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tradeunionsupporter
19th March 2010, 10:17
Im a White Male who supports Race Mixing. I want the Human Race to become one skin color only than will we be united and ready for a Socialist world so I would love to see more Black Men with White Women because I want a one race world. I can see beauty in all races of Women. You may think Im not kidding but Im not I really do support race mixing because of my politics and I don't care if Black Men date White Women I think White Men should date Non White Women. I would love to see a World where we look at each other as Human Beings and not as different races. In my opinion race does not exist. Anyone else here support Race Mixing ? I think Race Mixing is one way to fight Fascism.

RedAnarchist
19th March 2010, 10:23
Im a White Male who supports Race Mixing. I want the Human Race to become one skin color only than will we be united and ready for a Socialist world so I would love to see more Black Men with White Women because I want a one race world. I can see beauty in all races of Women. You may think Im not kidding but Im not I really do support race mixing because of my politics and I don't care if Black Men date White Women I think White Men should date Non White Women. I would love to see a World where we look at each other as Human Beings and not as different races. In my opinion race does not exist. Anyone else here support Race Mixing ? I think Race Mixing is one way to fight Fascism.

How can you believe in race mixing when you don't think race exists? Not only that, but race is a social construct regardless of someone's skin colour.

Whilst there's nothing wrong with such relationships, it's not going to end racism or bring socialism forward. Even in countries where there are no huge differences in people's complexion there are caste systems often based on how light or dark a person's skin is.

Crusade
19th March 2010, 10:30
"Race mixing" won't fight Fascism. Someone will find something else to feel superior about. I'm not against, nor do I "support" race mixing. Any relationship that's initiated primarily, or even partly, due to race is almost certain to fail. This includes dating outside your race to "fight fascism"(:laugh: riiiight) or dating someone of your own race just because they're the same color as you. Racialism shouldn't be a factor in any romantic relationship. You can have a PREFERENCE for your race or another, for example, simply because you find them more attractive. It's alright to prefer one "culture" over another, too. But frankly, any member of any "race" can be a part of any culture, so it'd be troublesome to play the culture card to justify excluding certain races, or even exclusively dating certain races(including your own).

Bankotsu
19th March 2010, 10:40
I oppose race mixing.

¿Que?
19th March 2010, 10:40
EDITED: Deleted because I guess I should give this person a fair hearing. (Even though my money is on troll).

Dimentio
19th March 2010, 10:47
Im a White Male who supports Race Mixing. I want the Human Race to become one skin color only than will we be united and ready for a Socialist world so I would love to see more Black Men with White Women because I want a one race world. I can see beauty in all races of Women. You may think Im not kidding but Im not I really do support race mixing because of my politics and I don't care if Black Men date White Women I think White Men should date Non White Women. I would love to see a World where we look at each other as Human Beings and not as different races. In my opinion race does not exist. Anyone else here support Race Mixing ? I think Race Mixing is one way to fight Fascism.

Most peoples in the world are the result of what Americans call "race-mixing". Germans and Scandinavians for example were originally tribal confederations of Celts, Proto-Germanics, Baltics and Slavs. The Romans were a mix of nearly every people in the Mediterranean World. That hasn't stopped racism from occurring since "racial identities" were constructed to support the nation-states (before that, religion had been the decisive factor in cultural identity).

Crusade
19th March 2010, 10:49
EDITED: Deleted because I guess I should give this person a fair hearing. (Even though my money is on troll).

I was wondering why you posted DP :lol:

Bankotsu
19th March 2010, 10:50
If the entire human race is of one skin colour, that still won't end class conflict.

Crusade
19th March 2010, 10:52
If the entire human race is of one skin colour, that still won't end class conflict.

I guess someone could confuse the "capitalism causes racism" thing with "racism causes capitalism".

¿Que?
19th March 2010, 10:55
I was wondering why you posted DP :lol:
Yes, because my initial reaction was some stormfront guy and I would pay money to see a discussion on stormfront over that particular video (really mainly just the first part).

Although in a way, stormfront should love it since it reinforces all the stereotypes of young black men as criminals.

On DP: Sometimes, I just don't know. I find their constant use of the "n" word a little bothersome sometimes. But some of their songs are really good, particularly the instrumentation.

