Fascist Holocaust Denial Bullshit

[Nolan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeyWbMB-gIw

Respond to the claims made in this video please.

[danyboy27]

XeyWbMB-gIw

Respond to the claims made in this video please.

its so idiotic, it make me cry.

The wansee conference alone debunk the whole video.
Heinchmann, the architect of the holocaust was even proud of what he done, how efficient it was.


Its hard to deny that gas chamber existed, IG farben made millions reichmark selling the gas that killed all those people.

Hell you dont need to argues about the gas chamber to show how systematic the killing of jews was during the Reich era.

the whole concept of what was the einzatgruppen where is a good exemple of how cruel and systematic the erradication of jews was commited.

[Axle]

Who cares what holocaust deniers think? They're wrong, and they'll always be wrong. Its not as if holocaust denial is gaining any steam outside of fascism...no one outside of that movement believes it and they pretty much share our exact views of the people who do.

[danyboy27]

Who cares what holocaust deniers think? They're wrong, and they'll always be wrong. Its not as if holocaust denial is gaining any steam outside of fascism...no one outside of that movement believes it and they pretty much share our exact views of the people who do.
you would be surprised how persuasive some of these folks can be for a person that is barely informed on the subject.

the Myth that Nazi germany buit the autobhan still live on decades after the fall of nazi germany.

[Little Bobby Hutton]

Libetarians feel he HAS THE RIGHT to say this :(

[danyboy27]

Libetarians feel he HAS THE RIGHT to say this :(
well, yes he have the right to affirm that the holocaust didnt happened.

and we have the right to laugh our ass off when this kind of coo coo is talking.

[HEAD ICE]

www.nizkor.org

^^ destroys every holocaust denier argument

[Nolan]

www.nizkor.org (http://www.nizkor.org)

^^ destroys every holocaust denier argument

Very useful, thank you.

[Jacobinist]

First of all, you can tell the video came from a right wing source because it only mentions the 6 million Jews who perished in the Holocaust; with absolutely no mention of the other 6-8 million left wing communists, anarchists, socialists, anti-fascists and anyone else otherwise perceived as enemies of the state. Now let me state now, that I do not hate Jews nor am I an anti-semite. I do however dislike the current Israeli state and its fascist tactics used on the Palestinian people. And for that reason, fuck what ever they complain about, one word, hypocrites.

On edit, fuck the American Libertarian movement. IDIOTS.

[ContrarianLemming]

I know it's not really related, but theres a difference between Nazism/White nationalism and Fascism. Fascism is based around "will" and merticocracy, the idea that "will" of the people is exemplified through there leader, who should not feel privilaged but humbled, they belief courage honor and valor with hierarchal meritocracy should be the basis of society, which is contrasted the Nazi belief that the leader does not exemplfy the peoples will, but the people exemplfy his will, along with the usual racism
Or, to put is better, Fascists believe individuals are not born equal, Nazis beliefs individuals and races are not born equal

[Nolan]

I know it's not really related, but theres a difference between Nazism/White nationalism and Fascism. Fascism is based around "will" and merticocracy, the idea that "will" of the people is exemplified through there leader, who should not feel privilaged but humbled, they belief courage honor and valor with hierarchal meritocracy should be the basis of society, which is contrasted the Nazi belief that the leader does not exemplfy the peoples will, but the people exemplfy his will, along with the usual racism
Or, to put is better, Fascists believe individuals are not born equal, Nazis beliefs individuals and races are not born equal

There are only minor differences. The only major one is the nazi belief in the supremacy of the "aryan" race.

[ContrarianLemming]

There are only minor differences. The only major one is the nazi belief in the supremacy of the "aryan" race.

I think we need to remember It

[Robocommie]

This... confuses the shit out of me. What is Hitler supposed to be doing? Promoting the idea that the Holocaust happened? ...Why would white supremacists have Hitler freak out over this? This video makes no sense.

[Nolan]

I think we need to remember It

Nazism is a branch of fascism. They deviated a little bit from Mussolini, but the roots are clear. They are fascists.

[RadioRaheem84]

Still don't get what the Holocaust Deniers think of as proof for that the Holocaust was fake?

[ContrarianLemming]

Still don't get what the Holocaust Deniers think of as proof for that the Holocaust was fake?

I think it's just a joke
I have been on quite a few Nazi forums (didnt join, just read) you should to, they talk about it a lot, they seem to have a lot of "sources" and "proof" the holocaust didn't happen, there are also those who do think it happened and wish it got finished

i think everyone here shoul read up on nazi forums, know thy enemy

[Red Commissar]

Still don't get what the Holocaust Deniers think of as proof for that the Holocaust was fake?

