Good Day, Let the Revolution Begin

[Mr. Canada]

Bonjour!

I'm Mr. Canada, a patriotic Canadian.

But it doesn't end there... I'm what I call a Canadian Nationalist Neo-Communist.
I have my own set of beliefs, but all of them are pretty much left-wing, most extremely so.

I believe in things like complete Drug Legalization, Education, and Regulation...

Also Internet Freedom and 'Public Internet', providing uncensored and unrestricted
free internet access to all citizens as a right of the 21st century, from the Government.
Other things such as Cell phone companies and unco-operative Television companies
would be abolished or taken over and given to the People.

I believe in deep Government Transparency. I see no wrong in the tactics of such
a Communist movement, and see no wrong in the People seeing how it works.

I believe in Peace and Tolerance. Security would be scaled back, but I think it'd be
safe to say that we'd have to be heavily weary of the Capitalist Violent United States.

I believe strongly in Anti-Poverty movements and a guaranteed income. I feel that
Capitalism only makes a few "winners" by making millions and millions of losers.

Haha, yep. So! I think I'll love it here!

I thank you in advance for any warm welcomes, comrades, :)

[Mr. Canada]

Oh, I guess I forgot to mention that my preferred method for revolution right now is
Democracy, as much of a sham that is. I might run in a local election under a
Communist banner.

Probably will lose, but what a slap in the face to a bunch of 70 year old politicians who
haven't ever done anything for the people! A Communist in such a right-wing society.
(That society is Alberta. The Texas of Canada.)

[Lynx]

Welcome to RevLeft :)
Albertans are made to sound like a tough crowd :(

[Mr. Canada]

Thank you, and yes, it's a tough crowd, lol. Alberta is pretty much
the only reason Canada has a right-wing government.

I live in the Conservative's safest riding. I don't think someone of another
party has been elected here since around 1972. The youth are clearly
disenfranchised, vastly more atheist, agnostic, anarchist, and communist
then adults and seniors, who are more likely to be Neo-Conservative fans
of American systems.

An interesting difference in Canada from the United States is that the Left
in Canada are more appropriately considered patriots then the Right-Wingers,
who'd rather sell Canada out to the highest bidder. It's nice not to be called
a traitor.

So yeah, tough crowd indeed, :P Impossible to talk to these clowns without
being infuriated with their complete incompetence. You'll get farther with a
wall than an Albertan, lol. At least an Adult Albertan.
In 20-60 years, the Youth may make this place much much better, :)

EDIT: Wait, are you an Albertan too? Huzzah if so! Hello fellow prisoner, haha.

[Dimentio]

Long live glorious leader Pierre Trudeau! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYuQ5NhYRCU) *joking*

Welcome mate. By the way, how do you define Canadian patriotism?

[Q]

Welcome :)

[Mr. Canada]

Long live glorious leader Pierre Trudeau! *joking*

Welcome mate. By the way, how do you define Canadian patriotism?
Why joking?

I define patriotism as having pride in the existence of the Nation-State of Canada
and it's People. I do not feel that being born here makes you any more patriotic
than any other person who would identify themselves as Canadian.

I also feel it's patriotic to expect far more out of your country and to wish to make
it better. I feel it is possible to oppose everything your leaders and your society has
ever stood for and still be patriotic.

I also disagree with the popular misconception of Government meaning Country.
I choose to believe Country means People.

[AK]

Nationalism is reactionary, so what are you doing here?

[Mr. Canada]

Nationalism is reactionary, so what are you doing here?

I disagree and have an entirely different theory on Nationalism. Sorry.

EDIT: That's not to say I disagree with your opinion in general, I just disagree that it applies to all Theories of Nationalism.

[AK]

I disagree and have an entirely different theory on Nationalism. Sorry.

EDIT: That's not to say I disagree with your opinion in general, I just disagree that it applies to all Theories of Nationalism.
So then, what is your theory on nationalism? Perpetual conflict FTW?

[Mr. Canada]

So then, what is your theory on nationalism? Perpetual conflict FTW?
No.

As I said before, I don't believe patriotism means anything about the
interests or government or leaders. I believe the same for Nationalism,
and instead choose to interpret my nationalism as pride in constantly
changing views that are not solely chained down and written out to be
defended by disillusioned fascists and neocons. I believe Canadian
Nationalism is almost entirely and exclusively a Left-Wing point of view,
something that is likely vastly different in other societies.

I understand that you likely feel that Nationalism is intended to prevent
change or otherwise prevent people who want change. That the idea of
cultural devotion means specifically that that culture does not adapt to
new ideas and will oppose left-wing innovation. I disagree and feel that
my culture allows and adopts change and other people. Perhaps a theory,
and even so, I agree with it.

I also disagree that it's impossible to be a Nationalist and an Internationalist.

Though, I must admit perhaps my only nationalistic reactionary thought is
towards the United States' capitalist occupation of Canada. Even then it's
a bit of a stretch to claim that is a Right-Wing opinion.

I'd also like to know if it's your intention to be hostile or if that's just the
effect of emotionless text.

[AK]

No.

