Belarus, a ghost of the USSR

[Nolan]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarus


The current flag:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Flag_of_Belarus.svg/800px-Flag_of_Belarus.svg.png


The current coat of arms really takes you back:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Coat_of_arms_of_Belarus.svg/603px-Coat_of_arms_of_Belarus.svg.png


Even though it's no longer socialist, Belarus has retained many of the features of its Soviet past. Most of the economy is still state owned, and is not doing so bad:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Belarus

There is more immigration to Belarus than emigration from it.

The president has been accused by the west of rigging the elections. I don't know, but if they're not an American-backed stooge, the media tends to call them a dictator.

[Sam_b]

Thanks for telling me about a country i've never heard of before!!!

USEFUL!!

[Nolan]

You're a troll, ain't you.

[Sam_b]

only in the minds of some Trots


One of the more pathetic ramblings by Trotsky

You're a troll, aint you.

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Its not like this is a worthwhile thread anyway. To summarise, you've posted that there is this country called Belarus that exists, and it does X that you've read off of wikipedia.

[Nolan]

You're a troll, aint you.

So criticizing Trotsky makes me a troll?


To summarise, you've posted that there is this country called Belarus that exists, and it does X that you've read off of wikipedia.


No shit. Maybe I wanted to start a discussion on it or something.

[The Ben G]

So criticizing Trotsky makes me a troll?

Apparently when I criticize Stalin, I become a Troll.:(

[Sam_b]

A discussion on what? It doesn't lead anywhere. Am I supposed to post "I disagree, I don't think Belarus exists"? Honestly. Its just a post with two big pictures.

You don't actually citicise Trotsky. You redcat criticise Trotsky, you don't seem to have any knowledge on the subject, or really any subject, and just mae those sort of posts with no context or rationale. Saying something is objectively 'wrong' is not a criticism.

[Nolan]

A discussion on what? It doesn't lead anywhere. Am I supposed to post "I disagree, I don't think Belarus exists"? Honestly. Its just a post with two big pictures.

Jesus Christ, I don't have to explain why this is stupid. Someone out there has opinions on it, I'm sure. It's a fucking Chit-chat thread after all.


You don't actually citicise Trotsky. You redcat criticise Trotsky, you don't seem to have any knowledge on the subject, or really any subject, and just mae those sort of posts with no context or rationale. Saying something is objectively 'wrong' is not a criticism.

Mmmhm

[RHIZOMES]

Apparently when I criticize Stalin, I become a Troll.:(

You can be a troll and be complaining about either, I've noticed trolls on this board of both variety.

[Sam_b]

Its a chit-chat thread, and lets look at the reasons why. Perhaps because it doesn't have any content?

You answered your own question, and then feign being shocked that I kinda pointed it out. Mhmmm?

[Nolan]

Its a chit-chat thread, and lets look at the reasons why. Perhaps because it doesn't have any content?

You answered your own question, and then feign being shocked that I kinda pointed it out. Mhmmm?

It's in chit chat because I put it here. I didn't know any of this stuff before, and I thought someone on Revleft would find it interesting. You fail at being condescending, now stop being a prick.

[Raightning]

Belarus: the only country whose national flag was designed on an Amiga.

[Sam_b]

I didn't know any of this stuff before

You didn't know that Belarus has a flag?

[RHIZOMES]

Belarus: the only country whose national flag was designed on an Amiga.

:lol:

[Nolan]

You didn't know that Belarus has a flag?

Did you even look at my post?

[Sam_b]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland

The current flag:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Flag_of_Switzerland.svg/320px-Flag_of_Switzerland.svg.png

The current coat of arms really takes you back:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/83/Coat_of_Arms_of_Switzerland.svg/541px-Coat_of_Arms_of_Switzerland.svg.png

[Nolan]

Fuck this, if you don't see it I can't help you.

