Log in

View Full Version : Stereotypes of Black Music.



The Red Next Door
21st February 2010, 16:48
I need help doing research for My African American studies class, I need to research stereotypes of Blacks in Music. Can you help me?

revolution inaction
21st February 2010, 19:12
you never listened to any rap music? black men are gangsters who sell drugs, shoot people and fuck ho's, while waring fancy clothes and enough jewelry to stop a bullet. not so sure about the stereotypes for black women.

Vicarious
21st February 2010, 20:17
Whenever i hear rap music I start saying "Nigga Nigga ***** Ho" over and over again in a deep voice.

Look if the song is not about twentyfowes, supermaning a ho, jerkin, gitin yo dick all up in dat ahh, more than likely the video is.


I miss the days of N.W.A.

Very few artist are original.

Some people think white people are keeping the brotha down.

pierrotlefou
22nd February 2010, 03:15
so by black music you mean just rap or do you mean like jazz and afro beat

The Red Next Door
22nd February 2010, 03:41
so by black music you mean just rap or do you mean like jazz and afro beat
from rap to country.

Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg
23rd February 2010, 17:30
You could look at Blacksploitation (is that the word?) films and their soundtracks, Shaft etc

Funk/Disco steryotype...big Afri hairdo's, sunglasses etc
Blues- old man drunk, cigarette, rocking chair, porch, Alabama
Rap - Oversized clothes, drugs, rape, gun crime, gang violence or the Afrocentric big Stereo, street corner, break dancing
Reggae - spliff, dreads, hat

bayano
23rd February 2010, 22:10
yall bein ignant. a big one is the treatment of women. theres a stereotype that all African American music is misogynistic, and indeed there is a lot in some rap and blues. but theres also a lot of very positive music about and by women in both genres and all others. likewise, it ignores violence against women and other sexism in traditionally whiter musical trends like country, hard rock, metal, emo, and punk. still, its a real issue that many have tried to address, likewise homophobia

the last donut of the night
24th February 2010, 21:01
I think many leftists are ignorant when it comes to rap and buy the usual bullshit about it. We all know mainstream rap can be very mysoginistic; however, few of us remember that so is mainstream white music. Hell, watch some of of Kid Rock's videos and you'll see my point. Even so, a lot of mainstream rap has been designed and deformed to be easy on rich, white kids' ears. An example is Z100 in New York, which caters to the taste of the rich youth of Westchester County and Manhattan. It's all class-based, and it all serves the bourgeoisie. So the music is not to blame, as many leftists will say, it's on who's side it is that's the problem.

Pirate Utopian
24th February 2010, 21:26
You could look at Blacksploitation (is that the word?) films and their soundtracks, Shaft etc
Blaxploitation.
Watch Black Dynamite if you want to know about blaxploitation, it's hilarious.

bayano
24th February 2010, 22:15
But for all the folks who have no real comprehension of hip hop, they're missing a world of culture that ranges from as reactionary as they see to as radical as anyone on this sight. I don't need to enumerate the socialist, communist, pro-woman, thoughtful, respectful, or spiritual hip hop bcuz it's been done on any number of threads, but we should all know that rap is not misogynistic, anymore than blues or rock are. a genre or cultural plane is no defined by some parties that make it big within. common, talib kweli, the roots, mos def, mc lyte, tribe called quest, kanye west, rhymefest, lupe fiasco, de la soul, jill scott, and loads of others (there, enumerated) made it big and did so overwhelmingly in a positive and politically radical or progressive light

Chairman Wow
5th March 2010, 11:49
I can only assume the guy referencing NWA as an alternative to 'guns, bling and *****es' hip hop was making some kind of ironic joke?

One thing NWA does have over the majority of the acts they inspired is a strictly anti-authority message, at least in some tracks, but the materialism and misogyny is still there.

Dimentio
5th March 2010, 15:39
Here are some more "black" stereotypes. :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5NSvtWirS4

Sorry for OT, but I think that hiphop - while most artists have been black - cannot be defined as a wholly black genre any more due to its massive popularity in mainstream society.

Robespierre2.0
6th March 2010, 13:34
'Black music', whether it be spirituals, blues, funk, or hip-hop, has always been a paradox. It originates as music of the oppressed, usually lamenting the conditions that African-Americans have been forced to endure, implying the hypocrisy of the white establishment.
At the same time, because of this, it has mass appeal and is commercially viable not only to blacks but to rebellious white youth. However, instead of facing the danger of letting music that implicitly criticizes the capitalist order reach the mainstream, the white-dominated culture industry creates a watered-down version that it considers acceptable.
For example, it took Benny Goodman and Elvis Presley to make swing and rock acceptable for white audiences.
In these days, where black performers ARE acceptable, now the music industry pays them to promote bourgeois values- i.e. the criminal (bourgeois) mentality where everything is about status and monetary gain, the indifferent attitude towards others' suffering, juvenile rejection of all authority that impedes your goals etc.
Originally, the whole 'gangster' aspect of rap was meant to criticize the hypocrisy of the white establishment in giving blacks equality under the law but refusing to tackle any of the institutional problems that often makes a life of crime the only viable option.
On the contrary, these days, thanks to the culture industry, the gangster lifestyle is celebrated as the epitome of American ultra-individualism.

Vendetta
7th March 2010, 17:36
We all know mainstream rap can be very mysoginistic; however, few of us remember that so is mainstream white music.

7p64FvyOBj4

;)

Even though I love this song.

Percy Howard
20th March 2010, 06:02
I am a black musician that has had the lamentable distinction of not having their music understood by blacks or whites. too white for black, too black for white....I have collborated with Vernon Reid, Bill Laswell, Fred Frith, Jarboe (SWANS), Trey Gunn (King Crimson), Happy Rhodes, Robert Rich, Buckethead, and host of others. I can tell you first had that the expectations from all sides of the fence concerning what the output of a black astis is supposed to be hurts black artists that push the bounds of creativity and genre-bending.

more info at:

double-u double-u double-u dot percy howard dot com

Percy Howard

Delenda Carthago
20th March 2010, 15:01
i dont do black music
i dont white music
i m fight music
:thumbup1:

PHUNX
26th March 2010, 23:56
Whenever i hear rap music I start saying "Nigga Nigga ***** Ho" over and over again in a deep voice.

Look if the song is not about twentyfowes, supermaning a ho, jerkin, gitin yo dick all up in dat ahh, more than likely the video is.


I miss the days of N.W.A.

Very few artist are original.

Some people think white people are keeping the brotha down.
There's one original artist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_55ZdsfNqlI