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Saorsa
21st February 2010, 12:35
While still not fully constructed, this is still an important step for building an international network of activists in solidarity with the historic revolution unfolding in Nepal. And for a country where literally about 1% of the population have access to any kind of internet, this is pretty impressive.
http://ucpnm.org/english/index.php
Twenty first century is the century of information revolution. Globalization of information, thanks to the internet technology, has reduced the entire globe into a small rural unit. And, due to this, any positive or negative development in any corner of the earth can have its impact on the whole world in the blink of an eye.
The time we are living in is--as Lenin pointed out-- the era of imperialism and proletarian revolution. But, because of internet technology and the globalization, some features of imperialism—it's mode of hegemony—are not, needless to say, ditto as they were in the 19th century. It's obvious and logical consequence is that this very change can have a generous say upon the characteristic of contemporary proletarian revolution, into which the historical document of our party's second national conference 'Great Leap Forward : The Inevitable necessity of history' delves lucidly.
What can be the role of media in the establishment, defense and development of People's Democracy? How the media can be one of the weapons of people's scrutiny and control upon the state in the system of DEMOCRACY IN THE 21ST CENTURY? These questions, by the way, demand more time and effort to be answered. We've launched www.ucpnm.orghoping that the website would provide easy access to the information about our party, Unified Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) and our movement to all. Our party believes in no 'conspiracy theory' but mass line. 'From the people, to the people' is the basic premise of Maoist mass line. People should have easy access to information and their right to information should always be protected. And, ucpnm.org is an attempt in this direction from our side. The feedbacks, critiques and comments from our readers and viewers are always the most precious asset for us and our party.
Saorsa
21st February 2010, 12:54
Thought people might be interested in this. (http://ucpnm.org/english/doc11.php) The Maoists have translated and published the "Common Minimum Policy & Programme" adopted by their parallel government in 2001, with a detailed exposition of the changes they demand in a New Nepal. This was published almost a decade ago during a very different situation, but this should still give people some idea of what revolution in Nepal will mean in practice.
I don't think the US is going to be happy.
piet11111
21st February 2010, 13:10
a really good move to reach out to foreign leftists.
The Vegan Marxist
21st February 2010, 17:29
The only thing I see that might upset any leftist here in RevLeft is it's talk against anarchism. Either way, this site is great & will definitely reach many foreign comrades that are seeking information of the advancing revolution in Nepal.
RED DAVE
21st February 2010, 21:48
From the link in post two of this thread:
The fundamental character of New Democratic or People’s Democratic republican state shall be the people’s democratic dictatorship with the participation of all the progressive classes including the national bourgeoisie and oppressed nations/nationalities based on worker-peasant alliance under the leadership of the proletariat.(emph added)
http://ucpnm.org/english/doc11.php
What is the historic justification for including the bourgeoisie in a "people's democratic dictatorship" (whatever that is)? This is class collaboration of the crassest sort. The fox is in the hen house even before the revolution is complete.
RED DAVE
Pawn Power
21st February 2010, 22:00
a really good move to reach out to foreign leftists.
Yeah, but they should take the image of that murderous thug Stalin off their home page. :lol:
Saorsa
24th February 2010, 10:49
What is the historic justification for including the bourgeoisie in a "people's democratic dictatorship" (whatever that is)? This is class collaboration of the crassest sort. The fox is in the hen house even before the revolution is complete.
Socialism in one country is impossible, as you yourself so often point out. Therefore it is not possible to create socialism in Nepal. In which case, why do you have the right to get upset when the Maoists say that they don't plan on constructing socialism straight after the revolution?
The whole point of New Democratic revolution is that it is a transitional phase towards the point where full blown socialism becomes possible. Which, as you recognise, it is not at the moment in Nepal.
ls
24th February 2010, 11:27
While still not fully constructed, this is still an important step for building an international network of activists in solidarity with the historic revolution unfolding in Nepal. And for a country where literally about 1% of the population have access to any kind of internet, this is pretty impressive.
http://ucpnm.org/english/index.php
Twenty first century is the century of information revolution. Globalization of information, thanks to the internet technology, has reduced the entire globe into a small rural unit. And, due to this, any positive or negative development in any corner of the earth can have its impact on the whole world in the blink of an eye.
