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[Invincible Summer]

So evidently that's the proper and more updated acronym for the queer community (as opposed to just LGBT).

Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Transexual, Intersex, Questioning, 2-Spirit.


Now, do you think that this "inclusiveness" is really just fragmenting society altogether? I understand the want to recognize people from all walks of life, but this is ridiculous. I dont' want to sound like I'm demeaning this community, but at what point does inclusiveness within the queer community exclude them from the rest of society? Instead of sympathizing with their plight, is it possible that most people will go "Wtf why is it 8 characters?" and not take them seriously?

[Crusade]

When I saw the thread title I actually thought you just mashed your keyboard a bunch of times. I think adding in the extra characters is unnecessary. They can be inclusive to the "extra" characters listed without adding them to the official name. LGBT is just fine, I think.

[whore]

i personally think that "queer" is fine, and that the other stuff is not needed to distinish between the "queer", "odd", "strange", "not-normal", "un-normal", "bent", "different" and the "straight", "hetro", "normal".

anyway, have a look at some other varients (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ#Variants), and read the entire article.

i disagree that trans* folks fight is different to that of non-trans* folk. we are all fighting against heteronormativity, and for recognition as people.

some people even include "hetro" "sexual devients", such as polyamorous people or those into bdsm, in the term "queer".

i like the term because of this all inclusiveness. fuck the normal, we are strange! (spreading radical and revolutionary ideas beyond economics, and into the bedroom. and kitchen. and bathroom. and certain public places. etc.)

[Revy]

LGBT is fine....

Transgender is broad enough to cover different gender categories. "trans" is a prefix from the Latin for "across, over and beyond".

Queer seems to be used often as a synonym for LGBT, so adding a Q would be redundant.

[Sendo]

Geez, just say "queer". I fucking hate acronyms. That and loanwords. That's why I love Chinese: they translate "telephone" as "electric-talk" and they can't do acronyms. I understand using acronyms for stuff like USA and UK which are common, but language is about communication, about getting ideas across. Keep it clear and simple; don't use double-speak, overly long words, weasel words, or acronyms only a select group will know. I can't imagine someone saying "Oh, but that bisexual man isn't 'queer'."

I didn't know what LGBT was for the longest time. I thought it was some type of sandwich until I was in my second year of college. I was only familiar with queer, gay (often used for both genders), lesbian, homo(sexual), bi(sexual), and a host of slurs. And I took queer to be inclusive from curious to bisexual to homosexual (and beyond maybe)

What the hell is two-spirit? Do they need to define every person on the planet, or can they*, like recommended in this page's comments, just realize they're fighting for gender/sexual equality for all?

Do anti-racist organizations need to articulate every ethnic group they defend? How about "Equality for African-Americans, Mestizos, Whites, Chinese, Moroccans,............" or "[email protected]"

[Physicist]

I thought it was some type of sandwich

:D

[Crusade]

:D

I had a similar reaction to that.

[MolotovLuv]

I think the struggle for each of the groups in the acronym is very different, and even within the gay community there is a type of bias between say being a gay male and being a transgender male so I think the point of LGBT is just to reinforce equal rights within their own community.

[Glenn Beck]

I think the struggle for each of the groups in the acronym is very different, and even within the gay community there is a type of bias between say being a gay male and being a transgender male so I think the point of LGBT is just to reinforce equal rights within their own community.

They are all very different, and yet they are being put under the same umbrella? Using an umbrella term that conflates sexual orientation with gender identity is coming dangerously close to rehabilitating the concept of "sexual inversion" imo. What about intersex and trans? I just don't see much commonality besides "violates traditional western gender norms".

I'd like to know who came up with this terminology and what their deal was.

[gorillafuck]

Geez, just say "queer". I fucking hate acronyms. That and loanwords. That's why I love Chinese: they translate "telephone" as "electric-talk" and they can't do acronyms. I understand using acronyms for stuff like USA and UK which are common, but language is about communication, about getting ideas across. Keep it clear and simple; don't use double-speak, overly long words, weasel words, or acronyms only a select group will know. I can't imagine someone saying "Oh, but that bisexual man isn't 'queer'."
So basically you want to group everything as "heterosexual and normative gendered" and "not heterosexual or normative gendered"?

Though sometimes I wonder why "lesbian" is a term. Heterosexuality in males and females don't have different terms for them so I don't understand why there are different terms for homosexual men and homosexual women. Is that for a reason?