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Richard Nixon
1st April 2010, 03:30
This post was probably one of the most disgusting I have ever read. I have highlighted the parts I find particularly reprehensible.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7449939


Socialism - An Evil Concept

Socialism is one of the great evil concepts because it represents robbing from everyone (including the rich) and giving to the poor. I have never seen any valid justification of robbing from everyone (including the rich) to give to the poor.

Socialism has wide public appeal because there is a feeling that someone is going to get something for nothing, but wide public rejection with the reality that some will receive and everyone else has to pay.

Socialist/Democrats want to imply the only way a person can become rich is by abusing the poor. Socialist/Democrats also define everyone as rich that is not poor. The Bible says there is great danger with being either rich or poor.

Proverbs 30:8-9 states, "Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me: Lest I be full, and deny thee, and say, Who is the LORD? Or lest I be poor, and steal, and take the name of my God in vain."

There certainly are those that became rich by taking advantage of the weaknesses of the poor by selling pornography, sex, drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, etc. to the poor, but I believe most people live comfortably by hard work, following the commandments/doctrines of the Bible and God's blessings.

There certainly are those that are poor because they have physical and mental limitations, but I believe most people that are poor, got to be poor because of their weakness for pornography, sex, drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, etc.

The concept of redistribution of wealth becomes just stealing unless there is a justification that everyone (including the rich) deserve to be robbed and the poor deserve to be given to.

Lots of people like the concept of Robin Hood who robbed from the evil rich and gave to the virtuous poor, but I worry that a lot was robbed and only a little ever got to the poor. I worry that the wealth redistribution (Socialism) of the Democrats really means robbing from the rich, stuffing their pockets, then if there is anything left, they give to the poor.

Giving to the poor is evil, if the money is used by the poor to continue to buy pornography, sex, drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, etc.

The purpose of repentance in the Bible is to cast off the old man (pornography, sex, drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, etc.) and begin again (be reborn) with the old sins forgiven. If money is given to a person and they do not change their lifestyle, the money was wasted.

There are those that say they would rather see 100 evil poor people fed than to see one poor person starve to death, but feeding the 100 evil people leads to 200 evil people and sooner or later all die because there is no money to feed any, thus all starve to death.

The Bible says the wages of sin is death, and Socialism is not going to change that. The death may not be due to starvation, but it will come from AIDS, STDS, lung cancer, liver failure, etc. that are associated with an the unhealthy Atheistic Lifestyle.

The Bible advocates person charity. The Bible does not advocate Socialism.

The solution of the problem of both the rich, the poor an all those in between is not through Socialism, but rather by accepting Jesus Christ as Lord/Savior and committing to following the commandments/doctrines of the Bible.

Socialism is feeding a person for a day, but Christianity is teaching a person how to fish.

Socialism does more harm than good, thus the people of America would be best served if the government would get out of all Socialistic (Entitlement) programs.

Republicans have yet to prove to me that they totally support Christian principles, but democrats have proven they do "not" support Christian Principles.

Drace
1st April 2010, 03:50
Sigh...

All that believed were together, and had all things in common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
(Acts 2:44-45)

Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. 22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions. 23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. 24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
Matthew 19:16-24

"If one [...] becomes poor [...] help him [...] so he can continue to live among you. Do not take interest of any kind from him, but fear your God [...] You must not lend him money at interest or sell him food at a profit. I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt to give you the land of Canaan and to be your God."

"All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had [...] there were no needy persons among them [...] the money [...] was distributed to anyone as he had need."

mikelepore
5th April 2010, 06:31
To say "redistribution of wealth is stealing" is a sneaky trick of rhetoric. That terminology assumes that it's already a given that the legal owners of something are also the rightful owners. The matter of who are the rightful owners is the very issue that's under debate. Socialists say that the workers who build and operate the machines are entitled to the products.

Leonid Brozhnev
5th April 2010, 07:23
"Socialism is feeding a person for a day, but Christianity is teaching a person how to fish"

... then getting that one fish then turning it into lots of fish using divine powers? This kind of theistic nonsense has no political or economic relevance and as usual they only quote the bits of the bible that they agree with.