I hate America.

[alli0303]

:( America makes me sad. The way the government runs it is not in favor of the common American. I just don't understand how everything that happens is allowed to just happen.
America is ruined and I am no longer "proud to be an American".
There has to be something we can do...
Something...
:(

[Muzk]

*pats head*

[chegitz guevara]

Maybe America hates you too, did you ever think of that? Huh? Maybe you shouldn't have been running around with that other country behind America's back! :cursing:

[alli0303]

i'm sure they do...

[Muzk]

This one hates America too (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i16OMrwxsm8)

[Dimentio]

Moved to Chit-Chat

[bcbm]

love it or leave it treehugger

[mykittyhasaboner]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT0OqHr3wHQ&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT0OqHr3wHQ&feature=related)

[Pirate Utopian]

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[which doctor]

There has to be something we can do...
Something...
:(
Ever heard of an something called socialist revolution?
It takes a lot of hard work and time, but will be worth it in the end.

[The Red Next Door]

Don't hate, hate the people who run it, this country need socialism and now.

[red cat]

We should direct his hatred to a particular class.

[Robocommie]

I think America is a pretty cool guy. Eh kills Indians and enslaves Africans for centuries, and doesn't afraid of anything.

[Weezer]

I think America is a pretty cool guy. Eh kills Indians and enslaves Africans for centuries, and doesn't afraid of anything.

:lol:

[Robocommie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLVKoXp22mo

I do think we Americans have a lot to be ashamed of, but also a lot to be proud of. Howard Zinn should ideally leave you both angry at the crimes of the past, and determined to seek justice, but also very proud of the legacy of working class struggle that you as an American socialist are part of. (Not to mention the home of people like Mark Twain, Otis Redding and Duke Ellington)

[bcbm]

I do think we Americans have a lot to be ashamed of

why? i'm not the one who fucked things up.

[Robocommie]

why? i'm not the one who fucked things up.

I'm not so sure about that one, man. ;)

No, but seriously, what I really mean is that America is far from perfect, that's all.

[bcbm]

I'm not so sure about that one, man. ;)

i mean, i've fucked up a lot of things, but i don't feel like i can take credit for fucking up the whole country.





yet.


No, but seriously, what I really mean is that America is far from perfect, that's all.

no doubt, but that is the fault of the motherfuckers in power, not the motherfuckers strugglin.

[black magick hustla]

america is pretty beautiful. to hell with the state and the borders but people like to depict america as this sort of cultureless hellhole.

[Vendetta]

IhnUgAaea4M

:thumbup1:

[Il Medico]

america is pretty beautiful. to hell with the state and the borders but people like to depict america as this sort of cultureless hellhole.
America has some decent areas, some nice scenery and such. But for the most part, from my experiences, America is a huge fucking desert of shit with a few scattered oasis of decency.

[Qayin]

America = Mass society of the spectacle

[Robocommie]

i mean, i've fucked up a lot of things, but i don't feel like i can take credit for fucking up the whole country.





yet.

"So I leave my fucking apartment this morning and the first thing I see is the entire country in devastation. I mean all the trees are stripped of foliage, the cars have all exploded in their parking spaces, not a single god-damn building is standing. I'm talking not one stone upon another kind of shit. There's a fucking squirrel hanging from a lamp post in a noose. So I'm like... BCBM!"

[Revy]

"So I leave my fucking apartment this morning and the first thing I see is the entire country in devastation. I mean all the trees are stripped of foliage, the cars have all exploded in their parking spaces, not a single god-damn building is standing. I'm talking not one stone upon another kind of shit. There's a fucking squirrel hanging from a lamp post in a noose. So I'm like... BCBM!"
I was laughing until the part with the squirrel.:(

[bcbm]

I was laughing until the part with the squirrel.:(

the little shit had it coming

[A.R.Amistad]

