View Full Version : Wikileaks.com under pressure
Meridian
25th March 2010, 00:30
Interesting. Wikileaks.com is a website that finds secret documents and publishes them, basically. Now it apparently seems they have classified video footage of american military murdering civilians, journalists amongst others, and are being threatened by Pentagon.
Spread it.
http://morgue.isprettyawesome.com/?p=1361
http://twitter.com/wikileaks
EDIT: Here is the video in question:
5rXPrfnU3G0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0&feature=player_embedded)
CartCollector
25th March 2010, 02:40
Someone in the comments of The Morgue brought up the possibility that it could be a lead in to an April Fool's joke (for you non-Americans, April Fool's is on April 1st and it's a day when people prank each other). I hope it is, but it would be interesting if it wasn't.
Morgenstern
1st April 2010, 21:39
Either this is a hoax or wikileaks has something really big. I will be interested to see what happens when it is shown on April 5th.
FreeFocus
1st April 2010, 23:37
I don't think its an April Fool's joke. I'll be waiting for the 5th.
Lacrimi de Chiciură
2nd April 2010, 00:35
This could be really damaging to the military and do quite a bit to break down people's delusional belief that US military cares in anyway for human life. Of course, it's essential to mobilize the masses because we already know the Obama administration won't do shit. (Continuing war crimes, protect the war criminals Bush and Cheney and friends, etc.)
Morgenstern
2nd April 2010, 00:49
If the video proves to be of any worth then we need to spread it.
anticap
2nd April 2010, 10:32
I've seen videos on YouTube of U$ military personnel murdering civilian motorists in Iraq and cheering about it like it was a video game. This must be something very special indeed, considering all the cloak 'n' dagger posturing.
Morgenstern
2nd April 2010, 21:40
I've seen videos on YouTube of U$ military personnel murdering civilian motorists in Iraq and cheering about it like it was a video game. This must be something very special indeed, considering all the cloak 'n' dagger posturing.
Maybe killing American or western media?
Celtic Leftist
5th April 2010, 19:22
This video has now been released, I'm not yet trusted enough to post links, so head to collateralmurder dot com if you want to see it and pass it on.
2 Reuters reporters killed, several other civilians killed and others wounded.
Quick Edit: is also on the normal wikileaks site.
Morgenstern
5th April 2010, 20:57
Just saw the video at wikileaks, it's authentic. The collateralmurder link didn't work for me but wikileaks did.
RED DAVE
6th April 2010, 02:32
Here's the link. It's horrendous.
http://wikileaks.org/
RED DAVE
Mendax
6th April 2010, 21:07
Didn't wikileaks post a document not that long ago about the US goverment planning to bring down anyway? All if they were this is gonna make them try a lot harder.
anticap
7th April 2010, 04:36
Democracy Now! interviews (http://www.democracynow.org/2010/4/6/massacre_caught_on_tape_us_military) Wikileaks co-founder about this massacre.
Here's the link. It's horrendous.
So are the accompanying YouTube comments (http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=5rXPrfnU3G0). Many of them state matter-of-factly that there were AK-47s and RPGs clearly visible. One wonders which video they were watching. It seems that people suffer not only from false consciousness under capitalism, but from visual hallucinations as well.
Democracy Now! interviews (http://www.democracynow.org/2010/4/6/massacre_caught_on_tape_us_military) Wikileaks co-founder about this massacre.
So are the accompanying YouTube comments (http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=5rXPrfnU3G0). Many of them state matter-of-factly that there were AK-47s and RPGs clearly visible. One wonders which video they were watching. It seems that people suffer not only from false consciousness under capitalism, but from visual hallucinations as well.
A daily (bourgeois) newspaper here ran (a still of) the video on its frontpage. I first thought "well, that is good", until I read the underline 'is it really as bad as it looks? a voice of nuance' and then my stomach turned...
Lacrimi de Chiciură
7th April 2010, 07:54
A daily (bourgeois) newspaper here ran (a still of) the video on its frontpage. I first thought "well, that is good", until I read the underline 'is it really as bad as it looks? a voice of nuance' and then my stomach turned...
In the future there will be photos of that newspaper in the history books, showing how the media was so painfully dominated by reactionaries.
Just look at the ridiculous reasons for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan: «they got WMD'z» and «Terrorists!!! Freedom!!!! USA! USA! USA!.» Ridickless. People should be noticing the scam, I mean this is like VIDEO EVIDENCE slapping you in the face.
Buffalo Souljah
8th April 2010, 07:25
I doubt this is going to be anywhere near the front pages in two weeks.
What's that....a fly!
anticap
8th April 2010, 20:35
In the future there will be photos of that newspaper in the history books, showing how the media was so painfully dominated by reactionaries.
And that's the key: in the future, when those involved are long dead, and when society has progressed to a point that "conservatism" means fighting to preserve a way of life that would appear progressive to us today (that's how conservatism works: progressives advance society, conservatives whine then accept the inevitable but insist that we go no further, and the process begins anew). In the future, this massacre will be taken for granted as such. But for now it has to be downplayed, while killings by anti-imperialists are inflated beyond all proportion. (This is the same phenomenon that brings us 24/7 coverage of the "Tea Party" movement in the U$, while generations of leftist activism goes unreported.)
ComradeOm
11th April 2010, 18:54
Haven't seen that video yet (limited bandwidth) but I've heard rumours that Wikileaks has a video of another US massacre in which almost a hundred people were killed. May be nothing but watch this space all the same
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