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chimx
16th March 2010, 21:51
In an effort to increase pressure on Democrats to vote for the health care bill, Andy Stern, president of the Service Employees International Union, warned on Monday that his powerful union would back some independent candidates this fall against House Democrats who vote against the bill.

In an interview, Mr. Stern said his union was making preparations to support independent candidates in New York, Illinois and Pennsylvania in case various House Democrats in those states vote against the health care legislation that President Obama is pushing.

Mr. Stern said that his union was likely to back an independent against Representative Michael McMahon, a Democrat representing Staten Island, who won with considerable help from the union. Mr. Stern said that Mr. McMahon has told union officials that he would vote against the bill.

“If health care goes down and there are people who promised our members that they were going to vote for health care reform – which for our members is a huge issue – if they aren’t going to stand up for what they said they were gong to do, they shouldn’t be going back to Washington,” Mr. Stern said.

His remarks were one of the opening salvos Democrats are making this week to keep the pressure on to get the health care bill passed in the House by the end of this week. Thirty-nine House Democrats voted against the bill in November.

Mr. Stern voiced dismay that in many Congressional districts, it was too late to “hold them accountable” by supporting a challenger in a Democrat primary because the filing deadlines had already passed in many states.

“We’ll run candidates who talk about how this Congressman voted on an issue that matters to us and how they let us down,” Mr. Stern said.

Mr. Stern said he recognized that some Democrats might vote against the health care bill because they were worried that if they back it, that might upset so many independents and Republicans that it might cost them their seats. But Mr. Stern warned Democrats that the independents his union supports might garner 10 percent of the vote in the general election, and that could cause the targeted House Democrat to lose.

Like Richard Trumka, the new president of the A.F.L.-C.I.O., Mr. Stern has talked increasingly about the importance of having unions hold Democrats accountable instead of automatically giving them labor’s backing.

In the most visible example of that, many labor unions have endorsed and given money to a Democratic challenger to Senator Blanche Lincoln, an Arkansas Democrat, because they are disappointed with her position on health and labor legislation. The service employees union and several others have pledged $1 million each to the state’s labor-friendly lieutenant governor, Bill Halter.

“What you saw with Blanche Lincoln is an expression of how disappointed people are in the last year about what has happened with issues that are important to Americans who work,” Mr. Stern said. “I don’t think this is the end. Arkansas is the tip of the iceberg.”

After learning that Mr. McMahon would vote against the health legislation, the S.E.I.U.’s largest local unit, 1199/SEIU, United Healthcare Workers East, issued a statement saying, “We cannot continue supporting incumbents who fail to vote with the president and Democratic leadership to advance the interests of working families on issues such as healthcare reform, financial industry regulation and immigration reform.”

In addition, the Working Families Party, which often had an independent line in New York State that helped funnel union members into voting for Democratic candidates, said it would not back Mr. McMahon this November.

“We will not support anyone who votes no on such important legislation,” said Daniel Cantor, the party’s executive director.

SOURCE (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/15/union-chief-threatens-to-back-independent-candidates-against-democrats-who-oppose-health-care-bill/?pagemode=print)

syndicat
16th March 2010, 22:10
Unfortunately Stern and SEIU are not supporters of single payer, so in this case Stern is acting as a shill for the big capitalist insurers who will be the primary beneficiaries of the current health care bill. This is another example of the class collaboration followed by SEIU under Stern's watch.

chimx
17th March 2010, 00:45
Stern/SEIU as well as the CNA and other healthcare unions have in the past advocated for a single-payer healthcare program. They are now advocating simply for a public option I believe, probably for pragmatic reasons. I don't see how you can confuse political pragmatism and collaboration.

blake 3:17
17th March 2010, 22:44
Stern is effed up, but a split from the DP backed by a large official union could be good. The Canadian Auto Workers made similar breaks and slided left and right. My impression is that Stern is an authoritarian, not unlike the former CAW president.

I'd heard negative things about the WFP before from the Left, but I don't know.

Red Rebel
19th March 2010, 02:18
There is a lot (really A LOT) of stuff we can criticize unions in the US about. But getting a major union like the SEIU to break their ties with the Democrats and seek candidates that are "in their interest" would be a major step forward.

chimx
19th March 2010, 02:29
I doubt if this will really be a break with the Democrats, just certain Democrats. And unions have in the passed broken with the party and refused to endorse candidates.

Durruti's Ghost
19th March 2010, 04:40
Stern/SEIU as well as the CNA and other healthcare unions have in the past advocated for a single-payer healthcare program. They are now advocating simply for a public option I believe, probably for pragmatic reasons. I don't see how you can confuse political pragmatism and collaboration.

Unfortunately, the health care bill that's currently being tossed around Congress--that is to say, the one that the SEIU would be pressuring the Democrats to support--has no public option. This means that the health care bill will effectively act as nothing more than a law that forces every American citizen to buy private health insurance and cuts Medicare to boot. The bill is worse than useless, it's regressive. If the SEIU leadership really had the interests of the working class in mind, it would be pressuring Democrats to oppose the bill.

syndicat
19th March 2010, 06:25
I don't believe Stern has ever supported single payer. The reason has to do with his "partnership" deal-making with various capitalist health care and HMO firms. I don't see Stern's move as meaning a break with the Democrats towards an independent labor politics.

chimx
19th March 2010, 06:40
I don't believe Stern has ever supported single payer. The reason has to do with his "partnership" deal-making with various capitalist health care and HMO firms. I don't see Stern's move as meaning a break with the Democrats towards an independent labor politics.

You can search the SEIU's site for press releases from last year where they supported single payer health care.

chimx
19th March 2010, 06:41
Unfortunately, the health care bill that's currently being tossed around Congress--that is to say, the one that the SEIU would be pressuring the Democrats to support--has no public option. This means that the health care bill will effectively act as nothing more than a law that forces every American citizen to buy private health insurance and cuts Medicare to boot. The bill is worse than useless, it's regressive. If the SEIU leadership really had the interests of the working class in mind, it would be pressuring Democrats to oppose the bill.

While I don't particularly like the bill, you are taking a particularly cynical viewpoint.

Durruti's Ghost
19th March 2010, 06:53
While I don't particularly like the bill, you are taking a particularly cynical viewpoint.

Maybe. I wish there was something in the bill that I could point to and say, "Look, this would be an improvement!" In fact, that's exactly what I did back when the public option was still on the table. Now that it isn't, though, I'm not sure there's anything left in the bill that's worth supporting.