Always pisses me off

[SouthernBelle82]

So I don't really have anywhere to put this so I hope this is okay. I always hate when I tell people my political ideology and they tell me to leave. I have every right to live wherever I want. Especially since my ancestors are Cherokee and I am related through marriage down the line to Ben Franklin. It always pisses me off. How do you deal with it?

[Invincible Summer]

Uh well, what exactly is your ideology? Who tells you to leave? Leave to where?

[#FF0000]

Uh well, what exactly is your ideology? Who tells you to leave? Leave to where?

She's a communist you silly.

[Invincible Summer]

She's a communist you silly.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not :blushing:

If she's restricted then obviously something is "wrong" with her ideology, therefore it's probably not communism :p

[SouthernBelle82]

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not :blushing:

If she's restricted then obviously something is "wrong"

When I first joined I was a Democratic Socialist so one day I logged in and was restricted. I talked to a mod about it recently and they said they were going through some site stuff so they haven't gotten around to it. And as far as my comment I just had some right wing boob on Youtube tell me to leave the country and I shouldn't be an American blah blah blah. All I tell them is that I was born here, my family is here, I have ancestors who are Cherokee and through marriage on down the line I'm related to Ben Franklin and we live everywhere and always have and always will.

[syndicat]

the way i respond to that sort of thing is to point out that every citizen has the right to propose changes in the structure of the country. the people have the ultimate right to change the institutions of the country, according to the Declaration of Independence. Democracy implies consent of the governed. and that implies the right of people to agitate and talk to others if they think the institutions should be changed.

[SouthernBelle82]

the way i respond to that sort of thing is to point out that every citizen has the right to propose changes in the structure of the country. the people have the ultimate right to change the institutions of the country, according to the Declaration of Independence. Democracy implies consent of the governed. and that implies the right of people to agitate and talk to others if they think the institutions should be changed.

Well that's a good point and all but the Declaration of Independence isn't law. So it doesn't really do anything but words on a page and intent. It's just so annoying that people always have this arrogance to tell me to leave my own country, my family, my life. That's just fascism.

[Scary Monster]

Well that's a good point and all but the Declaration of Independence isn't law. So it doesn't really do anything but words on a page and intent. It's just so annoying that people always have this arrogance to tell me to leave my own country, my family, my life. That's just fascism.

Just laugh at those ignorant airheads. These would be the same type of people at the beginning of the 20th century that would say, "oh, you and your children don't like working 16 hours for a few pennies a day? Then leave the country, traitor!!" :lol:

[ZombieGrits]

I just had some right wing boob on Youtube tell me to leave the country and I shouldn't be an American blah blah blah.

The way I see it, whenever someone makes a comment that stupid, you have a blank check to do whatever you like, be it ignore them, verbally demolish them (if youre some kinda rhetoric-jesus), or my personal favorite, the ad-hominem: "Fuck off, you goddamn fascist!" :D

[Drace]

Those idiots are everywhere. Use big words and they go away :)

I recently even had these idiots go through my youtube profile to look for something they can attack me on.
Heres what a guy actually gave me as a response when we were discussing the Constitution. :rolleyes:

"Primitive document? I see you have an anarchy video on your YouTube page. You also have 113,000 video views in 2 1/2 weeks. That's 8,000 a day. You wouldn't be a boiler room troll posing as an anarchist to disrupt YouTube for a paranoid government would you?"

I lol'd.

[GPDP]

And as far as my comment I just had some right wing boob on Youtube

There's your problem. YouTube is a magnet for ignorant idiots and trolls.

[Richard Nixon]

Why do my conservative bretheran have to embarass us? :(

Just tell them "Have you read the First Amendment? My ideology does not equate treason". If they're conservative than they will certainly look for whatever the Constitution says on a matter. Or maybe you should move to a more enlightened part of the Union-perhaps sunny California over here although than you'll have to deal with various other problems. :p

[SouthernBelle82]

Just laugh at those ignorant airheads. These would be the same type of people at the beginning of the 20th century that would say, "oh, you and your children don't like working 16 hours for a few pennies a day? Then leave the country, traitor!!" :lol:

Oh of course. I wouldn't be surprised either. It's just so lame. Of course during the Bush administration they always said "love it or leave it" and remember what happened with the Dixie Chicks? Ugh. Of course now that it's them protesting and all that they're patriots and it's people like me who have to leave. :rolleyes:

[SouthernBelle82]

Why do my conservative bretheran have to embarass us? :(

Just tell them "Have you read the First Amendment? My ideology does not equate treason". If they're conservative than they will certainly look for whatever the Constitution says on a matter. Or maybe you should move to a more enlightened part of the Union-perhaps sunny California over here although than you'll have to deal with various other problems. :p