Very flimsy things. Most of their arguments regards a "zionist" hijacking of the media to make people think the Holocaust happened, or at least from what I've read.

Their most obvious intent is they think by downplaying or removing the Holocaust from their history, while pointing to crimes in the Soviet Union, they can give their shit head fascist beliefs a more "clean" image.


This... confuses the shit out of me. What is Hitler supposed to be doing? Promoting the idea that the Holocaust happened? ...Why would white supremacists have Hitler freak out over this? This video makes no sense.

This is a format that has been used for parodies, such as these, where they take that scene from Downfall and transpose idiotic situations onto it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_IUDvbqZQM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xUS30-RFf0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfkDxF2kn1I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8dl4faCpJE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuGxEpQ3Qh0

But I honestly never have seen holocaust deniers get on this meme. It's quite stupid. Even more so when you see how many subscribers the video maker has.

[Morgenstern]

The Holocaust Deniers are mainly doing it to help seem a bit more friendly for potential recruits. They distance themselves, although unjustly (as National Socialists would be fine with mass murdering people today).

[Audeamus]

Still don't get what the Holocaust Deniers think of as proof for that the Holocaust was fake?

Generally, I've found that Holocaust deniers point to little inconsistencies in a very few personal testimonies of the Holocaust and extrapolate that if a few reports are inconsistent, the entire thing is a lie. Combined with a smattering of bad science from people like Leucther, even if said science is wholly debunked by reputable sources. They of course ignore those reports that contradict their denial, or view it as evidence of a massive conspiracy to cover up the truth.

[bricolage]

First of all, you can tell the video came from a right wing source because it only mentions the 6 million Jews who perished in the Holocaust; with absolutely no mention of the other 6-8 million left wing communists, anarchists, socialists, anti-fascists and anyone else otherwise perceived as enemies of the state.

Why does that mean you can tell it is a right wing video?


Now let me state now, that I do not hate Jews nor am I an anti-semite.

Sentences that start like never seem to end well...


I do however dislike the current Israeli state and its fascist tactics used on the Palestinian people.

Apart from the fallacious accusation of fascism sure I agree with you Israel is a disgrace, however...


And for that reason, fuck what ever they complain about, one word, hypocrites.

In regards to this video I'm guessing you are saying fuck when they 'complain' about the Holocaust and I'm sorry this doesn't stand. It's not just Israelis or their descendents that suffered in the Holocaust and to say fuck it is a gross insult to those that perished in it. Israel does not have a monopoly over memory of the Holocaust and no matter what Israel does it never makes it right to say fuck the Holocaust which I'm sorry but is what you are saying. If some communists blew up a school we would still be communists, if the Israeli states remembers the Holocaust we still remember the Holocaust too.


Still don't get what the Holocaust Deniers think of as proof for that the Holocaust was fake?

There is a lot of attempts to prove things 'were not possible', eg. there wasn't enough gas to do x or the walls weren't stained colour y. There are also lots of claims that it's all a conspiracy, however even if this was the case they still have to disprove all the evidence that the Holocaust did take place which of course they can not. It's ridiculous to try and debate a Holocaust denier, if any of you were thinking about it I wouldn't bother.

[Ramon Mercador]

Comrade it just made me so Angry watching that.

Thank you everyone for providing info and argument against that. I just cant wait til we kill every one of those last Fascist scumbags.

Long live Stalin

[I.Drink.Your.Milkshake]

I think it's just a joke
I have been on quite a few Nazi forums (didnt join, just read) you should to, they talk about it a lot, they seem to have a lot of "sources" and "proof" the holocaust didn't happen, there are also those who do think it happened and wish it got finished

i think everyone here shoul read up on nazi forums, know thy enemy


I read St*rmfr*nt every few weeks, on averge. Some of the "poetry" is priceless! :lol: As Aeon135 says, Know Thy Enemy. It does make me feel a little dirty, though.

On the subject of the deniers, i watched a denial video on youtube yesterday and noticed in the comments box 'HaveHeardAllTheLies' had posted "census" figures of the world Jewish population for the years 1939, 1941 and 1945, which ran at 15.3, 15.1 and 15.6 million respectively. Now ive seen figures which stated that the worlds Jewish population was around 13.3 million in 2005, let alone 1939, so i asked 'HaveHeardAllTheLies' to source his information. He sent me a link to an online version of the 1939 book "The 45 Questions Most Frequently Asked About the Jews" by Nazi-Sympathiser and Hitler admirer William Dudley Pelley, which "details how Americas Jewish population rose from 4 to 12 million in the 1930s". However, none of the information in the book is sourced either. This is pretty typical of Holocaust deniers. Endless referals to unreliable, unsourced material that references other unreliable, unsourced material until you eventually end up and some ancient randomly invented nonsense by some Nazi/Hitler fanatic, such as Pelley's work.

