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Communist
1st March 2010, 20:41
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Mossad gangsters in Dubai (http://www.workers.org/2010/editorials/dubai_0304/)
Feb 28, 2010

Mahmoud al-Mabhouh, credited with organizing the fighting force of the Palestinian liberation group Hamas, was assassinated in Dubai by Israeli Mossad agents, perhaps working together with other professional killers.

That, at least, is what everyone believes and is the most reasonable explanation of his murder.

A myth has grown about the Mossad — a Hebrew word meaning Institute, short for Institute for Intelligence and Special Operations. Its professional killers are supposed to work flawlessly, expertly, with dedication and ruthlessness. The ruthless part is true and obvious. The rest is a myth useful to the Israeli rulers. The Israeli army created this myth before its 2006 defeat in Lebanon and last year’s failure in Gaza.

Like its counterparts in the “dirty-tricks” departments of imperialist spy agencies like the CIA, Britain’s MI6 and France’s General Directorate, the Mossad carries out murders. It operates much like killers trained or hired by organized crime gangs to rub out someone refusing to pay protection money.

The Mossad operates under the Israeli flag, a flag tied up completely with the brutal suppression of an entire people. Thus these gangsters have become specialists in suppression and repression of popular rebellion.

Mossad agents are sent all over the globe, providing advice and training to repressive states, for example, to Colombia and other pro-U.S. countries in Latin America where a large U.S. presence in this role might awaken mass anger.

The Israelis offer this training as part of their contribution to maintaining imperialist domination over the world and in return for other support. The imperialists and their Israeli clients stick together in jointly suppressing liberation struggles.

While carrying out the murder of Al-Mabhouh, the Mossad agents were recorded on closed-circuit videos that abound in Dubai. The local police publicized this on YouTube. They also revealed that the suspect Mossad agents used passports from Britain, Canada and Ireland. These countries, also part of the imperialist world, lodged diplomatic complaints, which the Israelis discount as public relations.

But for the Israelis it is bad public relations. With each blatant murder and war crime the Israeli state commits, the propaganda attempting to support its legitimacy loses the little force it retains.

Israeli war crimes in Gaza a year ago propelled a movement demanding boycott, divestment and sanctions against the Zionist state. The Dubai assassination, which once more exposes Israel’s criminal character, is sure to push that BDS movement another step forward.
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Uppercut
1st March 2010, 20:47
Mossad is a very dirty organization, without a question. Now here's my problem: If leftists can agree that Mossad was involved in Dubai, and possibly in India during the Mumbai attacks, why can't we understand that 4 or 5 Mossad agents were in NYC on September 11th? It's no conspiracy theory, and they even went on Israeli TV later on and admitted that they were there to "document the event".

I don't mean to divert away from the topic, just saying.

RadioRaheem84
1st March 2010, 20:47
What was a Hamas leader doing in Dubai?

bailey_187
1st March 2010, 20:52
Mossad is a very dirty organization, without a question. Now here's my problem: If leftists can agree that Mossad was involved in Dubai, and possibly in India during the Mumbai attacks, why can't we understand that 4 or 5 Mossad agents were in NYC on September 11th? It's no conspiracy theory, and they even went on Israeli TV later on and admitted that they were there to "document the event".

I don't mean to divert away from the topic, just saying.

You dont see the difference between Israeli security services taking out a Palestinian Resistance leader and Israeli Security Services blowing up two fucking Skyscrapers in the middle of New York?

Uppercut
1st March 2010, 21:04
You dont see the difference between Israeli security services taking out a Palestinian Resistance leader and Israeli Security Services blowing up two fucking Skyscrapers in the middle of New York?

No, no, no. That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm not suggesting 9/11 was pulled off by Israelis or that it was brought down by bombs, or whatever conspiracy theorists believe in.

I'm saying that on the day the planes were hijacked, a group of Mossad agents were filming the attacks from a nearby van. Someone nearby spotted them and they were detained by the FBI, but later released and sent back to Israel. It makes me wonder what the U.S. government and the Israeli Intelligence Services knew ahead of time.

Red Commissar
1st March 2010, 23:58
What was a Hamas leader doing in Dubai?

Dubai is a banking center so probably a financial transaction of some sort, either for the organization or himself.

What's the issue here though is how these agents used passports of other countries. This is an issue for other countries involved because it raises to them where the loyalties of their security agencies truly lie, much less explain to their people how material that should have stayed within the state was used by a completely different nation.