James P. Cannon

One is the America of the imperialists—of the little clique of capitalists, landlords, and militarists who are threatening and terrifying the world. This is the America the people of the world hate and fear.
There is the other America—the America of the workers and farmers and the “little people”. They constitute the great majority of the people. They do the work of the country. They revere its old democratic traditions—its old record of friendship for the people of other lands, in their struggles against kings and despots—its generous asylum once freely granted to the oppressed.
This is the America which must and will solve the world crisis—by taking power out of the hands of the little clique of exploiters and parasites, and establishing a government of workers and farmers. The workers’ and farmers’ government will immediately proceed to change things fundamentally -
Throw out the profit and rent hogs, and increase the living standards of the people who do the useful work.
Assure freedom and democratic rights to all, not forgetting those who are denied any semblance of them now.
Call back the truculent admirals from the seven seas—and ground the airplanes with their dangling bombs.
Hold out the hand of friendship and comradely help to the oppressed and hungry people in the world.
These people don’t want to fight anybody. They only want to live. There are two billion people in the world—and more than half of them don’t get enough to eat. These people should be helped—not threatened, not driven back into slavery, under the social system that has kept half of them hungry all their lives.
It is well to recall now that America was born of revolution in 1776, and secured its unity as a nation through another revolution—the Civil War—which smashed the abomination of chattel slavery in the process. Our great, rich, wonderful country was once the light and the hope of the world. But our America has fallen into the hands of a small, selfish group, who are trying to dominate the world—and to set up a police state at home.
These Wall Street money-sharks are just as foreign to the real America as were the despots who ruled the land before the revolution of 1776. They are just as foreign as were the traffickers in human flesh and blood—the slave owners—whose power was broken by the Civil War—the blessed second American revolution. These imperialist rulers of America are the worst enemies of the American people.
American democracy, under their rule, is slipping away. The fear that oppressed Mark Twain, the fear that America would lose its democracy, is steadily becoming a reality. The Taft-Hartley Law is but the most recent instance of this ominous trend. The divine right of kings has reappeared in America—disguised as the divine right of judges to issue injunctions and levy fines against labour organisations.
Only three years have passed since the imperialists finished the last slaughter. And now they are drafting the youth for another. Militarism is becoming entrenched in America. Militarism—so long synonymous with goose-stepping Prussianism—is now to be made synonymous with Americanism, if big business has its way. A large section of the sturdy immigrants who helped to build this country came here to escape militarism. Now their grandsons face the same brutal regimentation here.
All this is part and parcel of the development of capitalism—the system which puts profits above all other considerations. The capitalist system has long outlived its usefulness. Capitalism offers no future to the people but depressions, imperialist wars, fascism, universal violence and a final plunge into barbarism.
To avoid such a fate, the workers of the United States must go into politics on their own account, independent of all capitalist politics. They must take power, establish a workers’ and farmers’ government and reorganise the economy of the country on a socialist basis. Socialist economy in the United States, eliminating capitalist wars, profits and waste, will be so productive as to ensure a rich living for all who are willing and able to work, and provide security and ample means for the aged and infirm.
We should also help the hungry people of the world to improve their standard of life. Socialist America will rapidly make that possible by helping them to secure their own freedom and develop their own economy. Eventually, the economy of the entire world will be united and planned on a socialist basis. This will bring universal peace—and undreamed of abundance for all people everywhere. The real upward march of humanity will begin.
The American working class can open up the way to this new world. They are the majority. They have the power in America. All that is necessary is for the working class to understand it—and to use it.
We firmly believe they will do so. We firmly believe the real America—the America of the workers, the people—will help save the world by saving herself.
We, the American Bolsheviks—we, the national convention of the Socialist Workers Party, summon our America to her great destiny—not as conqueror but as liberator of the world.

[Comrade Akai]

We should direct his hatred to a particular class.

I second this. :D

[Tablo]

Stupid American hatin' Muslim Commie scum. Git out of America!!

[Robocommie]

I was laughing until the part with the squirrel.:(

To be totally fair, you don't actually know anything about that squirrel. He could have been a real dick.

[Comrade Akai]

stupid american hatin' muslim commie scum. Git out of america!!

Dey muzlim commie pinkos...DEY TUK AR JERBS!!11!!

[Bright Banana Beard]

To be honest I don't like USAmerica, it needs to be changed already.

[Chambered Word]

dey muzlim commie pinkos...dey tuk ar jerbs!!11!!

yeah! If you durn lahk it, gert da feeerrk [email protected]!

[Angry Young Man]

:( America makes me sad. The way the government runs it is not in favor of the common American.

Yea, that and, give or take, all the world.

[Angry Young Man]

America has some decent areas, some nice scenery and such. But for the most part, from my experiences, America is a huge fucking desert of shit with a few scattered oasis of decency.

You still wanting to move to England? Don't. Trust me, England is a dreadful little den of pasty curtain-twitchers

[LeninBalls]

miami is mildly amusing

[Manifesto]

yeah! If you durn lahk it, gert da feeerrk [email protected]!
Derk der der derb!

[which doctor]

I'm glad I live in America.
Though, I'm also glad I don't live in Florida.

http://www.theodoresworld.net/pics/1207/GodBlessAmericaAnimation1.gif

[FreeFocus]

The land, where it has not been ruined, is beautiful, of course. The government and "culture" (being that America is an imagined nation and was capitalist from the get-go, it really doesn't have a general culture distinct from capitalist culture, i.e. consumerism), however, are not.

[Il Medico]

You still wanting to move to England? Don't. Trust me, England is a dreadful little den of pasty curtain-twitchers
Might move to France then or something. Just have to work a bit harder on becoming fluent than I currently am. And I kinda of already got the idea that England has it's fair share of shit by the fact that I deliver the Mail and it sells fairly well.

EDIT:
@whichdoctor: Yes, Florida sucks ass thanks for reminding me....I was having a good day.

