Why do people want anarchy?

[j-mak]

I've been browsing this forum and I see many people supporting anarchism.
Is that the belief that the nation has no government or law? or does it have another meaning?

Why would a nation benefit with no government or law system, wouldn't the country just go to hell with crime and any form of natural disaster?

Not being dissident with left wing beliefs, just can't understand the reasoning besides anarchism.
thanks.

[The Vegan Marxist]

I've been browsing this forum and I see many people supporting anarchism.
Is that the belief that the nation has no government or law? or does it have another meaning?

Why would a nation benefit with no government or law system, wouldn't the country just go to hell with crime and any form of natural disaster?

Not being dissident with left wing beliefs, just can't understand the reasoning besides anarchism.
thanks.

Well, if you can find the polls made on whether people supported anarchism or communism (marxist-leninist-maoist, etc.) the majority voted for communism. That's not saying that anarchism is bad, just pointing out where the majority stands within RevLeft. But also, if you're a supporter for communism, then you're a supporter for anarchy, because they both are pretty much the same goal.

[sarmchain]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_communism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-syndicalism
http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/Goldman/anarchism.html (http://xroads.virginia.edu/%7Ehyper/Goldman/anarchism.html)
http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/23428
these should explain it better for you , the most common misconception about anarchy is that it leads to chaos and disorder, a lie that is happy supported by capitalists

[Crusade]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_communism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-syndicalism
http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/Goldman/anarchism.html (http://xroads.virginia.edu/%7Ehyper/Goldman/anarchism.html)
http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/23428
these should explain it better for you , the most common misconception about anarchy is that it leads to chaos and disorder, a lie that is happy supported by capitalists

How does Anarcho-syndicalism differ from Anarcho-communism?

[danny bohy]

I've been browsing this forum and I see many people supporting anarchism.
Is that the belief that the nation has no government or law? or does it have another meaning?

Why would a nation benefit with no government or law system, wouldn't the country just go to hell with crime and any form of natural disaster?

Not being dissident with left wing beliefs, just can't understand the reasoning besides anarchism.
thanks.

what youve asked is a really broad question. like very other idealogy people have varying reasons. alot of anarchists are just teenagers tryin to rebel without knowing what its really about, some are just undecided leftists who call themselves anarchists and some who believe that communism is to easy to corrupt. I my self am an anarchist because i believe men (or women) will always be corrupted by power and laws can never be perfect because every situation differs. It is alot easier to manage people in small communitys, by teaching children morals and settling disputes as intelligent adults. any work done would only be for your communitys survival so there would be no exploitation. to your question "how will it benifite a nation" there will be none only small communitys and the worlds people as a whole. to your other statement "wouldn't the country just go to hell with crime" in an ideal anarchist world crime would not help you in anyway and in small communities it would usually be obvious who the perpatrator is. as for natural disasters they will always cause damage and it will be similar to now. the world will work together to help out (be alot more generous than now). basically all the problems from a congested, industrialist, corrupt, capiatlist society would be solved.
Cant really explain it anymore but thats why i believe in it. every anarchist would be different.

[j-mak]

Thanks for the response danny bohy & Vegan Marxist, that explains a lot.
Thanks for the links Sarmchain
:thumbup1:

[Tablo]

How does Anarcho-syndicalism differ from Anarcho-communism?
Syndicalists are Communists, those that refer to themselves as Syndicalists normally put a stronger emphases on the revolutionary value of unions, not that those that identify as Communists do not.

[whore]

why do we want anarchism?
if people are bad, then we cant have them in control of other people.
if people are good, then we dont need them in control of other people.

[The Douche]

Well, if you can find the polls made on whether people supported anarchism or communism (marxist-leninist-maoist, etc.) the majority voted for communism. That's not saying that anarchism is bad, just pointing out where the majority stands within RevLeft. But also, if you're a supporter for communism, then you're a supporter for anarchy, because they both are pretty much the same goal.

