NecroCommie goes Jailbird! [Archive]

NecroCommie

10th March 2010, 19:38

Yeah! That's right! A sentence of 52 days starts tomorrow afternoon (11.3.2010) In case someone missed it, an anarchist friend of mine persuaded me to make a statement by refusing to serve an illegal regime (white finland) either via armed service or civilian service.

No worries, the sentece is as easy as hell. It's in an open detention center where I get a job and I can just slouch off during the evenings in my personal quarters. It is nothing compared to what conscientious objectors have to face elsewhere. I do not however have anykind of internet connection, and I am therefor off-line for a bit under two months. I have no idea whether I have holidays off or not (most people do).

Until then, cheers!

NecroCommie

10th March 2010, 19:40

Oh! I will complete my dream that I've had a few years now. I will glue several pieces of soap on the shower-room floor. :D

RHIZOMES

10th March 2010, 19:45

Hell yeah conscientious objection, I find that quite admirable. I haven't had to give anything up due to my leftism, I've had it easy.

red cat

10th March 2010, 19:47

Hats off !

cb9's_unity

10th March 2010, 20:37

Your reputation power should now be over 9000:lol:

In all seriousness though, I hope the sentence isn't too bad. I'm lucky to have no legal mandate to serve the U.S.

Comrade B

10th March 2010, 21:05

man, way to show me up... I had to fill out the draft card stuff so that I could get financial aid.

Tablo

10th March 2010, 21:22

I had to fill out a draft form in order to apply to college. :/
If they try and draft me I'm leaving the country.

scarletghoul

10th March 2010, 21:26

Good luck comrade ! Hope it's as nice as you say it is..

Il Medico

10th March 2010, 21:32

man, way to show me up... I had to fill out the draft card stuff so that I could get financial aid.
Yeah. I think everyone one has to fill those out. But they won't take me, at least not right now. I tell. ;)

Comrade Gwydion

10th March 2010, 21:51

Best of luck comrade, You have my respect.

NecroCommie

10th March 2010, 22:01

I had to fill out a draft form in order to apply to college. :/
If they try and draft me I'm leaving the country.
If you do so, you will have a place to stay at my place, assuming that I have a place at that given time. (I just lived 7 months at my own apartment, I'm living at my parents again right now and after the summer I need an apartment for another year... studies) Honestly, you can quote me on that one.

And to all others. Thanks dudes and dudettes! But I honestly think it's going to be more like a holiday from all that studying... I've seen some... documentaries...

Oh! And imagine the symbolism! I will be set free on may day!

Invincible Summer

10th March 2010, 22:23

Take care man. Regale us with tales of your misadventures when you return!

The Ben G

10th March 2010, 22:54

Have fun! But in all seriousness, Words cannot express what Im feeling right know. You have my overwhelming respect.

gorillafuck

10th March 2010, 22:59

Nice on conscientious objection. That's really cool.

And nice on having a very lenient sentence compared to a lot of other countries.

Lyev

10th March 2010, 23:08

Wow, massive respect comrade. Taking a hit like that for your views is very admirable.

Sasha

11th March 2010, 00:42

respect, hang tight and we hope to see you soon again.
maybe if your bored you can keep a short diary and post it here when your out again...

Black Sheep

11th March 2010, 01:40

Here consciensious objectors are considered common criminals and it's jail for them traitors!

Hang in there Necro.

11th March 2010, 02:07

:thumbup1:

Good luck.

Audeamus

11th March 2010, 02:59

Mad props dude, best of luck to you.

man, way to show me up... I had to fill out the draft card stuff so that I could get financial aid.

Yeah selective service is a *****. :thumbdown:

Tablo

11th March 2010, 04:52

If you do so, you will have a place to stay at my place, assuming that I have a place at that given time. (I just lived 7 months at my own apartment, I'm living at my parents again right now and after the summer I need an apartment for another year... studies) Honestly, you can quote me on that one.
That is really cool of you!
It is unlikely I will get drafted. While the US is still heavily militarized there is still a lot of hate towards the draft here. They would only use it under extreme circumstances. If they do try to draft me I would love to chill with you in Finland. Sounds like fun to me. :thumbup1:

Good luck! :)

bcbm

11th March 2010, 04:56

stay strong! we'll be thinking of you

Guerrilla22

11th March 2010, 05:05

mad respect to you

Comrade B

11th March 2010, 05:11

but yeah, in all honesty, respect man.

