Fascism

[Herobane]

When will Fascism be destroyed? In my area at least, it is on a stead rise. I was wondering what's the best way to go about finding other Marxists in my area who would be willing to help deal with this threat? And how does the struggle against Fascism tie in with the overall workers' struggle?

[Dermezel]

When will Fascism be destroyed? In my area at least, it is on a stead rise. I was wondering what's the best way to go about finding other Marxists in my area who would be willing to help deal with this threat? And how does the struggle against Fascism tie in with the overall workers' struggle?

As long as capitalism exists there will always be a chance for fascism to reappear in some form. The best way to find other Marxists is to go to the Universities or look on the internet. University students are the most likely to be leftist because they have the free time and resources to educate themselves. It is unfortunate, but so much education is dependent on material conditions. In general the internet is the most powerful tool available for the purposes of acquiring information and communicating. Just google for Marxist, Leftist, Socialist, Communist, I'd even say social Democratic or Anarchist groups in your area. You cannot be picky in this day and age because class consciousness is at an all time low. If you involve yourself with these groups however you must commit yourself to the uphill battle of educating them. I would suggest doing so by proving the scientifically established fact of the Centralization and Communication of Capital.


Marx claimed capital would centralize and accumulate (http://www.anonym.to/?http://www.gaiaonline.com/gaia/redirect.php?r=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.marxists.org%2Farc hive%2Fmarx%2Fworks%2F1867-c1%2Fch25.htm) over time, a claim which has been vindicated by several lines of empirical research and data:

http://www.endgame.org/primer-wealth.html (http://www.anonym.to/?http://www.gaiaonline.com/gaia/redirect.php?r=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.endgame.org%2Fprim er-wealth.html)

http://www.faculty.fairfield.edu/faculty/hodgson/Courses/so11/stratification/income&wealth.htm (http://www.anonym.to/?http://www.gaiaonline.com/gaia/redirect.php?r=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.faculty.fairfield. edu%2Ffaculty%2Fhodgson%2FCourses%2Fso11%2Fstratif ication%2Fincome%26wealth.htm)

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9503EFD8153EE033A25753C3A9679C94 6697D6CF (http://www.anonym.to/?http://www.gaiaonline.com/gaia/redirect.php?r=http%3A%2F%2Fquery.nytimes.com%2Fgs t%2Fabstract.html%3Fres%3D9503EFD8153EE033A25753C3 A9679C946697D6CF)

Print that. Print a brief description of Marx's theory, print the mountains of statistical and factual evidence. Everyone knows corporations are dominating the market anyways. Everyone knows the economy is centralized. But what they really need is vindication by scientific evidence, not just intuition. They need it explained and proven for it to be truly convincing.

The only alternative economic theory is marginal utility, which is admitted to be untestable:

http://anti-state.com/article.php?article_id=381 (http://www.anonym.to/?http://anti-state.com/article.php?article_id=381)

By doing this you put the debate on scientific footing. This is the strongest, most central argument for Marxism because it is scientific fact. Once convinced that something is a scientific fact it becomes neigh impossible to argue against with any credibility save for the most ignorant of circles. You also automatically destroy any bizarre libertarian/anarchist/redistributed private property backyard economy schemes by showing how impractical they are from the onset.

The struggle against fascism is essential because under fascism the proletariat cannot organize and communicate as effectively if at all. This impedes the development of class consciousness. Likewise fascists pose a general threat due to their unbridled use of war, which in this day and age would mean the use of nukes. Fascism also prevents most progressive reforms (keep in mind that while reformism is idealistic, that does not mean a revolutionary abandons all positive reforms). The fascists tend to demolish what little gains the workers and proletariat have made in preserving a decent quality of life. Fascist states are also particularly violent towards potential revolutionary movements on the international side, and are particularly militant towards Deformed Workers States.

I have no doubt, if the fascists had power in the US, and they believed they could win, they would Nuke China down to glass. In fact, the Fundamentalist nuts might do it anyways under their crazed apocalyptic beliefs.

[Die Rote Fahne]

Don't just ally with Marxists to fight fascism. Ally with anarchists.

[Dermezel]

Don't just ally with Marxists to fight fascism. Ally with anarchists.

Indeed. Unfortunately it may be necessary, as distasteful as it might be.

[Dermezel]

However do not under any circumstances ally with these nuts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_and_nationalism). Those are not even anarchists but fascists posing as anarchists.

[The Essence Of Flame Is The Essence Of Change]

Indeed. Unfortunately it may be necessary, as distasteful as it might be.
Uhh...If you Marxists did anything actively to fight fascism it might not be that necessary for him to get a ''distasteful'' taste in his mouth...Idiot.

[Dermezel]

Uhh...If you Marxists did anything actively to fight fascism it might not be that necessary for him to get a ''distasteful'' taste in his mouth...Idiot.

Anarchists have no solution to the Centralization of Capital that I know of other then a mass reduction in the population size. That means genocide.

How are they going to do it? Decentralize the factories, the airports, the power plants? How is that going to work exactly?

How are they going to solve non-governmental sources of oppression? Religion, patriarchy, sexism, racism, child abuse?

Also did anything to fight fascism? Last I checked it was the USSR that kicked Germany's ass.

[Rjevan]

Moved to Learning.
To the OP: keep an eye out for anti-fascist groups in your area.

[RED DAVE]

And some learning about the subject never hurt:

Fascism: What It Is and How to Fight It - By Leon Trotsky (http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/works/1944/1944-fas.htm#p0)

RED DAVE

[Tifosi]

Anarchists have no solution to the Centralization of Capital that I know of other then a mass reduction in the population size. That means genocide.

Where did you hear that rubbish?


How are they going to do it? Decentralize the factories, the airports, the power plants? How is that going to work exactly?

Well you don't need Stalin and his crew to run the buses. The bus workers can run the buses better than anyone else can. How will that not work?


How are they going to solve non-governmental sources of oppression? Religion, patriarchy, sexism, racism, child abuse?

Well how has any goverment in history fixed these problems? They haven't so why keep going down the same root if it doesn't work?


Also did anything to fight fascism? Last I checked it was the USSR that kicked Germany's ass.

What by themselves?