Nobody here is either an anarchist or a communist, all anarchists are communists, but not all communists are anarchists. I'm pretty sure that point got made a thousand times when you started a thread asking people to identify as such. Also, why have you started to say "communism (marxist-leninist-maoist)", do you think maoism is the only form of communism?

[Zanthorus]

Is that the belief that the nation has no government or law? or does it have another meaning?

Wether or not anarchism has "laws" depends on your definition of laws but there would still be codes of conduct. We aren't against government though, in fact anarchism is against the specific form of government known as the state which allows a minority class to rule over the majority. Anarchists desire to give power to the masses in the only way that really makes sense, by abolishing the state and establishing the popular self-government of the masses through systems of grassroots democracy. In a broader sense anarchists advocate for the abolition of all systems of heirarchy and domination.


all anarchists are communists

I would say that collectivists are legitimately anarchists (Although there are almost none around that don't believe in communism as a final goal anyway so it barely matters anymore).

[revolution inaction]

It is alot easier to manage people in small communitys, by teaching children morals and settling disputes as intelligent adults. any work done would only be for your communitys survival so there would be no exploitation. to your question "how will it benifite a nation" there will be none only small communitys and the worlds people as a whole. to your other statement "wouldn't the country just go to hell with crime" in an ideal anarchist world crime would not help you in anyway and in small communities it would usually be obvious who the perpatrator is. as for natural disasters they will always cause damage and it will be similar to now. the world will work together to help out (be alot more generous than now). basically all the problems from a congested, industrialist, corrupt, capiatlist society would be solved.
Cant really explain it anymore but thats why i believe in it. every anarchist would be different.

I really disagree with the idea that anarchism means having lots of little separate communities.
I think the important thing is not the size of a community but how it is run. A small community can be extremely hierarchical and oppressive and a large one can have no differences of rank or power and involve everyone in running it.
What matters is the structures used to organize things and the attitudes of the people involved.

[syndicat]

There are different sorts of anarchist. Most social anarchists do not say society should be broken up into tiny self-sufficient communities. Only some say that. So that can't be what is definitive of anarchism.

Nor is it the case that social anarchists say there will be no governmental system. They say there should be no state. But a state is a particular form of governmental system, where there is a hierarchical apparatus running various government agencies, army, police, prisons, etc. States, because of this top-down structure, are not really controllable by the people even in socalled "democracies."

The popular power advocated by most social anarchists is a form of government, and it would have the power to make and enforce the basic rules in society. These would be equivalent to laws since they would be enforceable.

Anarcho-syndicalism is a strategy for achieving a libertarian socialist society based on workers management of the various industries. It is based on the development of working class concsiousness and the bulding of mass organizations of workers that are directly controlled by the workers, not a hierarchical bureaucracy.

Not all anarcho-syndicalists are communists (I'm not for example) but most are. Anarcho-ciommunism is a rather vague term that refers to an aim, a type of social arrangement that is aimed at.

The aim of social anarchism is generalized self-management, that is, both in the economy and in control over the society by its members.

[Dimentio]

I've been browsing this forum and I see many people supporting anarchism.
Is that the belief that the nation has no government or law? or does it have another meaning?

Why would a nation benefit with no government or law system, wouldn't the country just go to hell with crime and any form of natural disaster?

Not being dissident with left wing beliefs, just can't understand the reasoning besides anarchism.
thanks.

The absence of a state doesn't mean the absence of a public order of some sort. What anarchists want is a federation of small, autonomous societies built on direct democracy and public ownership of the means of production.

[The Douche]

I would say that collectivists are legitimately anarchists (Although there are almost none around that don't believe in communism as a final goal anyway so it barely matters anymore).

Thanks for pointing that out, I agree.

[The Red Next Door]

The reason people want anarchy because, it a perfect way to communism without us worrying about ending up with a Stalinist state in the future. also we do not like people bossing us around, telling us what to buy, what to do, dealing with lazy ass bosses working off your labor. we all work for ourselves or work in a group with others, and participate in direct Democracy. Also people are tired of electing people who do not really represent the people interest.