Bright Banana Beard

11th March 2010, 07:29

Strong Respect!

Pirate Utopian

11th March 2010, 08:58

I'll hop on the respect bandwagon and give you props for doing this.

eyedrop

11th March 2010, 10:02

Props to choosing the time-saving way :):p

NecroCommie

11th March 2010, 10:52

Props to choosing the time-saving way :):p
The judicial paper-war lasted for a year, during which it was hard to get any jobs due to uncertain dates. :(

Gasp! Only few more hours!

Chambered Word

11th March 2010, 11:09

They're seriously locking you up for not wanting to fight their fucking wars huh. You deserve alot of respect for this. Hang in there comrade and let us know how it went once you get back. :)

Sentinel

11th March 2010, 11:13

I did my military service in the finnish armed forces back in 1998. I thought it would be easier -- least trouble -- to just get it done as early as possible. Thus I volunteered at the age of 17 (I would do anything to get a break from school, heh).

I also thought I might learn something useful for life. Unfortunately the amount of valuable information taught there turned out to be pretty close to nil, zero, zip -- so in that aspect I was rather disappointed..

In retrospect I can say that those were 6 months of my life totally wasted for nothing. I turned 18 not in a comfy pub but in a tent in the snowclad woods.

I probably wouldn't do it again, and I'm glad they don't call on me to do the kertausharjoitukset as I live in Sweden.

RedAnarchist

11th March 2010, 12:45

Have a nice time :p

Seriously though, well done for taking the peaceful route and not going against your beliefs.

Rjevan

11th March 2010, 13:24

Good luck and hats off! :thumbup1:

NecroCommie

11th March 2010, 13:36

I'm going now! I'll take the last meal and then I'm off. Before I go however I'd like to share a nice incident regarding this matter.

Many finnish officials demand that you fill out your "position in a wartime organization" slot on numerous official papers. When I was asked my position for my student allowance I replied: "beaches of Brazil". Luckily the official had a sense of humour and translated the answer for the computer. :cool:

Sasha

11th March 2010, 14:15

Many finnish officials demand that you fill out your "position in a wartime organization" slot on numerous official papers. When I was asked my position for my student allowance I replied: "beaches of Brazil". Luckily the official had a sense of humour and translated the answer for the computer. :cool:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

goodluck, see you soon!

Sentinel

11th March 2010, 14:19

I replied: "beaches of Brazil".

Hehe! :) Goodluck to you.

Mälli

11th March 2010, 15:56

Respect! We will see what will I do with my military service. Not going to the army for sure!

NecroCommie

2nd May 2010, 07:15

Ok, I officially lose at life. I have been free for an hour and I am already posting at revleft and scouting the internet. After two months all this seems weird! But awesome too... :cool:

#FF0000

2nd May 2010, 07:20

Welcome out! :)

Did they let you out on May Day!? Hahaha

Mumbles

2nd May 2010, 07:44

Welcome back!

Did the soap stay glued to the floor?

Saorsa

2nd May 2010, 08:15

Welcome back comrade. Tell us what happened...

NecroCommie

2nd May 2010, 08:21

Welcome out! :)

Did they let you out on May Day!? Hahaha
No! And they let half the prison out the day after. I'm getting suspicious...

Did the soap stay glued to the floor?

Those cursed ingrates had liquid soap!

Tell us what happened...
I worked, watched TV, worked some more and then I watched alot of TV... prisons...

What I regret is that I missed the biggest wave of worker strikes since the 50's! :(

Sasha

2nd May 2010, 10:16

welcome back mate...:thumbup1:

Comrade B

2nd May 2010, 12:03

You stab anybody?

