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¿Que?
24th March 2010, 07:49
Here is the quote:

With the division of labour, in which all these contradictions are implicit, and which in its turn is based on the natural division of labour in the family and the separation of society into individual families opposed to one another, is given simultaneously the distribution, and indeed the unequal distribution, both quantitative and qualitative, of labour and its products, hence property…Division of labour and private property are, moreover, identical expressions: in the one the same thing is affirmed with reference to activity as is affirmed in the other with reference to the product of the activity.
Here is the source:
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/german-ideology/ch01a.htm#a4


Here is my conclusion:
In a communist society in which private property is assumed to be abolished, then so would be abolished the division of labor. Really?! Is this realistic? Or am I reading this all wrong? Help me out comrades.

¿Que?
24th March 2010, 22:17
bump. Nobody's got an answer?

Let me start you off...

Well, The German Ideology is actually one of Marx's earlier works. As he developed his theory more, he came to the conclusion that___________.

Please fill in the blank.

Thanks.

OldMoney
25th March 2010, 01:18
I give up, where whats the answer? Heres something I know about marx ideas on private propertey, and what communism means to humans when achived in the pure evolution from socialism. Sory it took so long to get back at ya, i was trippin balls in the falls.

Communism as the positive transcendence of private property as human self-estrangement, and therefore as the real appropriation of the human essence by and for man; communism therefore as the complete return of man to himself as a social (i.e., human) being – a return accomplished consciously and embracing the entire wealth of previous development. This communism, as fully developed naturalism, equals humanism, and as fully developed humanism equals naturalism; it is the genuine resolution of the conflict between man and nature and between man and man – the true resolution of the strife between existence and essence, between objectification and self-confirmation, between freedom and necessity, between the individual and the species. Communism is the riddle of history solved, and it knows itself to be this solution.

Ravachol
25th March 2010, 01:50
I was confused about this at first as well, however there are two divisions of labor. One is the technical division (Eg. computer programming is a seperate technical activity from growing carrots), the other the social one (Eg. assembly line work vs paper-work which are activities that can be rotated without technical difficulities). The social division of labor privileges certain people with the more comfortable jobs due to their ability on the labor market to refuse 'dirty jobs' due to their economic position or their (partial) ownership of the means of production, for example. This will be abolished in favor of a democratic rotation of labor, or other methods of labor-task distribution.

¿Que?
25th March 2010, 03:09
Thanks guys. I was kind of stumped myself. Hence the thread.