Wolf Larson
2nd March 2010, 00:22
The men and women from Mossad who facilitated that execution in the OP used the same phone systems as the attackers in Mumbai who killed about 100 people Nov 2008. This was on CNN with Anderson Cooper. It wasn't focused on and as soon as the person [X-CIA] being interview said it they went to commercial. I'll try to find the clip on youtube if anyone else caught it. Perhaps the info is widely avalable? I was at my girlfriends house and she happened to have CNN on and I just happened to catch it. They said the phone systems are Austrian, I think, it's a service the Mossad uses to scramble calls....I'll try to find some objective info and post it in this thread.

Red Commissar
2nd March 2010, 00:27
I'm just curious how the news exploded like this. Generally Mossad seems to be careful to cover up their tracks and just limit things to discussions in conspiracy groups, but even when mainstream news starts covering something like this, they messed up greatly. I'm assuming they probably went in thinking they'd have the cooperation of the UAE security agency but something messed up along the way.

In any event, it's good the world sees the organization for what it is.

Wolf Larson
2nd March 2010, 00:31
No, no, no. That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm not suggesting 9/11 was pulled off by Israelis or that it was brought down by bombs, or whatever conspiracy theorists believe in.

I'm saying that on the day the planes were hijacked, a group of Mossad agents were filming the attacks from a nearby van. Someone nearby spotted them and they were detained by the FBI, but later released and sent back to Israel. It makes me wonder what the U.S. government and the Israeli Intelligence Services knew ahead of time.
Of course they knew ahead of time. Also, the wars were planned before 9/11 happened. This is fact not some conspiracy theory. I wouldn't be surprised if Osama was a CIA agent. There's no way to know for sure. There is in fact a war going on between globalization [capitalism] and the people of the second and third world but US intelligence agencies are so shady we will never know the full truth when it comes to foreign war and even domestic economic policies. Sometimes I think the movers and shakers knew the attack was coming and let it happen. I don't particularly like conspiracy theories but 9/11 was in fact awash with inconsistencies. I prefer to focus my time on simply spreading class awareness because if we debate or focus on such conspiracies it takes away our credibility and I've found it more productive to focus on explaining why capitalism is unjust in general.

JacobVardy
2nd March 2010, 04:38
I'm just curious how the news exploded like this. Generally Mossad seems to be careful to cover up their tracks and just limit things to discussions in conspiracy groups, but even when mainstream news starts covering something like this, they messed up greatly. I'm assuming they probably went in thinking they'd have the cooperation of the UAE security agency but something messed up along the way.

In any event, it's good the world sees the organization for what it is.

My sense of it is that they did not realise just how sophisticated the UAE security has become in the last few years. Remember that the original verdict was that he died of natural causes. That and the fact that General Dahi Khalfan Tamim went out of his way to publicise the attack.

~Spectre
2nd March 2010, 04:54
UAE from what I gather is under a lockdown of surveillance. It's apparently typical of the Netanyahu government that is regarded as incompetent, to make this type of "error". The more the world comes to see the true face of the Mossad, the better. This kind of thing can turn off a lot of the borderline zionists.

GatesofLenin
2nd March 2010, 06:26
This is exactly the shit that brings down govts, excuse my language. Anyone remember the CIA - Cuba connection, this eventually brought down the Batista govt and left the door wide open for Castro and Che. Maybe this is a good thing afterall?

TheCultofAbeLincoln
2nd March 2010, 06:58
I agree the Mossad definitely underestimated the security forces, even though they were able to pull off the attack. Many of the agents have been identified as men who were in Dubai with (I believe) Irish, German, Italian, and British passports, and now Israel has a lot of answering to do. You can look up the pictures taken by security cameras, it's not 1972 anymore where cameras produced nothing but grainy images a hat could overcome.

The Economist had an interesting piece on the attack, it mainly claimed that it's becomeing much more efficient for powers to simply use drones or cruise missiles to take out most targets and that old school spy tactics are becoming obsolete. I agree, though that'd be one hell of a thing to pull off in a place like Dubai.

Ligeia
2nd March 2010, 07:38
I'm just curious how the news exploded like this. Generally Mossad seems to be careful to cover up their tracks and just limit things to discussions in conspiracy groups, but even when mainstream news starts covering something like this, they messed up greatly. I'm assuming they probably went in thinking they'd have the cooperation of the UAE security agency but something messed up along the way.

In any event, it's good the world sees the organization for what it is.


The last time it was revealed that Israeli agents were using British passports, in 1987, Margaret Thatcher put her iron foot down.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1152508.html

The name of Khaled Meshaal, political chief of Palestinian militant group Hamas, was heard around the world when he survived an assassination attempt by Israeli agents in 1997.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3563635.stm

1998:A UK MP has said that four members of the United Nations weapons inspection team in Iraq are Israeli spies.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/207223.stm

So it's not been the first time something like this has been revealed to the world.