[Sam_b]

I thought the point was that there was no content. Maybe if you make a post in the main board on Belarus that isn't full of huge pictures and some statements that are in fact backed up and maybe I will have an 'opinion' on Belarus.

What are your opinions on Switzerland?

[Nolan]

I thought the point was that there was no content.

The point is that even though Belarus isn't socialist, it still clings to Soviet imagery, the Communist party holds a lot of seats, and it still has a command economy (alongside private enterprises). I didn't know that, so I wondered what Revleft would think about it. In a lot of ways it's like the USSR during Perestroika. Do you get the point of the thread now or do I have to keep telling you?

[Kléber]

The Chinese Nationalist Party still preserves some Leninist organizational practices. Also the flag of Taiwan is very red. I heard there's "command economy" there too, public healthcare even.

http://www.stampseast.ca/roc/images/taiwanflag.jpg

But i'm just sayin though.

[Sam_b]

Would have been quite good if you mentioned that in the premise, rather than hashed up wiki facts. The so-called 'communists' in Belarus do not have a lot of seats at all, less than ten if I remember correctly, so your assertion is also false. Indeed, Belarus is nothing like the USSR under Perestoika at all, you seem to have made this up completely because Belarus has remanants of a 'state owned' economy, negating completely the economic and social conditions that fell behind Perestroika and of course the economic negativity that occurred under this plan; especially in consideration of government spending.

Still an awful thread with a flag to make up for content.

[Nolan]

Would have been quite good if you mentioned that in the premise, rather than hashed up wiki facts. The so-called 'communists' in Belarus do not have a lot of seats at all, less than ten if I remember correctly, so your assertion is also false. Indeed, Belarus is nothing like the USSR under Perestoika at all, you seem to have made this up completely because Belarus has remanants of a 'state owned' economy, negating completely the economic and social conditions that fell behind Perestroika and of course the economic negativity that occurred under this plan; especially in consideration of government spending.

Read again. They have the most seats of any party (most are held by independents). And Lukashenko used to be in the communist party. There's no way to know if he still holds the ideology though. Most of the economy (80% if I remember correctly) is state owned. That's the highest of any capitalist country. It's not really like Perestroika, but oh well. I did mention that, but apparently you're too dull and focused on trolling the evil stalinist to pick up on it.


Still an awful thread with a flag to make up for content.

Jesus fucking christ, now I know why everyone on the board hates you.

[Kléber]

PHWOARRRrrr!!! I found some army parades that prove Taiwan is communist! Check out those armored vehicles!!

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/10/10/world/taiwan.650.22.jpg


There's no way to know if he still holds the ideology though.Indeed. Whether or not he is secretly communist is the most important factor in the revolution in Belarus. We can pardon him for his temporal sins if he is truly faithful.

[Sam_b]

^ This kinda sums up the rationale of the thread.


Read again. They have the most seats of any party (most are held by independents)

This does not mean anything. You said that the communist party "still has many seats": it does not. Whether or not it is the 'most seats of any party' is completely irrelevant. So maybe you should read again.


And Lukashenko used to be in the communist party.

So what? So did many people.


There's no way to know if he still holds the ideology though.

Maybe the fact that he doesn't promote any of it while in office.


Most of the economy (80% if I remember correctly) is state owned. That's the highest of any capitalist country. It's not really like Perestroika, but oh well.

Again, this doesn't mean much.



but apparently you're too dull and focused on trolling the evil stalinist to pick up on it.


Such arrogance. I haven't mentioned anything about Stalinism in this thread at all. You seem to be intent on trying to play the victim after I pointed out that this thread is pretty worthless.

I don't care that you are a 'Stalinist' one jot, why should I? You're probably a fifteen year old kid posturing on the internet and using it as an identity crutch against your suburban North American lifestyle.

[Nolan]

PHWOARRRrrr!!! I found some army parades that prove Taiwan is communist! Check out those armored vehicles!!