OK, I will not derail this post.

Revy
19th March 2010, 10:59
Im a White Male who supports Race Mixing. I want the Human Race to become one skin color only than will we be united and ready for a Socialist world so I would love to see more Black Men with White Women because I want a one race world. I can see beauty in all races of Women. You may think Im not kidding but Im not I really do support race mixing because of my politics and I don't care if Black Men date White Women I think White Men should date Non White Women. I would love to see a World where we look at each other as Human Beings and not as different races. In my opinion race does not exist. Anyone else here support Race Mixing ? I think Race Mixing is one way to fight Fascism.

People should be free to date/marry/love any person they want regardless of ethnicity or gender. But I think some of what you said here is kind of ridiculous.

I know people say that if everyone were the same skin color in a distant future there would be no racism. I mean, really. To think we have to be all the same in order to get rid of prejudice? Racism shouldn't exist at all in the present. We can still look at each other as human beings but yet have vastly different skin colors.

I see nothing wrong with an ethnically mixed world. One of the basics of my philosophy is world unity and abolition of borders and the arbitrary divisions that divide us as humans.

¿Que?
19th March 2010, 11:10
People should be free to date/marry/love any person they want regardless of ethnicity or gender. But I think some of what you said here is kind of ridiculous.

I know people say that if everyone were the same skin color in a distant future there would be no racism. I mean, really. To think we have to be all the same in order to get rid of prejudice? Racism shouldn't exist at all in the present. We can still look at each other as human beings but yet have vastly different skin colors.

I see nothing wrong with an ethnically mixed world. One of the basics of my philosophy is world unity and abolition of borders and the arbitrary divisions that divide us as humans.

Actually, I have posted a slightly more sophisticated version of what I believe to be the point of the OP here:
http://www.revleft.com/vb/difference-and-inequality-t131395/index.html

If anyone would like to respond, I'll give thanks (I don't know what the policy is on bribing for responses with thanks but if it's frowned upon I will not give thanks).

Dimentio
19th March 2010, 11:20
I don't ever think all human beings would have the same appearance. Environment would still affect people. Just look at Australian farmers who have lived in the desert for generations - they have started to attain darker pigmentation despite of the "White Australia Policy" of the 20th century.

Crusade
19th March 2010, 11:23
I don't ever think all human beings would have the same appearance. Environment would still affect people. Just look at Australian farmers who have lived in the desert for generations - they have started to attain darker pigmentation despite of the "White Australia Policy" of the 20th century.

Really good point.

RGacky3
19th March 2010, 11:45
Hoenstly who cares, I could care less if people race mixed or not, the fact that people look differently is not the cause of racism.

red cat
19th March 2010, 13:28
I don't ever think all human beings would have the same appearance. Environment would still affect people. Just look at Australian farmers who have lived in the desert for generations - they have started to attain darker pigmentation despite of the "White Australia Policy" of the 20th century.

I think that by the time we attain communism, become more dependent on technology and are free to choose any occupation or place of residence, people will have more or less the same physical features.

The Essence Of Flame Is The Essence Of Change
19th March 2010, 14:14
I think that by the time we attain communism, become more dependent on technology and are free to choose any occupation or place of residence, people will have more or less the same physical features.

Uhm, what, hello?How and why is communism going to make people more dependent on technology?:confused:

Havet
19th March 2010, 14:16
the fact that people look differently is not the cause of racism.

My experience with SFers would reveal the opposite

red cat
19th March 2010, 14:18
Uhm, what, hello?How and why is communism going to make people more dependent on technology?:confused:

That is a natural tendency of the human civilization. Communism will make technology available to all and also hasten scientific development.

danyboy27
19th March 2010, 14:22
I oppose race mixing.

racist and bigot are restricted, ejoy your ban.

Bankotsu
19th March 2010, 15:13
Very well. I accept that. Please delete all the posts starting from danyboy25's 20th post in this thread.

Jazzratt, please delete danyboy25's provocative post against me. Thank you.

Lord Testicles
19th March 2010, 15:27
Uhm, what, hello?How and why is communism going to make people more dependent on technology?:confused:

To add to what red cat has already said.
I don't know about you, but I like the idea of eventually abolishing work and having a higher standard of living whilst I'm at it, which naturally mean more dependence on technology.

