Help Dabating Fascists/Nazis....

[Hexen]

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I see that liberal grime runs thick in your veins. It is you who will see the truth one day, and painfully regret that you let that filth into your mind, whatever racial or sexual orientation you are (if you're white and straight I pity you even more). Marks these words and mark them well.

You're welcome to regurgitate that disease ridden ideology here, just know that it'll receive many flames from myself as I just barely keep the lid on in the real world, and I'm not about to do that here.

It amazes me how you're so quick to judge, when you know so very little about the world. You're so naive it's almost sickening, living in your comfy home in a largely homogenous culture, where latinos and niggers are only minorities. The truth is that you've got absolutely no experience other than the liberal shit that is crammed into your brain. I've studied all the theories, all the social science... I've studied liberalism itself. More importantly I live on the kaffir's home fucking continent in a country who's very flag was made as a celebration of a multicultural society. What I'm saying is, I know a shit load more than you do about this area, and I've experience one hell of a lot more too. So do me a favour and save your conceited and holier than thou judgement for when you've worked all the green out from behind your ears.

Let me get a little more specific here... At no point did we enslave anyone. If you're going to throw accusations around, in more recent history slavery has been reserved for Americans and niggers. I'd hardly call giving each and every kaffir a job and a free education slavery.

Dislike people merely because they are different? Is that what the liberals tell you? This ties into the point of... you don't know shit. With regard to gays, I really don't have a problem with a purely heterosexual world.

Let me put forth a question to you: Can you name one single thing that black people ever contributed to mankind... ever?

Chauvinist? Tell me something, when last did you let a woman walk first? When last did you open the car doors and close them for them first before getting in yourself? When last did you take your mother out for dinner to show her you appreciate her? When last did you stand as a woman entered the room? When last did you tell your wife/girlfriend/female friend that they look great today? I doubt you do even half of these things, meaning I have a lot more respect for women than you do.
The point is that a woman does not need a man with a vagina between his legs. Rather they need a man who is worthy of respect, not some needy lapdog as most men have become.

I suggest you discard the chains of liberalism and think for yourself for a change.

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If you want to throw accusationgs like that, please back it up somehow. I really don't want to flame, but you're really making it difficult for me...

Such an accusation is incredibly ignorant, and here's why:

You're somehow tarnishing what is reality (i.e. the EU's policy) with an unfounded view (i.e. BNP are fascist/WS) in order to somehow create an alternate interpretation of a factual article. The article is a fact and the EU are incorporating that policy. Why must you say that the source is week, when the article is a fact? I don't get it, man, why must you act so silly? http://forums.the-postmortem.com/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif Apart from that BNP is a nationalist party, meaning that they are in favour of white nationalism, which is not fascism or white supremacism. Do you think that because I am a white nationalist that I hate Krypto or think that I am superior to him? No! Get real man, stop sucking on the media's tit and think for yourself http://forums.the-postmortem.com/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

For the record, I encourage other races to think in the same way. I just don't think - especially black people - can abide with nationalist policy because they stand to gain the most from a multiracial culture.

Regarding the ZA/Canada article, thanks for posting that! Good find! http://forums.the-postmortem.com/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

I will now point out that the ruling party has said on more than one occasion that white people must get out of the country if they are unhappy with crime. Oh the irony http://forums.the-postmortem.com/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

I was feeling so good after my run this morning, now I feel like shit http://forums.the-postmortem.com/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif
The BNP is fascist/neo-nazi/reactionary because they are proud they are white? I'm sorry man, but that doesn't hold up as none of these categories can be defined as being proud of one's race. The closest are Neo-Nazi's who are white supremacists - I will not defend them. The point remains, BNP are white nationalists, not white supremacists (huge difference). Can't you see it is you who is the emotional and irrational one? http://forums.the-postmortem.com/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

I do honestly want a homogenous society, and there is nothing boring about it. There is such a thing as "race", it is only brainwashing that will tell you otherwise (I've studied in depth all the theories that talk about it and have tertiary qualifications to prove it). Pop-science as perpetuated by media will tell you that genetically there is an insignificant difference between races, but hey man, don't let me tell you about the far outweighing scientific studies which have found the exact opposite. Apart from that, culture and society are racial constructs, not vice versa. I have the entirety of human history backing me up here.

