mad: It was a little humorous but after a little bit all I could imagine is someone punching their face into pavement for their idiocy.
black magick hustla
5th April 2010, 01:42
glenn beck was some dropout dj and an alcoholic who didnt give a shit about politics. he has nothing to do with politics except that he is an entertaining showman because he has craaaaaaazy stories
Red Commissar
5th April 2010, 02:11
Interesting. Then again Billo didn't fall in line with the rest of the nutjobs during the birther nonsense.
The uploader's comment is funny too,
I am calling for all Conservatives to ABANDON the Bill O' Reilly show, HE IS A LIAR. His behavior tonight was disgraceful and treasonous to the Conservative, anti-Communist movement in this country. He lied to the entire nation tonight in my opinion and enough is enough...
American blood has been spilled all over the globe to fight the spread of communism and I could not believe my ears when I heard this stooge say the words "Communism is not a Threat to us anymore". This comment also left Glenn Beck astonished.
'murica.
Robocommie
5th April 2010, 02:46
Haha, John Birchers are MAD. Not even reruns of Ozzie & Harriet will make it up to them now.
cb9's_unity
5th April 2010, 03:15
Anyone who thinks Glenn Beck is a total moron needs to actually sit down and watch his show. However before watching his show you have pretend your someone who has almost no knowledge of history and a wildly vague and inaccurate view of the political spectrum. Once you've done this its easy to understand how what he says could bring your average conservative or even dumb 'moderate' to be horrified by the oncoming commie/anarchist/socialist/progressive conspiratorial revolution.
He is an absolute master at playing his audience (which is the ignorant American with little political knowledge).
Red Commissar
5th April 2010, 03:23
Glenn Beck is an act and a businessman. He knows what viewers want to see, he knows what scares them, and he makes money off it. He panders and makes himself rich from it. He adjusts himself to what ever the winds are blowing. I recall seeing some videos from him in the 1990s and it showed as much.
That being said, this video's "meeting of the minds" is amusing to say the least.
And one thing that just freaked my mind...
around 1.35.... Did they really, actually, on national television, in the subtitles, announce Van Jones (or what the guy's name is) as a Czar....:confused: I mean.... I knew that the Tea-Bagger were that dumb, but this... this is pure... I mean. Wow.
Insanity!
There is a contextual point you may not be aware of, which is the American use of the word "czar". I quote from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czar_(political_term)):
Czar or tsar is an informal title for certain high-level officials in the United States and United Kingdom. Political czars can run or organize governmental departments, and may devote their expertise to a single area of work. The "czars" have various official titles such as adviser, director, administrator, or diplomatic envoy, but such titles are often quite long or awkward sounding.
Of course, they may have just used the particular word to make the "people that surround Obama" appear more communist.
Mumbles
5th April 2010, 05:00
Was the pictures of the people listed as Czars just a list of people Obama has talked to? Or are those people with any power at all?
Because I would figure Teabaggers would list any and all people that weren't easily disprovable as czars as czars. But then again, I may just not know who the hell they are.
Red Commissar
5th April 2010, 05:21
Was the pictures of the people listed as Czars just a list of people Obama has talked to? Or are those people with any power at all?
Because I would figure Teabaggers would list any and all people that weren't easily disprovable as czars as czars. But then again, I may just not know who the hell they are.
The term "czars" refers to a policy-maker that the president appoints to oversee and accordingly adjust the activities of a executive department on behalf of the president.
The term I only used to see refer to the Drug Czars, particularly with the War on Drugs, but the expanded it to cover the various policy makers Obama brought in to help him with oversight of certain parts of the executive branch.
The tea baggers see them as a communist oligarchy with Obama, undermining Congress and the constitution, etc. Fact is presidents have always relied on these types because with the size of the executive branch nowadays, it's impossible for them to micromanage by themselves. I have my own reservations against it, but the tea baggers are just acting like morons with it.
Robocommie
5th April 2010, 05:56
The term "czars" refers to a policy-maker that the president appoints to oversee and accordingly adjust the activities of a executive department on behalf of the president.
The term I only used to see refer to the Drug Czars, particularly with the War on Drugs, but the expanded it to cover the various policy makers Obama brought in to help him with oversight of certain parts of the executive branch.
Not just Obama, Bush II appointed a lot of these kinds of people as well. But we can thank the corporate media for this "czar" nonsense, because like you said, it used to just refer to the Drug Czars, but the fucking media liked the ring of it, latched onto it, and now apply it to anyone and everyone.
What I think is funny is the way teabaggers freak out, "Zomg, why are we appointing Czars? We fought the Revolushun to get rid of kings!" Not realizing or understanding that "czar" is just a damn nickname, not a title.
Red Commissar
5th April 2010, 06:11
Not just Obama, Bush II appointed a lot of these kinds of people as well. But we can thank the corporate media for this "czar" nonsense, because like you said, it used to just refer to the Drug Czars, but the fucking media liked the ring of it, latched onto it, and now apply it to anyone and everyone.
What I think is funny is the way teabaggers freak out, "Zomg, why are we appointing Czars? We fought the Revolushun to get rid of kings!" Not realizing or understanding that "czar" is just a damn nickname, not a title.
Well you know, if Americans had a good handling on politics and civics, we wouldn't be seeing things like the Tea Party. It's funny seeing them try to work out conspiracy theories out of these things.
H-D_S7WOnjg
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Stranger Than Paradise
5th April 2010, 13:57
O'reilly was laughing at Beck on his show for a lack of crediblity. I don't all my enemies are idiots for thinking the things they do. That is naive and it is clear with all reactionaries that there is a hidden agenda which upholds the values and ideas of the Capitalist class. Glenn Beck however is simply an idiot.
Dimentio
5th April 2010, 14:27
I don't think we should take it so far as if it was a conspiracy going on in Fox News, Dimentio. To me, it simply shows us that, despite the fact that Fox News has been a threat to any leftist, whether it be Communists, Socialists, Anarchists, Progressives, & even Liberals, it just shows us how far Beck has made himself out as something different of a threat to us. He's created his own cult practically with the 9/12'ers & the Tea Baggers. While Fox News is still distorting news, Beck is distorting the entire political spectrum & is bringing people along with him to a militant stand off against anyone they consider as a progressive. Which, of course, deals greatly with Communists & sympathizers to Communism.
It isn't a conspiracy. All commercial news channels do so (and to an extent, all public channels too). Their ideologists are not intellectuals per se, but propagandists who want to establish a public discourse where a unified worldview is established by the debate between individuals who might have/been given slightly different opinions.
FOX perhaps want to cool down the emotions they have generated by Beck's hysteria by having O´Reilly lecturing Beck in public. The same reason why they have Hannity and colmes to show that Democrats are emasculated geeks while Republicans are manly superheroes. Al Franken have exposed their entire system in his book "Lies, and the lying liars who tell them".
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