The time we are living in is--as Lenin pointed out-- the era of imperialism and proletarian revolution. But, because of internet technology and the globalization, some features of imperialism—it's mode of hegemony—are not, needless to say, ditto as they were in the 19th century. It's obvious and logical consequence is that this very change can have a generous say upon the characteristic of contemporary proletarian revolution, into which the historical document of our party's second national conference 'Great Leap Forward : The Inevitable necessity of history' delves lucidly.
What can be the role of media in the establishment, defense and development of People's Democracy? How the media can be one of the weapons of people's scrutiny and control upon the state in the system of DEMOCRACY IN THE 21ST CENTURY? These questions, by the way, demand more time and effort to be answered. We've launched www.ucpnm.orghoping that the website would provide easy access to the information about our party, Unified Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) and our movement to all. Our party believes in no 'conspiracy theory' but mass line. 'From the people, to the people' is the basic premise of Maoist mass line. People should have easy access to information and their right to information should always be protected. And, ucpnm.org is an attempt in this direction from our side. The feedbacks, critiques and comments from our readers and viewers are always the most precious asset for us and our party.
I don't think it's particularly impressive. The party before the UCPNM had existed for nearly 10+ years without a website in any language other than Hindi (and Punjabi I think), it's just expected that they have one within 10 years, diaspora communities with access to the internet in the rest of the world have made plenty of websites for other left groups (and not just in English either, in the other common languages such as Spanish, Arabic, Russian, Chinese, Turkish, French etc).
Saorsa
24th February 2010, 11:44
I don't think it's particularly impressive. The party before the UCPNM had existed for nearly 10+ years without a website in any language other than Hindi (and Punjabi I think), it's just expected that they have one within 10 years, diaspora communities with access to the internet in the rest of the world have made plenty of websites for other left groups (and not just in English either, in the other common languages such as Spanish, Arabic, Russian, Chinese, Turkish, French etc).
You are, to put it very simply, wrong. With reference to Nepal, perhaps I should say wrong as usual. The CPN (M) had an English language website for years, and although it is currently blocked by most web browsers due to apparently containing viruses and spyware that may harm your computer (a problem that only occurred sometime last year, can't remember exactly when), it still existed.
They have also found other means for getting their words out on the internet, through interviews with fraternal parties, personal websites of various leaders, and so on. You have opened your mouth to speak without checking your facts first. It's a mistaken approach you should probably work on.
Final point I'm going to make is that I think it's somewhat arrogant of English speaking Western leftists to say that it is 'expected' that a revolutionary organisation in the Third World should have an english language website. I'm very glad they do, and it helps build international solidarity for what is going on over there if they're getting their ideas out in English, but considering the abysmally weak state of the left in the English speaking world there really isn't fuck all we can do to support their life or death revolutionary struggle. And in your case, you have no interest in supporting this struggle, and would rather criticise it from a sectarian standpoint (although your not by any means the worst when it comes to this).
There's actually not a whole lot of concrete contributions the UCPN (M) can get in exchange for dedicating time, cadre and money to putting together an English language website. It's a testament to their internationalism and faith in the international revolutionary movement that they've done as much as they have.
Devrim
24th February 2010, 11:51
I don't think it's particularly impressive. The party before the UCPNM had existed for nearly 10+ years without a website in any language other than Hindi (and Punjabi I think), it's just expected that they have one within 10 years, diaspora communities with access to the internet in the rest of the world have made plenty of websites for other left groups (and not just in English either, in the other common languages such as Spanish, Arabic, Russian, Chinese, Turkish, French etc).
Without touching on its politics at all, I have to agree. Our tiny organisation, the ICC, has a website in 19 languages, and the UPCN(M) with the power of a state behind it has one in two, English and Nepali. It isn't impresive at all.
Devrim
Saorsa
24th February 2010, 12:25
and the UPCN(M) with the power of a state behind it
Exactly which state does the UCPN (M) have the power of behind it? Perhaps you should follow the same advice I gave to ls Devrim, and learn a few more facts before you start talking.
Saorsa
24th February 2010, 12:31
The UCPN (M) also has all of these websites, for the record. Not that that will stop those who know nothing from saying nothing of value.
http://cpnmintl.org/
http://baburambhattarai.com/en.php?
http://krishnasenonline.org/main/index.php?pubid=87
The website of the YCL and the old CPN (M) website are both down, from some kind of virus attack.
ls
24th February 2010, 14:08
You are, to put it very simply, wrong. With reference to Nepal, perhaps I should say wrong as usual.