[communist72]

I think America is a pretty cool guy. Eh kills Indians and enslaves Africans for centuries, and doesn't afraid of anything.

fuckin lol'd

[revolution inaction]

I do think we Americans have a lot to be ashamed of, but also a lot to be proud of. Howard Zinn should ideally leave you both angry at the crimes of the past, and determined to seek justice, but also very proud of the legacy of working class struggle that you as an American socialist are part of. (Not to mention the home of people like Mark Twain, Otis Redding and Duke Ellington)

why would anyone feel proud or ashamed because of "there" country?

[Angry Young Man]

Might move to France then or something. Just have to work a bit harder on becoming fluent than I currently am. And I kinda of already got the idea that England has it's fair share of shit by the fact that I deliver the Mail and it sells fairly well.

EDIT:
@whichdoctor: Yes, Florida sucks ass thanks for reminding me....I was having a good day.

All these surprises! You're a paper boy? I thought you were like 19! And why do Floridians want to read a nasty little haterag from the UK?

[Il Medico]

All these surprises! You're a paper boy? I thought you were like 19! And why do Floridians want to read a nasty little haterag from the UK?
I am 19 in July, adults deliver the paper here (you have to be at least 18 to have a paper route). And Crazy British people from England come hear for god knows what reason and buy that rag. Same thing with New Yorkers and the NY Post. Makes me money though, so guess I can't complain too much. But there is some irony that a leftist has to deliver all the conserviate papers in our area.

[the last donut of the night]

"So I leave my fucking apartment this morning and the first thing I see is the entire country in devastation. I mean all the trees are stripped of foliage, the cars have all exploded in their parking spaces, not a single god-damn building is standing. I'm talking not one stone upon another kind of shit. There's a fucking squirrel hanging from a lamp post in a noose. So I'm like... BCBM!"


if i only i could rep you in chit chat

[More Fire for the People]

I love hot-dogs on the campfire, hamburgers on the grill; trampolines in the summer time and beers while fishing. I love F. Scott Fitzgerald and Mark Twain. I loved fried chicken and apple cobbler. I am a thoroughbred American. Acknowledging this doesn't dismiss the massive gap between me and my government. In the same instance, I love my cultural values and items but I am a Marxist.

[Rusty Shackleford]

I am 19 in July, adults deliver the paper here (you have to be at least 18 to have a paper route). And Crazy British people from England come hear for god knows what reason and buy that rag. Same thing with New Yorkers and the NY Post. Makes me money though, so guess I can't complain too much. But there is some irony that a leftist has to deliver all the conserviate papers in our area.
hey! im turning 19 in July too!

i only wish it were on the 4th so i could have an overload of nationalism and cake.

because... you know cake and nationalism go together like Yin & Yang.

[Angry Young Man]

adults deliver the paper here (you have to be at least 18 to have a paper route).

Really? I always thought they were for 14 year old boys. And I wish all the Mail readers went to Florida. Screeching obnoxious right-wing bile just seems better suited to America

[Il Medico]

Really? I always thought they were for 14 year old boys. And I wish all the Mail readers went to Florida. Screeching obnoxious right-wing bile just seems better suited to America
I think a 14 year old boy would have a problem delivering a 50+ mile route in three- five hours in the middle of the night.

And no. Well, actually. The Daily Mail sells for 2.50 here (i make 2.10, and then pay the company one something) and The Mail sells for like 3.00 (so 2.50 for me.) *Note I have to pay the company for the papers I deliver, regardless of whether they sell or not.

[trying2]

america perfect? no... of course not.. At this point in my life I wouldn't trade my current situation for anything. I am 19. I live and go to college in the beautiful upper peninsula of Michigan. Surrounded by trees and wildlife, it is beautiful. Most people in the country don't even know that the U.P. exists. My life is damn near perfect in America. Belong to a middle class family and am working towards a degree. great life

[Robocommie]

why would anyone feel proud or ashamed because of "there" country?

Because why not? If you're a part of something, there's no reason to not be proud of belonging to it. I'm proud of being my father's son, and proud of being my brother's brother, I'm proud of my nephew, and so on and so forth, but I never had any choice in the matter on any of those things.

Same damn thing. I'm proud to be part of a legacy of American socialism, a legacy I intend to continue. It's part of my identity, and part of self-esteem is liking your identity.

[PurpleLove]

:( America makes me sad. The way the government runs it is not in favor of the common American. I just don't understand how everything that happens is allowed to just happen.
America is ruined and I am no longer "proud to be an American".
There has to be something we can do...
Something...
:(
There's plenty we can do but there's a reason we have prisons....

In any case, I get down a lot of days. It's hard NOT to be down.

I was never PROUD to be an American. I was born here without any say so. If I had it my way, I would have been born in France, Canada, or the UK and we'd NEVER leave.