Patchd
19th March 2010, 15:36
Uhm, what, hello?How and why is communism going to make people more dependent on technology?:confused:
Communism can only be achieved with the abolishment of mandatory labour, how can you achieve this without technological development?

Jazzratt
19th March 2010, 15:41
God damn it you two rogues, leave something for me to say :lol:

Bankotsu
19th March 2010, 15:41
Jazzratt, why didn't you delete danyboy25's post?

Bankotsu
19th March 2010, 15:49
racist and bigot are restricted, ejoy your ban.

I don't understand your post danyboy25.

Please make your points clearer.

Jazzratt
19th March 2010, 15:52
I don't understand your post danyboy25.

Please make your points clearer.

You said somethiong racist, we generally ban racists. He was pre-empting our banning you.

Bankotsu
19th March 2010, 15:53
You said somethiong racist, we generally ban racists. He was pre-empting our banning you.

What did I say that was racist?

danyboy25's post is very provocative and I didn't insult him or anyone, so please delete danyboy25's insulting post. Thank you.

danyboy25 was the one who started the trouble and insults, not me.

Lord Testicles
19th March 2010, 15:54
God damn it you two rogues, leave something for me to say :lol:

I'm actually a lvl 13 Druid.


I don't understand your post danyboy25.


I think it is because you said you opposed race mixing ergo he expects you to be banned.

Bankotsu
19th March 2010, 15:57
I think it is because you said you opposed race mixing ergo he expects you to be banned.

Is there something wrong with opposing race mixing?

red cat
19th March 2010, 15:57
Is there something wrong with opposing race mixing?

Yes there is. It is racism.

Jazzratt
19th March 2010, 16:01
I'm actually a lvl 13 Druid.

You're still a scoundrel in my book.


What did I say that was racist?

If you are genuinely too thick to understand that opposing "race mixing" is racism of the highest order then you deserve the boot, sonny jim.

tradeunionsupporter
19th March 2010, 17:52
Look I prefer White Women I just can't help it but all White Women won't go away from the Planet Earth in my lifetime so why should I care ? I believe Global Warming Climate Change is going to destroy life on Earth anyway.

red cat
19th March 2010, 17:58
Look I prefer White Women I just can't help it but all White Women won't go away from the Planet Earth in my lifetime so why should I care ? I believe Global Warming Climate Change is going to destroy life on Earth anyway.

That is your personal choice :lol:

syndicat
19th March 2010, 21:42
I think that having friends and loving relationships across the color line does help to break down the tendency, at least in the USA, towards segregation and white supremacist mentality. It's not adequate by itself, but it helps. For one thing, a unified working class movement requires more interaction and sharing of views between people from different backgrounds within the working class, between men and women, different "racialized" groups. What "race" means in the USA is not merely that people are from different ethnic groups, but that a particular group is stigmatized as inferior, to justify worse treatment.

mikelepore
19th March 2010, 22:06
What "race" means in the USA is not merely that people are from different ethnic groups, but that a particular group is stigmatized as inferior, to justify worse treatment.

Where did you get that meaning from? The federal law (13 USC 7) pertaining to the U.S. Census Bureau requires every individual to check a box to indicate their membership in a specific list of so-called races: Native Hawaiian, Pacific Islander, Alaska Native, etc. They seem to believe that these names refer to sets of biological properties.

tradeunionsupporter
20th March 2010, 01:22
Im not saying I want all White people to mix I in fact prefer White women I have no idea why Im just saying that race mixing is a good thing.

Dimentio
20th March 2010, 02:11
Lock this thread before it degenerates...

Bud Struggle
20th March 2010, 02:17
You know--all this "social engineering" of race mixing/not race mixing really misses the point of a being human. People should have babies with people they fall in love with and have a commitment towards. If race or national origin or ethnicity figures into the sociological equation AT ALL there is definitely something smacking of the Fascist involved. It shouldn't be society's business who marries who. Society should exert no social pressure for or against any sort of unions.

Now if a certain individual like blondes or brown skinned people or whatever--that's just how human attraction works, but society proper should voice no opinion or exert no influence on anyone's romantic activities or desire to produce children.

Dimentio
20th March 2010, 02:23
You know--all this "social engineering" of race mixing/not race mixing really misses the point of a being human. People should have babies with people they fall in love with and have a commitment towards. If race or national origin or ethnicity figures into the sociological equation AT ALL there is definitely something smacking of the Fascist involved. It shouldn't be society's business who marries who. Society should exert no social pressure for or against any sort of unions.

Now if a certain individual like blondes or brown skinned people or whatever--that's just how human attraction works, but society proper should voice no opinion or exert no influence on anyone's romantic activities or desire to produce children.

One rep point awarded.

syndicat
20th March 2010, 02:32
lepore:
Where did you get that meaning from? The federal law (13 USC 7) pertaining to the U.S. Census Bureau requires every individual to check a box to indicate their membership in a specific list of so-called races: Native Hawaiian, Pacific Islander, Alaska Native, etc. They seem to believe that these names refer to sets of biological properties.

If that were true, they should ask for some proof of biological properties. but they don't. as is well known, "race" doesn't exist as a biological category. It's a myth. The genetic variation between socalled "races" is vastly less than that within socalled "races." "Race" in the modern sense was developed as a theory to justify the colonial, genocidal and enslaving practices of European colonizers and their settler states.

False pseudo-scientific theories of biological "race" were created between the 1700s and 1900s for this purpose. But the practices of mistreatment and stigmatizing of groups, treating some groups worse, was real, and there are inherited disadvantages or advantages that different groups have because of this. So race as a social category is a reality.

Timebomb
20th March 2010, 20:27
One colour or race means those who would be racists would have to find a new hate hobby.

gorillafuck
20th March 2010, 23:17
I want the Human Race to become one skin color
That's a bizarre thing to strive for.

Physicist
20th March 2010, 23:23
Uh, skin pigmentation would still vary even if we were all a mix of Asian/Caucasian/African/American Aborigines...

Comrade Anarchist
21st March 2010, 00:30
Your stupid and racist. Alright maybe not racist but still stupid. Color means absolutely nothing. To bring up the idea of race mixing and creating one race is to recognize race. If people love each other and they are of two different races than i don't give a shit. I don't give a shit about race. White, black, brown, red, yellow, they are just creations to separate us and i don't really see them in the sense of a "race". The ultimate view we should have of people obviously should have nothing to do with color, b/c it says nothing to whether they will work hard or not.

syndicat
21st March 2010, 08:26
Your stupid and racist. Alright maybe not racist but still stupid. Color means absolutely nothing. To bring up the idea of race mixing and creating one race is to recognize race. If people love each other and they are of two different races than i don't give a shit. I don't give a shit about race. White, black, brown, red, yellow, they are just creations to separate us and i don't really see them in the sense of a "race". The ultimate view we should have of people obviously should have nothing to do with color, b/c it says nothing to whether they will work hard or not.

That's all well and good except that your favored system, capitalism, tends to perpetuate racism and "race-consciousness." That's because the employers gain when workers are divided and can't form effective organizations and movements to resist and strike and obtain a better deal.

Through the use of favoritism, hiring whites for better jobs and so on, it encourages disunity. This strengthens the hand of management. Also, if certain groups can be treated worse and have fewer options, they can be paid less.

Ovi
21st March 2010, 10:54
I don't support 'race mixing' because I don't believe in races. Everyone should be free to choose whatever suits them, love whoever they want and have whatever sexual preferences without being stigmatized by some narrow minded individuals. And what's so good about everyone having the same skin color? We should support diversity, not conformity or uniformity. It only feeds the trolls who say that communists want everyone to wear the same clothes and do the same things in order do be equal. Not to mention that we have different needs and different wants. We will always be different from each other in sexual preferences, gender, language, favorite sports, hobbies, whatever. However there's no reason that should stop us from uniting against capitalism and building a world in common.

Outinleftfield
21st March 2010, 11:26
We're not ever going to all have the same skin color.

As long as the right genes are there random combinations will sometimes produce very dark people and very light people. Just like eye color mixing hasn't eliminated differences in eye color skin color mixing won't eliminate differences in skin color.