I'm looking for a book..

[ContrarianLemming]

hey
I'm looking for a book which i saw in a few bookshops, though i've forgotten it's name. The book itself is not important, but it's subject was facinating, it was about how manager's and supervisor's do not exist to maximise efficiancy, but to keep emplyees in check, beaten down and feeling weak etc.
I think it sounds quite interesting, i don't take it as a given that this is true, it's not a neccesary belief to be a socialist, but i think it would simply strenghten my beliefs that workers self magament is best for all.

So would anyone like to suggest a book about this tpoic to me? anything like it?

[el_chavista]

hey
... it was about how manager's and supervisor's do not exist to maximise efficiancy, but to keep emplyees in check, beaten down and feeling weak etc.
I think it sounds quite interesting, i don't take it as a given that this is true, it's not a neccesary belief to be a socialist, but i think it would simply strenghten my beliefs that workers self magament is best for all.

It is exactly the roll of the petty bourgeoisie, including foremen and guards.

[ContrarianLemming]

It is exactly the roll of the petty bourgeoisie, including foremen and guards.

i want to be able to prove this, not just with far leftist rhetoric that sounds like it's from the 19th century (we still say bourgeoisie?)

[ZombieGrits]

try here, hope this helps

http://www.akpress.org/2005/topics/work

[Buffalo Souljah]

What's wrong with churches, ZombieGrits?

[Die Rote Fahne]

hey
I'm looking for a book which i saw in a few bookshops, though i've forgotten it's name. The book itself is not important, but it's subject was facinating, it was about how manager's and supervisor's do not exist to maximise efficiancy, but to keep emplyees in check, beaten down and feeling weak etc.
I think it sounds quite interesting, i don't take it as a given that this is true, it's not a neccesary belief to be a socialist, but i think it would simply strenghten my beliefs that workers self magament is best for all.

So would anyone like to suggest a book about this tpoic to me? anything like it?


I believe that's called reality.

[el_chavista]

i want to be able to prove this, not just with far leftist rhetoric that sounds like it's from the 19th century (we still say bourgeoisie?)
Yeah, we still are studying Marxism:



Our epoch, the epoch of the bourgeoisie, possesses, however, this distinct feature: it has simplified class antagonisms. Society as a whole is more and more splitting up into two great hostile camps, into two great classes directly facing each other — Bourgeoisie and Proletariat.

This may have been the case initially, but is no longer the case. The continued agreement with the anachronistic view above, as if it applied to the entire duration of the capitalist mode of production, is reductionist thinking. Later in the Manifesto, Marx mentions the petit-bourgeoisie, but the application of the old definition to modern times would make the petit-bourgeoisie look like some sort of “miscellaneous” class, ranging from small business owners to managers to intellectuals to police officers. Nevertheless, the foundation behind Marx’s class analysis, production, should be used as the starting point in analyzing modern class relations.