First International in New York and Philadelphia

[RED DAVE]

In 1872, the First International was relocated to New York, and it was dissolved four years later, in 1876, in Philadelphia. Does anyone have any sources, especially online for this period?

RED DAVE

[Jacobinist]

http://www.marxists.org/glossary/orgs/f/i.htm#first-international

and

http://www.marxists.org/archive/steklov/history-first-international/index.htm

[RED DAVE]

Thanx, J. This is great.

I would also like to get a line on touristy stuff*, like where their headquarters was located.

*In New York, I can show you the table at Yonah Shimmel's knishery, where, allegedly, Trotsky ate.

RED DAVE

[Jacobinist]

No problem Red. Funny thing you mention Trotsky in NYC. I've been to the home where he both lived and was assasinated in Mexico City. Its currently a museum and I highly recommend everyone go there at least once.

[bailey_187]

Sorry Red Dave, this is of no use to organising workers struggles today. Do the BA strikers care about an internations in the 19th century? (what Jimmie Higins told me)

[RED DAVE]

No problem Red. Funny thing you mention Trotsky in NYC. I've been to the home where he both lived and was assasinated in Mexico City. Its currently a museum and I highly recommend everyone go there at least once.I spent a fair amount of time with Harold Robbins, who was the head of Trotsky's bodyguard. He said the assassination had unhinged Sylvia Ageloff (she appears in Norman Mailer's novel Barbary Shore), and he himself had never quite recovered from it.

RED DAVE

[S.Artesian]

I spent a fair amount of time with Harold Robbins, who was the head of Trotsky's bodyguard. He said the assassination had unhinged Sylvia Ageloff (she appears in Norman Mailer's novel Barbary Shore), and he himself had never quite recovered from it.

RED DAVE

I met Robbins myself about 37 years ago, at his home in Brooklyn. At that time, I think he was associated with the POT in the SWP. Anyway, interesting conversation. Yeah, I can imagine, tough thing to get over--particularly as he was captain of the guard that day.

Anyway re the 1st International, you might want to contact Mark Lause-- professor of American History in Cinc. OH-- as he has focused on US socialist and working class movements in the 19th century.

[syndicat]

the international was trasnferred to a German immigrant in New York, FA Sorge, who was a marx disciple. except this guy was a rank sexist. he expelled a section of the international in New York (section 12) for advocating equality of the sexes. this is discussed in Dolores Hayden's book "The Grand Domestic Revolution".

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Sorry Red Dave, this is of no use to organising workers struggles today. Do the BA strikers care about an internations in the 19th century? (what Jimmie Higins told me)

:confused: When did he say it was? I thought this thread was mainly about clearing up a hiostorical point that eluded him.

[RED DAVE]

I think, I hope, bailey_187 was being ironic.

RED DAVE