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LeninistKing
25th February 2010, 18:49
Israel is almost ready to launch a major attack against Iran


http://www.larouchepac.com/node/13618

February 21, 2010 (LPAC)—Sources close to the Israeli government have warned Executive Intelligence Review that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's inner cabinet is close to making a decision to launch a preventive strike against Iran's nuclear facilities. Such a decision, that would be a further step closer to a devastating regional confrontation, could come as early as Sunday, when the Israeli cabinet convenes.

According to the source, a fierce debate is raging within the Israeli military, over whether Israel has the capacity to successfully strike Iran's nuclear facilities at Natanz or elsewhere. Recently former Israeli Defense Forces Chief of Staff Gen. Dan Halutz told Israeli media that the IDF does not have the ability to seriously damage the Iranian program. But, according to an Israeli source close to the inner cabinet, several options are being reviewed for just such an attack. According to the source, in recent visits to Russia, both Netanyahu and Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman pressed Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin for permission to stage attacks against Iranian targets from sites inside Russia. Putin reportedly strongly shut the door on that option; however, similar approaches have been made to the government of Kazakhstan, according to the Israeli source. The source added that the preferred option, being promoted by factions in the IDF, is to launch attacks from Israeli submarines, equipped with Cruise missiles. The source noted that the accuracy of the Cruise missiles, launched from Israeli submarines is unreliable, and most of the Iranian sites on the Israeli target list are in urban areas.

The sources confirmed that the Obama Administration's national security team has delivered a series of strongly worded messages, warning Israel against any unilateral attacks on Iran. U.S. military leaders, as well as Defense Secretary Robert Gates, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, JCS Chairman Adm. Michael Mullen, National Security Advisor Gen. Jim Jones, and Vice President Joe Biden, all recognize that a military strike against Iran is the worst-case, last option, and that we are not even close to the point of having to make that decision. It is widely believed, including among Israeli planners, that Iran has a retaliatory asymmetric capability that would involve crippling the entire Persian Gulf oil flow, blowing out the entire world economy, if attacked.

Lyndon LaRouche warned that circles in London, including former Prime Minister Tony Blair, are the real potential architects of this "doomsday" scheme. It is those in London, who are desperate over the collapse of the entire British System, who may be contemplating an Israeli breakaway ally attack on Iran, that would bring on a planetary dark age. Just recall Blair's testimony before the Chilcot Commission, in which he taunted the commissioners with the need to take military action against Iran today, just as he lied the U.S. and Britain into the 2003 invasion of Iraq. These people would have to be totally desperate, to be contemplating such a doomsday act, and I am afraid that they are, LaRouche warned.


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Dimentio
25th February 2010, 18:52
Not LaRouche.

You could as well have quoted Ron L Hubbard, Alex Jones or David Icke.

Sunday will come and go, and no Israeli attack on Iran would occur.

If it does, I promise I would change my avatar to an ostrich.

RadioRaheem84
25th February 2010, 19:02
Oh, Jeez. LeninistKing, you're a LaRouchie?!

Please, stop. Just, stop.

Muzk
25th February 2010, 19:05
Who is LaRouche?

RadioRaheem84
25th February 2010, 19:09
Who is LaRouche?

A crackpot Presidential Candidate who ran several times to no avail. I believe he was indicted on several counts of fraud which he believes were the result of a conspiracy. He is a total nutcase.You will find many of his supporters out in the streets passing out fliers and little newsletters about how Bush, Obama and Cheney are Hitler in some secret cabal that plans to loot the Earth and instill a dictatorship.

More Alex Jones, David Ike type stuff.

LeninistKing needs to STOP spamming the boards with this junk.

Muzk
25th February 2010, 19:15
This conspiracy stuff fits him. Lol

Across The Street
25th February 2010, 19:17
Sounds pretty out there, but could there be some truth to this?
Further instability in the Middle East is the last thing the world needs right now. We can't know what goes on behind the doors of the war planners until the plans are already in place.

