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Leftalone09
25th March 2010, 00:17
I wasn't sure where else to post this, so I'm hoping it's in the right place.
I ran into an informal debate strategy but haven't been able to properly test it out.
Basically, what I would do is explain the idea to them, dispelling a few myths and such, and see if they'll say something along the lines of "It's a great idea but it'll never work". There are a lot of people out there who seem to think it's a good idea, but are discouraged because they believe it won't work.
My response to that would be to point out that they said it was a good idea, and to get them to ponder how many people might agree it sounds like a good idea after hearing it. Has anyone tried this to gain a foothold in an informal debate, say with a friend, colleague, etc? Does it work?

Also, any tips on refuting the argument from human nature? I mean it's not convincing me, I have reason to believe the argument from human nature is flawed. I explain that volunteer firefighters do pretty well without pay, doing what they do because it feels good to do it. However they skim right over that point.

~Spectre
25th March 2010, 00:57
I wasn't sure where else to post this, so I'm hoping it's in the right place.
I ran into an informal debate strategy but haven't been able to properly test it out.
Basically, what I would do is explain the idea to them, dispelling a few myths and such, and see if they'll say something along the lines of "It's a great idea but it'll never work". There are a lot of people out there who seem to think it's a good idea, but are discouraged because they believe it won't work.
My response to that would be to point out that they said it was a good idea, and to get them to ponder how many people might agree it sounds like a good idea after hearing it. Has anyone tried this to gain a foothold in an informal debate, say with a friend, colleague, etc? Does it work?

Also, any tips on refuting the argument from human nature? I mean it's not convincing me, I have reason to believe the argument from human nature is flawed. I explain that volunteer firefighters do pretty well without pay, doing what they do because it feels good to do it. However they skim right over that point.

Pointing out and emphasizing which parts of an argument your opponent has conceded to you is always a generally strong tactic.

Point out how human nature is entirely malleable, such as different sets of social relations in different parts of the world/history/stages of economic development, etc.

There is nothing in the history of our evolution as a species that makes humans predisposed to capitalism.