These days I tend to treat deniers as i treat creationists or Audley Harrison. Just dont entertain it. Too busy living in the real world.

[Ztrain]

Fact:There is more proof of the Holocaust than the Civil war...The idea that thousands of Jews just went and tattoed numbers on their arms are entirely delusional.

[AK]

Fact:There is more proof of the Holocaust than the Civil war...The idea that thousands of Jews just went and tattoed numbers on their arms are entirely delusional.
Yeah and they built all these "showers" which were actually zionist money-vaults so they could really get set on taking over our governments, converting us to Judaism and stealing our money and women.

[Invincible Summer]

you would be surprised how persuasive some of these folks can be for a person that is barely informed on the subject.

the Myth that Nazi germany buit the autobhan still live on decades after the fall of nazi germany.

I'm pretty sure that Nazi Germany did construct the Autobahn, but it wasn't their idea.

And besides, I think it's a bit immature to try and deny any sort of advancements made by groups that we are the opposition to. Yeah, Nazis were fuckers, but it's difficult to admit that they did keep people employed and whatnot by building infrastructure

[Os Cangaceiros]

I've always felt that it's kind of strange that talk of the Holocaust always centers around the death camps. There's also an overabundance of evidence suggesting that genocide occured outside of the concentration camp setting; in Eastern Europe, genocide often took the form of roaming death squads that would go on "Jew hunts".

There's a good book about this called Ordinary Men.

[The Vegan Marxist]

Holocaust denial doesn't make sense to me. Why would they deny such an event when it's something they would support - the death of the jewish race?

[AK]

Holocaust denial doesn't make sense to me. Why would they deny such an event when it's something they would support - the death of the jewish race?
Because nearly everyone agrees it's an atrocity and many whites don't want to be associated with such people who support it.

[CartCollector]

Holocaust deniers have the side benefit being able to say that the faking of the Holocaust is just one of many examples of Jews making things up to look weak and innocent, while they're really horrible and control the media to suit their purposes. Holocaust denial makes whites look good and Jews look bad.

[ArrowLance]

I've always felt that it's kind of strange that talk of the Holocaust always centers around the death camps. There's also an overabundance of evidence suggesting that genocide occured outside of the concentration camp setting; in Eastern Europe, genocide often took the form of roaming death squads that would go on "Jew hunts".

There's a good book about this called Ordinary Men.


I always felt that it was odd when talking about Nazi Germany the only thing they ever bring up is the holocaust. As if the holocaust is necessary to discredit the Fascist regime. I once told someone in a discussion i didn't need the holocaust to hate Nazism and Hitler, they asked me, "What else is there?"

[rednordman]

Pfff....In a nutshell, I think that all Holocaust denial is, is simply a way of shelving the blame from radical fascism (nazism), to communism and the left. This is a reason why in my view, nazis get more freedom of speach that we do. I actually think this is tolerated by the mainstream media too.

Its all very easy for them to put the blame for the gas chambers on Stalin as they think he invented them. At the end of the day, the still used them with avengence.

The truth be told is that the joke is on them from the very beginning. This is because they all believe in nationalism n all that. They all fell for the properganda. In reality Nazi germany was probably the most powerfull experiment in imperialism in history of mankind.

All Hitlers nazis wanted was a single planet of german territory. They didnt give a shit about national integrety of any nation other than there own, and it was there sole mission to gun down anyone who opposed german values and culture.

Heck, they may as well have used the hole white national thing as a way of playing on ignourant racist sentiment that was already rife across the whole of europe at the time. Obviously this is hyperthetical, as they where vicious racists, but they were still imperialists at the fore.

Its sad really, because in being so dam nationalistic, Hitler has tainted Germany for ever because he wanted to enforce germany upon the whole of the world, where many lands that he claimed to be 'liberating' really didnt want this.

The only reason why there are nazi defenders and holocaust deniers today, really is because of the lie that they where there to 'defend nations against communism' and 'promote national heritage and identity'. This is really what most of these stupid 'fascists' are. They are totally barking up the wrong bush imo.

The real irony of all their lies is that Stalins soviet union actually allowed peoples to speak there national language. If the nazis had won WW2, we really would all be talking german by now.

[I.Drink.Your.Milkshake]

Long live Stalin




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[AK]

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Ooooohh.... can I deliver it? :wub:

[9]

Just dont entertain it. Too busy living in the real world.

This. Who cares? It's a dubbed meme on youtube, for fuck's sake.