Sasha

2nd May 2010, 12:12

You stab anybody?

thats called shanking under cons, sheesh never went to jail huh square boy :lol:

Stand Your Ground

2nd May 2010, 15:21

Welcome back.

Chambered Word

2nd May 2010, 16:26

You stab anybody?

Yeah, was there much violence? How was the experience overall?

NecroCommie

2nd May 2010, 16:50

Boring. Working, then watching TV, then some more work and alot of TV.

But really, feelings were quite mixed. At the jail itself people were generally reasonable and polite. Nothing there. But as it happens, I was assigned to the same work group with a bunch of most vile and villainous cutthroat brawling murderers I have ever seen. I didn't feel as much threatened by this, as I felt pissed off. With that group there were only three allowed topics.

-How manly you have been
-How manly you are
-How manly you will be

Anything slightly outside these topics were answered with outright hostility. Luckily those guys were... how would I say... "Intellectually challenged". They constantly fantasized about violence, and were hellbent on converting me to christianity (with the daftest of arguments. American fundies would blush before such nonsense) Why is it that the most violent of idiots were always the most religious ones. Notice the lack of question mark at the end of last sentence.

Well, still the stereotype of violent murderers is just that: a stereotype. Don't judge inmates.

Chambered Word

2nd May 2010, 16:53

NecroCommie

2nd May 2010, 17:21

I did not actually tell, but they made conclusions from my Lenin pins and books by Marx and Lenin. They tried debating me at first, but admitted their utter humiliating defeat after few sessions. Dind't stop them from being racist assholes though.

Speaking of books, prison was an extreme cultural experience. During 52 days I read the following books completely:
-Digital frotress by Dan Brown
-Murder in Cormyr by Chet Williamson
-The ghost king by R.A. Salvatore
-Dracula by Bram Stoker
-Imperialism, highest stage of capitalism by Lenin
-A collection of articles and books on sectarianism and dogmatism by Lenin

And I also started a bit on Marx's capital. :cool:

Comrade B

2nd May 2010, 20:58

I was being sarcastic, minimum security usually isn't so bad, I used to live a couple blocks from the Washington State penitentiary, it goes down on lock down a lot, but movies still over do it. I can imagine it was a pretty fucking boring 2 months though, at least it gave you some time to get some readings in

Invincible Summer

2nd May 2010, 21:23

Glad to have you back. Did you get some hardcore prison gang tattoo on your forehead

Mumbles

2nd May 2010, 22:04

Why limit it to the forehead? I bet he got one across his whole face. Like from cheek to cheek across the nose and parts of it only show up when he keeps his eyes closed. :cool:

NecroCommie

2nd May 2010, 22:10

My tattoo is so obvious that I needed for a plastic surgeon to make me another face in order to attract the attention it deserves.

Morgenstern

2nd May 2010, 22:30

Major props Comrade. I salute you.

Axel1917

4th May 2010, 06:21

*EDIT* I should have paid attention and realized that the original post was made in March.

That is really cool of you!
It is unlikely I will get drafted. While the US is still heavily militarized there is still a lot of hate towards the draft here. They would only use it under extreme circumstances. If they do try to draft me I would love to chill with you in Finland. Sounds like fun to me.The working class would probably have to suffer some major defeats for the US government to get away with reinstating the draft. If that does happen (hopefully it won't), it won't happen anytime soon at the very least.

Chambered Word

4th May 2010, 09:29

-Dracula by Bram Stoker

I only got through about half/three-quarters of it for some reason but it's a great read. :cool:

DreamWeaver

4th May 2010, 15:17

My tattoo is so obvious that I needed for a plastic surgeon to make me another face in order to attract the attention it deserves.

No way is your tat hotter than this one:
http://www.realrecordz.nl/images/nieuws/3481020_661_1262955530546-nwfamsp.jpg

It even continues on the other side of his face :laugh:

http://cultuurkaart.poort80.net/content/img/redactioneel/afbeeldingen_in_items/muziek/l/links.jpg

Regardless, welcome back mate.