LeninistKing
25th February 2010, 19:19
Nobody has absolute truths and facts of what happens in this world. There are no absolute truths, just mere interpretations of those truths. So you are not better than Alex Jones, Larouche or David Icke at explaining world events. Just as Alex Jones could be wrong, you are not the Albert Einstein of politics with 100% knowledge of what happens in this world.

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Not LaRouche. You could as well have quoted Ron L Hubbard, Alex Jones or David Icke.

LeninistKing
25th February 2010, 19:20
The dogmatic religious Marxists in this forum claim to be smarter than Larouche. They are so narcissists and egocentrics that they are the total opposite of Marx.

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Sounds pretty out there, but could there be some truth to this?
Further instability in the Middle East is the last thing the world needs right now. We can't know what goes on behind the doors of the war planners until the plans are already in place.

Dimentio
25th February 2010, 19:21
Well... if Israel indeed is bombing Iran on this Sunday, I'm going to put up an ostrich avatar, k?

Die Rote Fahne
25th February 2010, 19:22
If ever such an attack would occur we would be 50 steps closer to a Palestinian state. Why? Because Israel would cease to exist.

Israel is shooting itself in the head if it attacks Iran.

LeninistKing
25th February 2010, 19:23
I am socialist, and i believe in the socialist dictatorship of the proletariat before an anarcho-communism stage. However some times i prefer anarchists mentality because anarchists are a lot more democratic than religious-leninists. Many Marxist-Leninists are real fascists and stalinists and they think that they have 100% truths of this world, and whatever they say (Without any evidence) must be truths.

They behave like dictators. Thats how dictators are, in a dictatorship, whatever the dictator says it is 100% facts and truths.

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Sounds pretty out there, but could there be some truth to this?
Further instability in the Middle East is the last thing the world needs right now. We can't know what goes on behind the doors of the war planners until the plans are already in place.

LeninistKing
25th February 2010, 19:24
Give me 1000 Adolf Hitlers, over 1 authoriatarian marxist-leninist stalinist

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Sounds pretty out there, but could there be some truth to this?
Further instability in the Middle East is the last thing the world needs right now. We can't know what goes on behind the doors of the war planners until the plans are already in place.

LeninistKing
25th February 2010, 19:25
I dont know why the hell many dogmatic leninists in this forum deffend Isra-hell so much

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If ever such an attack would occur we would be 50 steps closer to a Palestinian state. Why? Because Israel would cease to exist.

Israel is shooting itself in the head if it attacks Iran.

Die Rote Fahne
25th February 2010, 19:30
I dont know why the hell many dogmatic leninists in this forum deffend Isra-hell so much

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I don't see it. What I do know is that Lenin was an anti-Zionist.

Dimentio
25th February 2010, 19:37
I am socialist, and i believe in the socialist dictatorship of the proletariat before an anarcho-communism stage. However some times i prefer anarchists mentality because anarchists are a lot more democratic than religious-leninists. Many Marxist-Leninists are real fascists and stalinists and they think that they have 100% truths of this world, and whatever they say (Without any evidence) must be truths.

They behave like dictators. Thats how dictators are, in a dictatorship, whatever the dictator says it is 100% facts and truths.

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I am not a marxist-leninist. No one has claimed that something is an absolute truth here. What people here are doing, is to question your judgement on behalf of your sources, given that they come from an organisation with very elaborated though unsubstantiated claims about how the world is working.

RadioRaheem84
25th February 2010, 19:39
I dont know why the hell many dogmatic leninists in this forum deffend Isra-hell so much

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What? You're weird, man. I don't know where you're getting this stuff.

Red Commissar
25th February 2010, 19:50
Israel has been planning these things for awhile. It's a contingency plan however, I don't think it means an attack is imminent, even with a nutbag like Netanyahu in power.