BoN, I'd really like to encourage you to research this issue a lot more, and my this I mean researching both sides of the argument. I have this friend who is so reflexive in his thinking that he refuses to comment on this issue until he has researched it because he knows he has incomplete knowledge. You should realise that what you know is only what the media has told you, and look into it a bit.
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Having studied organisational culture and dynamics I'm glad to give my opinion...

A computer gaming company is something which is very similar to a university or a research and development dept. It is something which requires "slack" in order for creativity to thrive. Slack being for example the ability for an employee to spend an hour of his day playing some console game in the conference room. For creativity to thrive employees must be happy as well, and given that one's sub-conscious view of one's work environment rests largely on the relationships with one's co-workers, good relationships need to be fostered. This is actually normally encouraged by managers and executives by providing the slack with which employees can use to socialise with each other. Sometimes getaways are even organised.

With this in mind the current CEO is a complete moron. But hey, he's jewish and I didn't expect any more of him.
Just because I haven't studied a course in it, doesn't mean that my other courses haven't covered some of its framework. So I guess in essense I have actually studied it, but under something like Sociology. Regardless, I have a - very liberal - friend who has his honours degree in political science and I'm always sure to consult him on matters in order to get an objective viewpoint (not to say his is the objective one - use common sense here).

Regardless, I think you lack a basic understanding of what political science is and how the social sciences fit together. Learning things like Socialism, Communism etc isn't exclusive to political science, rather it shares these subjects with Sociology. Marxism (also "conflict theory") is more rooted in sociological studies, as are the works of Durkheim and Weber. Racial studies (at least the social side - as a pose to scientific) are exclusive to Sociology, which I studied in depth. There is also Anthropology, the twin sister of Sociology, which is the study of culture; which I did my fair share of as well.

What I am saying is that despite the fact that I probably studied political science the least, it doesn't mean that I don't know anything about it. This is aside from the fact that you took the words "political science" at face value and misinterpreted them. All in all - although I hate to use education as a premise, but you started it http://forums.the-postmortem.com/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif - I really do know what I'm talking about.

Also, my point still stands http://forums.the-postmortem.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

EDIT (in response to yours): I hardly think the opinions of people from some forum measure up to the internationally peer reviewed material in my framework. Come on man http://forums.the-postmortem.com/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif You want me to learn political science from there?

EDIT again: The thing is that you are a thought "follower" (read up on mass communication studies), and your opinion is not the product of your own critical thinking, although you do - dissonantly - rationalise it that way. You read what people say and what the media tells you and that's where your opinion comes from. I on the other hand studied objective (sometimes liberally biased) material and observed the world around me, which lead me to certain conclusions and opinions. Can you see the difference I am trying to portray?also

http://forums.the-postmortem.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1065&hilit=white
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How do you respond to all this?

[Steve_j]

Look to behonest i couldnt read it, too mcuh text and im feeling a bit lazy.

At the end of the day, race supremicists, fascists or nationalists what ever they are all get their veiws from the emotion of fear. This is the grounding point of their "logic". They are scared, because of the shit the media hypes up in the name of a good story, or be it they were beaten up by an imigrant kid at school or their parents scared the shit out of them growing up. What ever reason their fear is nothing but a hinderence for class conciousness and maintains the capitalist powers that be. It is simply that, an illogical fear that benifits no one but the rich, to be honest it might just be best to ignore them for now.

[CartCollector]

Let me put forth a question to you: Can you name one single thing that black people ever contributed to mankind... ever?

Jazz, blues, rock and roll. Music not enough for you? How about their brave military service to a country that treated them like shit (the US)? Yes, even before desegregation!


Chauvinist? Tell me something, when last did you let a woman walk first? When last did you open the car doors and close them for them first before getting in yourself? When last did you take your mother out for dinner to show her you appreciate her? When last did you stand as a woman entered the room? When last did you tell your wife/girlfriend/female friend that they look great today? I doubt you do even half of these things, meaning I have a lot more respect for women than you do.

That's not respect, that's pity. The way you treat women shows that you believe that they can't do things on their own, need to be taken care of, and constantly worry what men think of them. Tell me, how would you feel if a man treated you the way you treated women? Would you feel "respected?"



The point is that a woman does not need a man with a vagina between his legs. Rather they need a man who is worthy of respect, not some needy lapdog as most men have become.

