Privatization in Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy

[Nolan]

We know that fascism is what happens when market capitalism hits the fan. But I thought I'd find some specifics of fascist economic policy that favors the capitalists.


http://www.ub.es/graap/nazi.pdf

The last stand of those who think the Nazis were leftists.

I disagree with the authors conclusions. They don't follow from the facts given. Somehow the Nazis privatized many things and did everything to get on the good side of the German bourgeoisie but were against private property and only intended to control the market. But still a good proof that the Nazis were not in fact socialists in any way, shape or form.

For Italy:

http://cadmus.eui.eu/dspace/handle/1814/12319

(http://cadmus.eui.eu/dspace/handle/1814/12319?mode=full)

[Drace]

National Socialists are socialists as much as Anti-Socialists are.

[Comrade Anarchist]

We know that fascism is what happens when market capitalism hits the fan.

That is the fucking stupidest statement i've ever heard. The nazis rose to power b/c the german economy was wrecked b/c of the treaty of versailles and nationalist hatred b/c they lost. It was governments taking revenge on governments b/c these governments started wars. Italian fascism started b/c a deep nationalist disgust b/c of treaty of Saint-Germain-en-Laye. When governments wage wars they over-punish the enemy causing them to suffer and leading to nationalist movements which always devolve into fascist states.

[Nolan]

That is the fucking stupidest statement i've ever heard. The nazis rose to power b/c the german economy was wrecked b/c of the treaty of versailles and nationalist hatred b/c they lost. It was governments taking revenge on governments b/c these governments started wars. Italian fascism started b/c a deep nationalist disgust b/c of treaty of Saint-Germain-en-Laye. When governments wage wars they over-punish the enemy causing them to suffer and leading to nationalist movements which always devolve into fascist states.

Surely it isn't, you make worse statements every day.

Gee, the economy was a big part of it, huh? Who saved capitalism according to your heroes?

[Comrade Gwydion]

Wow, that must be the best thing I found on Revleft in ages. Apart from all the bickering, that is.
Thanks for the great source, I'm sure going to read this.

[danyboy27]

That is the fucking stupidest statement i've ever heard. The nazis rose to power b/c the german economy was wrecked b/c of the treaty of versailles and nationalist hatred b/c they lost. It was governments taking revenge on governments b/c these governments started wars. Italian fascism started b/c a deep nationalist disgust b/c of treaty of Saint-Germain-en-Laye. When governments wage wars they over-punish the enemy causing them to suffer and leading to nationalist movements which always devolve into fascist states.

All the reason you mentionned are classical mistake, and are only valid if you use Mein kaumpf has a book of reference for the german history.

Historical evidence show that the only a minority of the volkich bourgeois really cared about the treaty of versaille or nationalism, and way before hitler came into power the general economy was getting better, worker right where getting better.

Hitler never really gained widespread support naturally, he had to force it, by physicly and physhologicly harassing the german people, slowly coercing people to shut up or to support him.

this process of brainwashing continued more intensively from 1935 to 1939, by litteraly corrupting the structure of german society in order to create what the nazi called the national community, a community where the furher , the land and the people are one, germany.

Most working class german where in total apathy, all hitler needed is to force a certain number of those people in apathy to support him, and the work was done.