As I said before, I don't believe patriotism means anything about the
interests or government or leaders. I believe the same for Nationalism,
and instead choose to interpret my nationalism as pride in constantly
changing views that are not solely chained down and written out to be
defended by disillusioned fascists and neocons. I believe Canadian
Nationalism is almost entirely and exclusively a Left-Wing point of view,
something that is likely vastly different in other societies.

I understand that you likely feel that Nationalism is intended to prevent
change or otherwise prevent people who want change. That the idea of
cultural devotion means specifically that that culture does not adapt to
new ideas and will oppose left-wing innovation. I disagree and feel that
my culture allows and adopts change and other people. Perhaps a theory,
and even so, I agree with it.

I also disagree that it's impossible to be a Nationalist and an Internationalist.

Though, I must admit perhaps my only nationalistic reactionary thought is
towards the United States' capitalist occupation of Canada. Even then it's
a bit of a stretch to claim that is a Right-Wing opinion.

I'd also like to know if it's your intention to be hostile or if that's just the
effect of emotionless text.
First of all: you show faith in what is the working class (and it's individual thought, it seems), which in Canada is not entirely Canadian so you must be an internationalist of sorts. Secondly, nationalism doesn't prevent change. It advocates change... for only that nation (and under Capitalism, the change comes only for the Bourgeoisie, really). You don't seem to be a nationalist as you are only proud of your nation's culture and (as far as I know) you don't think your nation to be superior to other nations and maybe even races. I think it is wrong for you to call yourself a nationalist.

[Mr. Canada]

First of all: you show faith in what is the working class (and it's individual thought, it seems), which in Canada is not entirely Canadian so you must be an internationalist of sorts. Secondly, nationalism doesn't prevent change. It advocates change... for only that nation (and under Capitalism, the change comes only for the Bourgeoisie, really). You don't seem to be a nationalist as you are only proud of your nation's culture and (as far as I know) you don't think your nation to be superior to other nations and maybe even races. I think it is wrong for you to call yourself a nationalist.
You are correct in that I don't feel any literal superiority to other
nations or peoples.

I do, however, feel it is appropriate to admit that I'd drop everything
and grab a shovel to fight for this place if we were invaded.

You may very well be right that it is inappropriate to call myself a nationalist.

Perhaps my patriotism is just rather significant.

[AK]

I do, however, feel it is appropriate to admit that I'd drop everything and grab a shovel to fight for this place if we were invaded.

Fight for this place? Whose place is it, really? Would you fight to protect the Bourgeoisie or the working class? It's understandable that you would fight to defend your relativele high standard of living as opposed to third world shitholes but that would only make the state and the Bourgeoisie stronger.

[Mr. Canada]

Fight for this place? Whose place is it, really? Would you fight to protect the Bourgeoisie or the working class? It's understandable that you would fight to defend your relativele high standard of living as opposed to third world shitholes but that would only make the state and the Bourgeoisie stronger.

I'd fight in opposition to the mindless violence, fascism, and the
New Hostile Government that would have no positive interests or
respect for my culture or the people of our land. The invading force
would be likely killing innocents as the military here is considered
rather small and would be ineffective against the world's more
hostile governments - thus pretty much useless.

Whose land is it? Everyone who is here I suppose.

Consider it fighting what would almost positively be an overtly
hostile action towards Canada. An action that would destroy
thousands of lives and completely worsen the issues in our society,
completely disintegrating the progress of the people.

Plus I like our flag. I don't want it to be a bunch of shitty
stars or some lame sort of 3 bar thing.

[Dimentio]

Canada actually is a country that probably could be self-sustaining and thus achieve socialism in its own right. It has a low population density, a large agricultural sector, vast natural resources and is technologically advanced.

Theoretically, Canada could on its own develop into a socialist state (and/or a superpower). The main problem though is the vulnerability in relation to the USA.

[Mr. Canada]

Thank you, I agree. Though we'd certainly have to share with the world, :)

[Dimentio]

Oh yes, autarchy is shit.

[Die Rote Fahne]

Welcome to Rev-Left.

I'm your resident Newf.

[Taikand]

Ok, patriotic I'd say is a more ...fitting word.But I ask you one thing: you consider your nation superior?If it's only an emotional relation to a place which your personality considers home I don't find it much of a problem, only that, in my opinion you must learn that you must also be proud to be a human, an international human, but I'm just throwing my two cents in, because, as you can see this is my second or third post on this forum.

[Mr. Canada]

Thanks again for the welcomes and the excellent questions, :thumbup1:

I don't consider Canada specifically superior, no. I am proud to be a human and don't feel anyone is lower than or greater than a Canadian citizen. I also feel no one should be limited from becoming a Canadian citizen, or be limited from, on their own initiative, revoking their own citizenship.

[OldMoney]

Alberta eh! Theres telus out there for ISP, When they set people up with internet they give em a wirless router to broadcast thru thier house. The funny thing is that they always set them up with WEP incription. The wep key can easily be hacked with Linux BackTrack and a few scripts. Depending on your proximity to the router and how fast you can inject traffic onto the netowrk it should only take about 5 minutes. You can also modify USB wireless adapters to fit into tubes or onto sat dishes to boost your conectivity. There are plenty of wireless networks that are wide open too. I agree I dont think people need to pay for internet either. I dont know about that whole christianity thing though, but good luck brah!