Human evolution & captialism, non-altruism, selfishism tied to genetics?

[Sam Da Communist]

Is it possible capitalism/feudalism/imperialism is/was increasing the number of harmful non-altruistic traits of the human race? Think of culture and genetics please.

Your thoguhts on captialist gene (and the culture) that is selfish/non-altruistic, savage, un-creative, pro-task and not freedom. acknowledging darwin, and fictional (or real) futuristic captialist dominance.

Capitalism or any other community CULTURAL enforcement of ideas tends to crush creativity, and i once heard Noam chompsky say that engineers and sciences are lacking in japan, the ultra socially anti-creativity pro-uniformity pro-slave nation.

We humans are naturally communist, but due to society's culture, we are not really forced to achieve our maximum altruistic potential (unless you are religious or philosophical, commie).

I read a book in the past about travelling in the future by H G Wells, and the human race has become separate species due to the bourgeois and the proletarian cultural divide. (strangely the bourgois become very communal and peaceful, and the proletarian become cannibalistic psycho savages and darkness dwellers, wtf, the opposite!)

Your thoughts. about all these ideas and theories, and facts.

[Dean]

Self-interest is pretty clearly more adequately fulfilled in the context of a cooperative, collectivist system. I think even selfishness, that is the desire for unreasonable degrees of social and economic power and wealth, even if it has taken some genetic roots in the human animal, is trumped by the desire for a sustainable, collectively beneficial system.


I read a book in the past about travelling in the future by H G Wells, and the human race has become separate species due to the bourgeois and the proletarian cultural divide. (strangely the bourgois become very communal and peaceful, and the proletarian become cannibalistic psycho savages and darkness dwellers, wtf, the opposite!).
Actually, I think socialist-style systems become much more viable within a bourgeois class. They have the means to strategically analyze which systemic constructs can benefit them best, and as we have seen, those systems which most closely act toward the interests of their constituency are collectively beneficial.

The real issue to be raised in regards to collectively beneficial systems, is the increasingly narrow population which they represent. This disparity in social organization of the proles versus the bourgeois is really a result of the systemic organization that the highest echelon of industry and politic put in place, in the furtherance of their interests.

[Robocloud]

I would argue that evolution inevitably produces self interested individuals.

Among primitive species, Altruism only exists within small groups in which all participants have a tangible interest.

I heard people argue that no act is truly selfless, but we always have some interest, even if it is only expressed on the subconscious level. However, it is often done on a conscious level. Among the Bourgeoisie, this is commonly referred to as Bureaucratic Collectivism.

This line of reasoning leads me to conclude that capitolism is product of human nature.

Also, evolution takes a very long time, and the human brain is such a stable, complex organ that it is not subject to sudden drastic changes.

It is also important to note that it is unlikely that any 2 people vary by more than .5% genetically, and we are 99% the same a chimpanzees.

[mikelepore]

Is it possible capitalism/feudalism/imperialism is/was increasing the number of harmful non-altruistic traits of the human race? Think of culture and genetics please.

Acquired characteristics are not inherited. To investgate your hypothesis you need to identify ways that non-altruistic behaviors might make some individuals more likely to avoid lethal dangers, attract mates, produce more offspring, or cause offspring to have better chance of survival. Not just having money from whatever source, for example, inheritance, but only non-altruistic characteristics themselves. There's no other way being non-altruistic due to a social system could be converted into an inheritable trait.