Is that right? You've never actually 'defeated' me in an argument about Nepal, because where I do not have the full picture I simply admit it and where I do, I will press the point, because that's the most reasonable way of debate and it works. Most of your sources that you cite as pure fact (not party-biased propaganda) are fairly correct, which is why I rarely need to look further than the sources in UCPN(M) documents you link yourself, where I do need to, you can simply search my posts to find that I have done, either way I (where I can, constructively) criticise your beloved party and its work.
So again, point out to me where I'm "wrong as usual" please?
The CPN (M) had an English language website for years, and although it is currently blocked by most web browsers due to apparently containing viruses and spyware that may harm your computer (a problem that only occurred sometime last year, can't remember exactly when), it still existed.
Ok, I was a little wrong about that: http://web.archive.org/web/*sa_/http://www.cpnm.org/
Still, if you look through it, you can see it wasn't updated that much, most of it is the usual theoretical stuff you hear from Maoists rather than substantial news and it was last updated late in 2007, which is odd seeing as a whole year went past without much happening.
They have also found other means for getting their words out on the internet, through interviews with fraternal parties, personal websites of various leaders, and so on. You have opened your mouth to speak without checking your facts first. It's a mistaken approach you should probably work on.
You would expect them to have a better and more impressive presence on the web when Bhattarai and co come over here to give public forums and stuff, but I guess you think that's not a priority or something.
As Devrim said, the party was in power, most parties who have been in power have at least had a heavily updated site in all of the main languages, third-world or not.
Final point I'm going to make is that I think it's somewhat arrogant of English speaking Western leftists to say that it is 'expected' that a revolutionary organisation in the Third World should have an english language website. I'm very glad they do, and it helps build international solidarity for what is going on over there if they're getting their ideas out in English, but considering the abysmally weak state of the left in the English speaking world there really isn't fuck all we can do to support their life or death revolutionary struggle. And in your case, you have no interest in supporting this struggle, and would rather criticise it from a sectarian standpoint (although your not by any means the worst when it comes to this).
Is that right? So I don't make semi-constructive criticisms that stand up in general? No of course not, I'm not a Maoist so I must be a sectarian who constantly attacks this and that for no reason.
There's actually not a whole lot of concrete contributions the UCPN (M) can get in exchange for dedicating time, cadre and money to putting together an English language website. It's a testament to their internationalism and faith in the international revolutionary movement that they've done as much as they have.
This is just sloganeering, anyway I disagree, I think it's very unimpressive (remember, it's you who specifically put it out that "this is impressive" - I never said anything before that, I was just pointing the truth out and there is actually nothing 'sectarian' or wrong about that in and of itself).
scarletghoul
24th February 2010, 14:12
Without touching on its politics at all, I have to agree. Our tiny organisation, the ICC, has a website in 19 languages, bla bla bla bla bla
In addition to being factually incorrect about the state thing, I don't see why you're bragging about your organisation being tiny. Maybe the ICC should think about making revolution before making websites in any more languages.. Priorities, you know ?
bricolage
24th February 2010, 14:30
In addition to being factually incorrect about the state thing, I don't see why you're bragging about your organisation being tiny. Maybe the ICC should think about making revolution before making websites in any more languages.. Priorities, you know ?
I'm willing to bet every organisation anyone on this forum belongs to is tiny, at least he is honest about it.
red cat
24th February 2010, 15:36
I'm willing to bet every organisation anyone on this forum belongs to is tiny, at least he is honest about it.
Why do you think so ?
black magick hustla
24th February 2010, 16:34
the Third World isn't as rich as the First World. Some people have forgotten some of the basics of Marxism.
a ruling party has enough money to launch websites if mexican fulltime workers can.
Devrim
25th February 2010, 07:35
The UCPN (M) also has all of these websites, for the record. Not that that will stop those who know nothing from saying nothing of value.
http://cpnmintl.org/
http://baburambhattarai.com/en.php?
http://krishnasenonline.org/main/index.php?pubid=87
Which bring in two more languages, Hindi and Bengali, I think.
In addition to being factually incorrect about the state thing,...
Were they or were they not previously in power?
... I don't see why you're bragging about your organisation being tiny. Maybe the ICC should think about making revolution before making websites in any more languages.. Priorities, you know ?
It is not bragging about being tiny. It is just stating a fact. Websites in different languages is part of working towards building an international party. We have members in 16 countries. It is normal to have lots of languages on the website.