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/10/10/world/taiwan.650.22.jpg

Indeed. Whether or not he is secretly communist is the most important factor in the revolution in Belarus. We can pardon him for his temporal sins if he is truly faithful.

Hi there fucktard, I never said Lukashenko is communist or Belarus is socialist.

[Sam_b]

Hi there fucktard

Somebody touched a nerve?

Do you think its appropriate for leftists to use words that are amalgamations of prejudiced language such as "retard"?

[Nolan]

^ This kinda sums up the rationale of the thread.

You would think so.


This does not mean anything. You said that the communist party "still has many seats": it does not. Whether or not it is the 'most seats of any party' is completely irrelevant. So maybe you should read again.I basically just said what wiki says. It has the most of any party, but most are held by independents.



Maybe the fact that he doesn't promote any of it while in office.Fine. I haven't studied Belarus in much detail. Like I said, I didn't know this.



Such arrogance. I haven't mentioned anything about Stalinism in this thread at all. You seem to be intent on trying to play the victim after I pointed out that this thread is pretty worthless.You didn't point out anything, you just derailed the thread. The point of the thread is that Belarus still lives in the 80s, with its play communist party and command economy. I thought someone else who didn't know would find it interesting. As you are a trot and I mentioned the USSR, I can only imagine. Just look at Kleber's stupidity above.


I don't care that you are a 'Stalinist' one jot, why should I? You're probably a fifteen year old kid posturing on the internet and using it as an identity crutch against your suburban North American lifestyle.Haha you are such a stupid fuck.

[Nolan]

I don't intend on responding to you again, Sam_b.

[Sam_b]

I basically just said what wiki says, you dolt. It has the most of any party, but most are held by independents.

This does not make sense. However way you look at it, the communist party does not have 'most' of the seats. Just because it has the 'most of any party' does not mean it has most of the seats.


You didn't point out anything, you just derailed the thread. The point of the thread is that Belarus still lives in the 80s, with its play communist party and command economy. I thought someone else who didn't know would find it interesting. As you are a trot and I mentioned the USSR, I can only imagine.

The point of the thread is something you have just said now. I pointed out that it isn't similar to Perestroika or indeed the USSR. Why the fact I am a Trotskyist has anything to do with it I cannot imagine.


Haha you are such a stupid fuck.

Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

[Sam_b]

I don't intend on responding to you again, Sam_b.

Aww I'm a broken man.

BTW you still haven't answered why you think prejudiced language is acceptable.

[Guerrilla22]

http://tizona.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/canadian-flag.jpghttp://www.canadiandesignresource.ca/officialgallery/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/canada-coat-of-arms.jpg

[al8]

This Boobypenis banner also contains strong leftist iconography. It is very socialisty-ish and points to unity of the sexes in the class struggle.
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2544/penusbreast.jpg

[Wanted Man]

That penis really takes you back.

[Guerrilla22]

Canada a ghost of the former British empire, or a nicer version of the US depending on how you look it at it.

[Nolan]

Fuck you. :lol:

Another random tidbit, Belarussian agriculture is still collectivized.

[Raúl Duke]

:lol::laugh::lol:

[Dr Mindbender]

im coming to the conclusion that Sam b is Frankie Boyle.

[Pirate Utopian]

Sam_b was hilarious in this thread.

[AK]

This thread was just made up of Captain Cuba-bashing...

[Guerrilla22]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-P8PxfOtYY&feature=recentf

[Nolan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qutm9kaCV8&feature=related

[AK]

I swear, through that video I just heard: "Conform, conform, conform!"
(The first one)

[Bright Banana Beard]

Taiwan isn't a ghost of the USSR.

[Kléber]

Ghosts don't exist, but the GMD was modeled organizationally on the Bolshevik Party, Soviet military advisors were instrumental in setting up the Chinese Republican army in the 1920's, the USSR was the ROC's biggest supporter before the Nationalists went over to the German sphere, and continued to provide massive military aid during WWII.