Women don't need men. They're people just like you and I, not the needy lapdogs that you think they are.



to be honest it might just be best to ignore them for now.
This is true, especially if you're in America. Remember, just a couple decades back, the US fought a war against fascists and Nazis, and civil rights leaders like MLK are national heroes. There's no reason to go out and shout "Nazism and racism are bad!" to everyone: the work's already been done. Really you should focus your efforts on the various arguments in favor of capitalism that actually hold sway over large groups of Americans.

[Aesop]

I stopped giving Neo-Nazis/white nationalists/ ethnonationalists (whatever they call themselves these days) the privilege of wasting my time on these forums and to call me an anti-white racist or to make snide comments about being a Marxists, but seeing as it is a comrade asking from for a little help to refute the pseudo-science and sensationalism I will try to assist

I see that liberal grime runs thick in your veins. It is you who will see the truth one day, and painfully regret that you let that filth into your mind, whatever racial or sexual orientation you are (if you're white and straight I pity you even more). Marks these words and mark them well.

You're welcome to regurgitate that disease ridden ideology here, just know that it'll receive many flames from myself as I just barely keep the lid on in the real world, and I'm not about to do that here.
*shivers* internet toughguy. Btw, white laced Dr Martens and winter storm combats and B&H T shirt doesn’t mean you’re an ‘Aryan’ superman who is going to defeat the ‘dark forces’ of reason and science.

It amazes me how you're so quick to judge, when you know so very little about the world.
Coming from a guy who thinks that he is going to make you painfully regret.

You're so naive it's almost sickening, living in your comfy home in a largely homogenous culture, where latinos and niggers are only minorities.
Homogenous culture, No nation-state is homogenous culturally or has every been, to say that there is a homogenous culture you are citing that every sphere in life is uniformly the same. i.e. Everyone dresses the same; everyone eats the same food which is far from the truth. Any relatively large and complex society carries social and cultural diversity. Moron.

The truth is that you've got absolutely no experience other than the liberal shit that is crammed into your brain. I've studied all the theories, all the social science... I've studied liberalism itself.
Stormfront does not count as an education institution. Well, for some who calls himself a white-nationalist I would not brag how I have studied all the social sciences.(which I pretty much doubt you have, after all this is the internet). If you studied sociology which is a social science you would realise that race is socially constructed.
The BNP is fascist/neo-Nazi/reactionary because they are proud they are white? I'm sorry man, but that doesn't hold up as none of these categories can be defined as being proud of one's race. The closest are Neo-Nazi's who are white supremacists - I will not defend them. The point remains, BNP are white nationalists, not white supremacists (huge difference). Can't you see it is you who is the emotional and irrational one?
It is a stated BNP policy that they would, if in power, encourage all non-white people living in Britain to leave; they'd even provide financial incentives to so encourage the exodus of non-white people. This is because the BNP are openly committed to the pursuit of what it considers an ethnically 'pure' nation, which means they are 'white nationalists'/ethnonationalists. Also before you try to argue on their behalf, they are not raising a legitimate question at all - they're trying to turn the clock back to an era of overt racism, of Nazism, of discrimination based on skin colour or sexual orientation, they are backward 'thinking' neo-Nazis. Asking some one to leave a café because of their skin-colour is racist, likewise to leave a country.
I do honestly want a homogenous society, and there is nothing boring about it. There is such a thing as "race", it is only brainwashing that will tell you otherwise (I've studied in depth all the theories that talk about it and have tertiary qualifications to prove it). Pop-science as perpetuated by media will tell you that genetically there is an insignificant difference between races, but hey man, don't let me tell you about the far outweighing scientific studies which have found the exact opposite. Apart from that, culture and society are racial constructs, not vice versa. I have the entirety of human history backing me up here.
If you want a homogenous society your closest bet will be to emigrate to the Amazon and ask to join one of the local chiefdoms, because you are not going to find or get one in any nation-state. There is no ‘Caucasoid’ race; such races have been debunked for some time. What is it you're worried about disappearing, white skin (skin colour is objectively trivial, they only matter if you are, you know into racism)? Human beings are all of the same species, the same 'race' if you like. We have, historically (and still are), moved around the earth and in some cases become isolated for noticeable geographic variation to develop, and remember this is always subject to change. In light of new discoveries and more critical reasoning, 'biological races' are generally now understood as imaginative constructs which tend to fit folk conceptions of difference; they are not any longer regarded as scientific discoveries.

Knock yourself out with the science

http://raceandgenomics.ssrc.org/Marks/

http://www.enotalone.com/article/5043.html

http://personal.uncc.edu/jmarks/interests/Baltimore.html