By the way, classes make revolutions, not tiny political organisations.
a ruling party has enough money to launch websites if mexican fulltime workers can.
1. Not a ruling party
2. Nepal not Mexico
:)
1.They were a ruling party
2.Workers are not a governing party.
Devrim
RED DAVE
25th February 2010, 12:59
While still not fully constructed, this is still an important step for building an international network of activists in solidarity with the historic revolution unfolding in Nepal. And for a country where literally about 1% of the population have access to any kind of internet, this is pretty impressive.
http://ucpnm.org/english/index.php
Twenty first century is the century of information revolution. Globalization of information, thanks to the internet technology, has reduced the entire globe into a small rural unit. And, due to this, any positive or negative development in any corner of the earth can have its impact on the whole world in the blink of an eye.
The time we are living in is--as Lenin pointed out-- the era of imperialism and proletarian revolution. But, because of internet technology and the globalization, some features of imperialism—it's mode of hegemony—are not, needless to say, ditto as they were in the 19th century. It's obvious and logical consequence is that this very change can have a generous say upon the characteristic of contemporary proletarian revolution, into which the historical document of our party's second national conference 'Great Leap Forward : The Inevitable necessity of history' delves lucidly.
What can be the role of media in the establishment, defense and development of People's Democracy? How the media can be one of the weapons of people's scrutiny and control upon the state in the system of DEMOCRACY IN THE 21ST CENTURY? These questions, by the way, demand more time and effort to be answered. We've launched www.ucpnm.orghoping (http://www.ucpnm.orghoping) that the website would provide easy access to the information about our party, Unified Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) and our movement to all. Our party believes in no 'conspiracy theory' but mass line. 'From the people, to the people' is the basic premise of Maoist mass line. People should have easy access to information and their right to information should always be protected. And, ucpnm.org is an attempt in this direction from our side. The feedbacks, critiques and comments from our readers and viewers are always the most precious asset for us and our party.People need to read the documents posted on this website.
RED DAVE
ls
25th February 2010, 17:46
The internet is not as well spread in Nepal and other Third World nations as it is in Mexico.
At least 75% of Mexicans have no internet according to official statistics, Mexico is a third-world country and that is hardly "well spread".
Bhattarai, Prachanda and co clearly have enough "partmax" money to fly to the UK to 'spread' the revolution, so they clearly have enough money to fund people in other countries to build news websites for them.
chegitz guevara
25th February 2010, 18:02
Of course communist revolutionaries in a desperately poor, even by 3rd world standards, country who are in the process of making a revolution should have made time to build a website in English so that salon revolutionaries in the First World can criticize their every proclamation. :rolleyes:
cyu
26th February 2010, 09:49
Final point I'm going to make is that I think it's somewhat arrogant of English speaking Western leftists to say that it is 'expected' that a revolutionary organisation in the Third World should have an english language website. I'm very glad they do
I would say the purpose is not to reach out to English-speaking leftists, but to help English-speaking leftists reach out to the "mainstream" population in their countries. I think it's a very strategic move from someone in Nepal, since quite often, it's going to be pro-capitalists in countries like mine that will end up supplying the funds, arms, training, black ops, and perhaps even normal ground troops to oppress the people in weaker countries.
The more opposition that pro-capitalists in powerful nations can gather against poor people fighting oppression, the more likely they will be able to change their nation's foreign policy in ever more malicious ways against places like Nepal.
Leftists in Western nations will need ammunition against these pro-capitalists. True they may not be able to convert your "mainstream" person into a leftist overnight, however, the more they are able to present the non-capitalist Nepalese point of view to even the "liberals" in their own countries, the more breathing room they can provide to the oppressed while they work on their own liberation.
ls
26th February 2010, 11:55
Bhattarai, Prachanda and co clearly have enough "partmax" money to fly to the UK to 'spread' the revolution, so they clearly have enough money to fund people in other countries to build news websites for them.
Regardless of first-world guilt and moralism, this stands true whether or not the population in Nepal has 1% access to the internet. Keeping a decent site permanently updated by sending text to people in another country with access to the site server shouldn't be particularly difficult.
As it stands, they already have made a website, as Alastair has pointed out, so I don't see what all the fuss is about at all.
Devrim
26th February 2010, 11:56
The internet is not as well spread in Nepal and other Third World nations as it is in Mexico.
98.3% of Nepalis have no internet according to official statistics.