Communist
25th February 2010, 20:02
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(http://www.workers.org/2009/us/larouche_0903/)Larouche is no ‘socialist’ (http://www.workers.org/2009/us/larouche_0903/)

By Caleb T. Maupin
Aug 30, 2009


The corporate media is doing another disservice to real socialists and communists by mislabeling Lyndon Larouche as a “communist” or “socialist,” as his followers attack and disrupt health care reform meetings. These activities add a new chapter to this group’s reactionary history, abetted by misrepresentation in the corporate media.

Larouche’s gang has stood outside “town hall” meetings holding pictures of Obama with a Hitler-style mustache and the words “I’ve changed.” The media have attempted to use Larouche’s behavior to attack the left. When covering the rightist attacks on health care proposals, several newspapers and television programs have identified Larouche’s followers and their despicable sign as “communist,” “socialist” and “leftist.” Such claims are a great falsehood and distortion of reality.

Larouche has a long record of serving the capitalist ruling class by attacking progressive movements. Anyone who knows the real history of the left can identify his political philosophy and teaching as dripping with racism, sexism, anti-Semitism and bigotry against lesbian, gay, bi and trans people.

It is true that back in the late 1960s Larouche was identified with a tendency that was briefly part of the left, but it soon switched to the opposite side of the class struggle. By the mid-1970s it was obvious to anyone on the left in the U.S. that he was no socialist or communist.

This became apparent in the early 1970s when his group launched what it called “Operation Mop-Up,” in which his followers violently attacked meetings of leftist and Marxist groups, especially the Communist Party USA, with lead pipes, chains and other makeshift weapons.

In 1973 Larouche mobilized a campaign against revolutionary poet Amiri Baraka, using not political arguments but slandering the African-American political/cultural leader and, in a viciously racist act, put a caricature of Baraka’s face on the body of a hyena on the front page of a pamphlet published by his newspaper, the misnamed New Solidarity. The Ku Klux Klan and other fascist organizations joined his group’s demonstrations against Baraka.

Most people on the left consider him a neo-fascist, although he never had the kind of mass following that groups like the openly racist Ku Klux Klan or the White Citizens Council could claim at some points in their history.

In 1986 Larouche’s publishing house openly published and distributed the writings of a Nazi general named Frederich August Freiherr von der Heyd.

This book, the first English translation of his work, had an introduction by Larouche himself.

During the AIDS crisis, Larouche said he supported the “accelerated death” of people with AIDS in order to “cleanse” the country of the disease. He also praised European skinhead gangs that randomly murdered LGBT people. (New Solidarity, Feb. 9, 1987)

Larouche put himself on the same side as the nuclear energy industry by organizing the Fusion Energy Foundation, a group that attacked those who opposed nuclear power and that was used by the power corporations to promote their products around the world. Larouche also publicized and championed Ronald Reagan’s Strategic Defense Initiative, popularly known as “Star Wars.”

Larouche and his tactics of bigoted fear-mongering and senseless violence are the opposite of what communists, socialists and leftists stand for.
Don’t be fooled by the capitalist media, which are only too ready to try to discredit real communists and socialists.


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The Vegan Marxist
25th February 2010, 20:12
Give me 1000 Adolf Hitlers, over 1 authoriatarian marxist-leninist stalinist

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Please tell me you're kidding?!? If this is how you actually perceive things & truly support then you need some help my friend.

RadioRaheem84
25th February 2010, 20:26
It's comments like that that make me question whether LeninistKing is serious or not.

Across The Street
25th February 2010, 20:31
It's hard for everybody to vent their frustation. Seems to me like some sort of hasty anger.

RedScare
25th February 2010, 23:31
No way in hell will the Israelis be stupid to attack Iran with no one backing them. They have to know they would not survive that.

And LaRouche is a total nutcase, I got one of his pamphlets handed to me on the streets of DC once, and it suggested that the way to cure all of Africa's ills would be to give them a giant maglev train system.:blink: