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Black Sheep
18th March 2010, 16:15
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/north-korea-executes-official-for-bungling-currency-reform-report/article1504206/


Seoul, South Korea
The Associated Press Published on Thursday, Mar. 18, 2010 5:55AM EDT Last updated on Thursday, Mar. 18, 2010 6:05AM EDT

North Korea executed a former senior official last week as punishment for the country's botched currency reform, a news report said Thursday.
In November, North Korea redenominated its currency as part of efforts to lower inflation and reassert control over the country's nascent market economy. However, the measure reportedly worsened the country's food situation by forcing the closing of markets and sparked anger among many North Koreans left with piles of worthless bills.
Pak Nam Gi, the ruling Workers' Party finance and planning department chief who spearheaded the currency reform, was executed by a firing squad in Pyongyang last week, South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported, citing unidentified sources.
Mr. Pak was accused of ruining the nation's economy in a blunder that also damaged public opinion and had a negative impact on leader Kim Jong Il's plan to hand power over to his youngest son, Yonhap said.
Citing its sources, Yonhap said many North Koreans believe the government used Mr. Pak as a scapegoat for the failed currency reform.
Park Sang-hak, a North Korean defector in Seoul who is a key organizer of a campaign to send anti-government leaflets into the North, said a contact there told him in a recent telephone conversation that there were rumors Pak was either executed or sent to a political prison.
Despite tough restrictions, some North Koreans are able to communicate with the outside world using Chinese cellphone networks, according to defectors.
North Korea has reopened hundreds of markets since the botched reform, but the prices of the few goods available have continued to rise, according to Lee Seung-yong, an official of Good Friends, a Buddhist-affiliated group that sends food and other aid to the North.
South Korea's Unification Ministry and National Intelligence Service — its main spy agency — said they could not confirm Mr. Pak's reported execution.
Mr. Pak was last mentioned by the North's official Korean Central News Agency in January when he accompanied Mr. Kim on an inspection trip. Mr. Kim sacked Mr. Pak following arguments within the country's leadership over who should take responsibility for the currency fiasco, South Korean media reported last month.
It is not unprecedented for the communist government to execute officials for policy failures.
In the 1990s, North Korea publicly executed a top agricultural official following widespread starvation, Mr. Park said.
The North faces chronic food shortages and has relied on outside assistance to feed much of its population since a famine believed to have killed as many as 2 million people in the 1990s.
North Korea is regarded as having one of the world's worst human rights records with public executions, camps for political prisoners and torture.

Vladimir Innit Lenin
19th March 2010, 01:04
Wonderful.

Still, in the name of anti-imperialism, needs must, eh?:rolleyes:

Qayin
19th March 2010, 04:53
HOW DAER U CRITIZE NORTH KOREA U TROTSKY PETIT-BOURGEOSIE ANARCHIZ blah blah blah fuck north korea and there "leftist" appeasers

Nolan
19th March 2010, 04:56
I smell propaganda. Don't jump to conclusions.

What were their sources again? :rolleyes:

Revy
19th March 2010, 04:59
It's like when Stalin was poisoned by the guy who he put in charge of the purges, Beria. Even the people in charge (even Kim Jong-il!) can't be sure they are safe from the state terror they are a part of. This was the WPK finance and planning chief, pretty important guy, high up there in the fake socialist system. For all we know, blood could be on his hands.

Sam Da Communist
19th March 2010, 05:08
If this is true it's pretty sad, but Could this be some sort of corruption issue that the western media is sensationalising?

Bright Banana Beard
19th March 2010, 07:03
A great proletarian source :rolleyes:

vyborg
19th March 2010, 09:38
Corruption is rampant in NK as in any stalinist regime. Thats why the high hierarchy is compelled to shoot someone every now and then to appease the masses

Revy
19th March 2010, 09:59
Corruption is rampant in NK as in any stalinist regime. Thats why the high hierarchy is compelled to shoot someone every now and then to appease the masses

I don't think it has anything to do with "appeasing the masses".

vyborg
19th March 2010, 10:08
and of course to terrorize the bureacracy itself

Black Sheep
21st March 2010, 11:54
A great proletarian source :rolleyes:
You're right.The only legitimate source for that matter would be the NK foreign relations dept.

Bandito
21st March 2010, 11:57
Oh the hell with news on North Korea.

Anybody who thinks it's "marxist-leninist" to be a supporter of Juche is sadly mistaken.

Black Sheep
21st March 2010, 12:07
Anybody who thinks it's "marxist-leninist" to be a supporter of Juche is sadly mistaken. I'd say: 'Anybody who thinks it's "marxist-leninist" to be a supporter of anti-imperialism in general, is sadly mistaken.

Bandito
21st March 2010, 22:18
That's right, but I'd say North Korea fascination has more to do with people who associate marxism-leninism with uniforms, military parades and such utter bullshit. I'm really tired of pointing out that marxism-leninism is a contemporary theory that has nothing to do with North Korea and Soviet WW2 posters, but modern day problems and battles that are ought to be fought.
By the way, North Korea "officially" abandoned marxism-leninism a while ago, so, kids, no need to be amazed by Kim anymore. Fuck off.

About what you said about anti-imperialsm, bulk sheep, you are 100% right.
I have to fight the fools who defend Slobodan Milosevic as an anti-imperialist every day. It doesn't matter that I lived under that nationalist douchebag who suppressed everything that is left and progressive, all it matters is that he was "anti-imperialist" in the eyes of some first world middle class wanna-be inteligentsia schmuck.

Wanted Man
21st March 2010, 23:06
Wonderful.

Still, in the name of anti-imperialism, needs must, eh?:rolleyes:


HOW DAER U CRITIZE NORTH KOREA U TROTSKY PETIT-BOURGEOSIE ANARCHIZ blah blah blah fuck north korea and there "leftist" appeasers

Nobody's saying anything like that, yet these are the first two responses. Curious. Why would you want to troll on an internet forum over a dead man's back?

InuyashaKnight
21st March 2010, 23:24
Oh the hell with news on North Korea.

Anybody who thinks it's "marxist-leninist" to be a supporter of Juche is sadly mistaken.

In there charter thingy, as of 2010 they have removed all references to Communism,Marxism etc.

punisa
21st March 2010, 23:29
I don't think it has anything to do with "appeasing the masses".

hmmm.. I disagree. I believe the masses love to see some dead bodies now and then.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this is good, I'm just saying masses love blood from time to time, especially when times get hard.

Woland
22nd March 2010, 00:08
I hope North Korea stays just the way it is and never, ever changes.

punisa
22nd March 2010, 00:32
I hope North Korea stays just the way it is and never, ever changes.

I think what comrade Woland actually meant was : let's hope that Juche ideology spreads throughout the whole solar system and beyond :lol:

AK
22nd March 2010, 08:23
I hope North Korea stays just the way it is and never, ever changes.
Now it must be asked, were you dropped on the head as a baby?

Bandito
22nd March 2010, 16:58
I hope North Korea stays just the way it is and never, ever changes.
Move there and enjoy the freedom.

Black Sheep
22nd March 2010, 18:55
I hope North Korea stays just the way it is and never, ever changes.
You mean with the huge shortages, lack of energy, no workers' democracy, nationalist and wirshiping a general secretary /demigod?

Yeah, i feel yah mean mate.

RedScare
22nd March 2010, 19:11
I think you guys are missing the internet sarcasm.....

Bandito
22nd March 2010, 19:31
I sure hope it is...

KELNOR THE OVERWASP
23rd March 2010, 16:24
There's nothing inconsistent in supporting the existence and self-defense of the DPRK while strongly criticising and even condemning her leadership. A comparison with Iran seems appropriate - I doubt anyone here supports the criminalisation of homosexuality of government by priests, but nonetheless I guess most here would strongly oppose the overthrow of the Iranian government by anything other than a firmly left-revolutionary movement. It's a similar deal with the DPRK.

I suggest that Mao's "On Contradiction" and the experience of China in general has something to say here - if you can temporarily ally with a national bourgeoisie against a comprador bourgeoisie and a fascist invasion then I think it follows that you can ally with the DPRK - and doing so doesn't necessarily mean you love Kim Jong-Il any more than Mao's policy meant he loved the bourgeoisie.

The Author
23rd March 2010, 16:58
I don't agree with everything that goes on in North Korea or most of its policies, but some of the criticisms of this country, even from MLs, tend to be flimsy as hell.

For instance, there's not a lot of concrete empirical data (actually, as I think about it, almost nothing) like population statistics, income, quality of living, actual accounts of people living there (defectors do not count for obvious political reasons), economic standards, management of enterprises and farms, management of properties, how the political system works, etc. Yeah, there's the Kim cult which I despise, but come up with more people because I'm not terribly fucking impressed with these criticisms.

KELNOR THE OVERWASP
23rd March 2010, 17:02
Frustratingly I can't find it again but there was a UN report sometime in the last few years saying that the average North Korean gets more calories a day than than the average Thai. One thing I can say - I strongly doubt that young children in the north are ever made to get cosmetic surgery but I know from experience that they frequently are in the south.

Black Sheep
24th March 2010, 04:18
I don't agree with everything that goes on in North Korea or most of its policies, but some of the criticisms of this country, even from MLs, tend to be flimsy as hell.

For instance, there's not a lot of concrete empirical data (actually, as I think about it, almost nothing) like population statistics, income, quality of living, actual accounts of people living there (defectors do not count for obvious political reasons), economic standards, management of enterprises and farms, management of properties, how the political system works, etc. Yeah, there's the Kim cult which I despise, but come up with more people because I'm not terribly fucking impressed with these criticisms.
You can defend the will and effort of North Korea's people to fight for socialism or for something else in the past, better than capitalism, but ffs, don't rationalize today's situation in NK.

AK
24th March 2010, 06:11
You can defend the will and effort of North Korea's people to fight for socialism or for something else in the past, better than capitalism, but ffs, don't rationalize today's situation in NK.
I agree. Justifying the north is like political suicide for any good socialist today.

Qayin
24th March 2010, 11:57
Nobody's saying anything like that, yet these are the first two responses. Curious. Why would you want to troll on an internet forum over a dead man's back?

You fucking serious. It was geared toward those "anti-revisionists" who defend this despotic regime and continue to do on other threads.