I wish I could have given you some positive points. That's what I mentioned. They're just hypocrites and fascists and aren't for the Constitution at all. They probably don't even know what it says much less what it means. Too bad for them I do since I study it with my major. Even studying criminal law now. Well I enjoy where I live. It's just people on the internet. Only one conservative I know in person has ever really insulted me. He called me a terrorist supporter because I watch and support Al Jazeera. :rolleyes: I never was ever rude to this person or anything but even went out of my way to make sure I never hurt his feelings. Of course on Youtube with people I don't know if they say something that's stupid I'll call them a dumbass but I've had people call me all sorts of shit over the years. Over all I've learned to ignore people who I don't know. It's just a lame response and pisses me off. Oh and I like where I live because we don't have to worry about flooding, earthquakes, snow storms and things like that. Tornadoes some areas you do have to worry about like the middle part of the state but where I live nah. We did have a very tiny earthquake once and that freaked me out. I thought my bed was posessed! Lol. Oh and on edit I have no idea if they are conservative. They're probably more libertarian since they support the so-called "tea party" and those guys can be assholes.

[mikelepore]

SouthernBelle82, You have more of a reason to ridicule them than they have to ridicule you. They think that human beings shouldn't think for themselves, but should automatically support the institutions of the society they were born into. If this were the year 1850 they would believe in slavery. If this were 1700 they would believe in monarchy. If this were Rome in 30 AD they would loudly swear that the emperor is a god. And they're making fun of you? You're actually thinking through things, and they are responding as automatically as a hive of ants.

[Scary Monster]

Oh of course. I wouldn't be surprised either. It's just so lame. Of course during the Bush administration they always said "love it or leave it" and remember what happened with the Dixie Chicks? Ugh. Of course now that it's them protesting and all that they're patriots and it's people like me who have to leave. :rolleyes:

:lol: Yeah exactly. Thats a fine example of them having shit for brains. Although, i guess what patriotism means (to them) is blindly opposing communism. So i think thats what explains them being hypocrites. Obama is moronically labeled as socialist, so all of a sudden, now they are completely against government.

Scary:
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http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g75/damn_dirty_commie/3925895557_98061fe766.jpg

[SouthernBelle82]

SouthernBelle82, You have more of a reason to ridicule them than they have to ridicule you. They think that human beings shouldn't think for themselves, but should automatically support the institutions of the society they were born into. If this were the year 1850 they would believe in slavery. If this were 1700 they would believe in monarchy. If this were Rome in 30 AD they would loudly swear that the emperor is a god. And they're making fun of you? You're actually thinking through things, and they are responding as automatically as a hive of ants.

Oh so true! But something funny is for some reason the Dixie Chicks came up and we talked about them and how their sales have gone down etc. and I for some reason mentioned I don't follow them anymore because I'm into K-pop music now days and we actually found common ground with Asian entertainment lol.

[mikelepore]

Let us recognize the historical roles of the political right and left.

In each historical age, some people make new suggestions that will eventually come to be recognized almost universally as common sense, but in their own time the people making these suggestions are widely considered troublemakers, crackpots, dreamers, etc. That is the political left.

There are also many people who oppose new ideas primarily because the ideas are unfamiliar, not in line with their upbringing and habits, although they make a slight effort to invoke what they claim to be actual reasons. That is the political right.

For example, consider the 19th century Marxist proposal that all children should be allowed to attend public schools. In those days, if you said that you agreed with that proposal to have public schools, then most people would call you a fanatic, insurrectionist, traitor, lunatic, liable to incite a riot, etc. With the passage of sufficient time, the "radical" idea became recognized to be a "normal" idea.

No matter what the progressive proposal was, whether it was to replace monarchy by a republic, to abolish slavery, to legalize the organization of labor unions, to give voting rights to women, to support the conservation of natural resources, the "insurgents" or "reds" suggested it first, and the conservatives opposed it and ridiculed it. Looking back fifty years or a hundred years later, the "crank" and "kook" proposal is recognized generally as common sense.

Whatever the new idea has been, the conservatives automatically said "no." No, they didn't want black people to be permitted to sit in restaurants, they didn't want women to work in "men's" careers like engineering or medicine, they didn't want to permit the display of the "obscene" images produced by Michelangelo and da Vinci, they didn't want seat belts to be installed in cars, they didn't want the recycling of bottles and cans. You name it, if any idea is progressive and new, then they automatically said "no." Historically, that is exactly who and what every conservative movement is: it is nothing but the automatically-say-no-to-any-new-idea reflex.

The left wing is the source of the apparently "wild" and "fanatical" ideas that everyone's great-grandchildren will later accept with the casual recognition, "of course, that's the standard procedure, no doubt about it."

A day will come when people will live in a classless world. A socialist economic system will be in operation. It will be recognized by the whole population as common sense. Then the people will laugh heartily at the old-fashioned and superstitious thinking that prevailed way back then in the 21st century.

[cska]

It really is funny. Every time they call Obama a communist, the liberals around me get angry. I say, "yeah, I sure wish he really was a communist."

[SouthernBelle82]

It really is funny. Every time they call Obama a communist, the liberals around me get angry. I say, "yeah, I sure wish he really was a communist."

Lol yes. I have a few friends who have said he's a socialist and I would respond "if that was true I'd be president of his fan club." Lol.