Though one would presume that they may have had some access to it when they were running parts of the state.
Of course communist revolutionaries in a desperately poor, even by 3rd world standards, country who are in the process of making a revolution should have made time to build a website in English so that salon revolutionaries in the First World can criticize their every proclamation. :rolleyes:
Whether one thinks there is a socialist revolution going on in Nepal is a different question. I don't at all.
In a genuine socialist revolution though, I think that trying to internationalise it would be one of the utmost priorities of communists, and English is an important world language.
Devrim
ls
26th February 2010, 13:41
Tell that to your fellow attack dog.
Well, when you come out with incomprehensible garbage, expect to be called on it. That goes for everyone on this site as a general rule.
ls
26th February 2010, 14:15
Keep coming out with the racist imperialist garbage and you too can be expected to be called out.
So it's racist to say that Bhattarai and Prachanda who are members of the bourgeois, have enough money to jet out to the UK (for reasons as yet unknown) but don't have enough money to pay people to produce media in lots of different languages?
chegitz guevara
26th February 2010, 15:29
Of course, anti-communists like you would you ...
Is that really helpful?
Saorsa
27th February 2010, 02:54
So it's racist to say that Bhattarai and Prachanda who are members of the bourgeois, have enough money to jet out to the UK (for reasons as yet unknown) but don't have enough money to pay people to produce media in lots of different languages?
Erm, we know why Prachanda flew to the UK. He was touching base with supporters of the UCPN (M) in the large expat Nepali community, and he delivered a speech to them at a public gathering, part of which was in English and is available on youtube.
I also fail to see how Prachanda and Bhattarai are part of the bourgeoisie. They do not purchase the labour power of workers and extract surplus-value to maintain themselves. They are paid by the party, out of the money it raises through the voluntary contributions of its members.
Crux
27th February 2010, 03:03
Of course, anti-communists like you would you would have rather the monarchy continued.
Ooh. False-dilemma time!
Saorsa
27th February 2010, 04:55
Ooh. False-dilemma time!
While Luther is being a bit ott by suggesting that Devrim would rather see the monarchy continued, the fact of the matter is that the monarchy fell because of the People's War. The Maoists have already transformed Nepal beyond reversal, and the only question that remains unanswered is how much more it's going to change. Time will tell.
Crux
27th February 2010, 06:03
Well, yeah I am hardly an ICC sympathizer, but being critical of the UCP(m) is not the same as being in favour of the monarchy, i. e. false dilemma. Using logical fallacies like that is not a very honest way to debate.
Devrim
27th February 2010, 06:56
While Luther is being a bit ott by suggesting that Devrim would rather see the monarchy continued, the fact of the matter is that the monarchy fell because of the People's War. The Maoists have already transformed Nepal beyond reversal, and the only question that remains unanswered is how much more it's going to change. Time will tell.
The ruling class uses different forms of governance at different time. Democracy can change to fascism, democratically of course, and then back again. It doesn't change the underlying basis of the economy nor does it abolish exploitation.
Devrim
Jia
27th February 2010, 20:51
Met with some Nepalese maoists just a week ago during a meeting, they are really doing well there and have the right ideals.
RED DAVE
27th February 2010, 23:42
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The Vegan Marxist
28th February 2010, 00:00
Uh, oh. Trying to access cpnm.org led to the following:
http://www.google.com/interstitial?url=http://www.cpnm.org/
damn...it's doing the same thing over here as well.
WTF! :crying:
Saorsa
28th February 2010, 00:24
As I said Dave, the website's down. It's been like that for a year or two.
RED DAVE
28th February 2010, 00:37
As I said Dave, the website's down. It's been like that for a year or two.Must have missed that. Why has it been down for so long?
RED DAVE
red cat
28th February 2010, 01:14
Must have missed that. Why has it been down for so long?
RED DAVE
How come I can access it ?
RED DAVE
28th February 2010, 01:30
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Must have missed that. Why has it been down for so long?
How come I can access it Maybe you know the secret word. :D
RED DAVE
Weezer
28th February 2010, 01:48
Bookmarked.
ls
28th February 2010, 02:08
Erm, we know why Prachanda flew to the UK. He was touching base with supporters of the UCPN (M) in the large expat Nepali community, and he delivered a speech to them at a public gathering, part of which was in English and is available on youtube.
Ok, well that clears this up. Nonetheless, do you think that they have no money if they can afford to jet off to another country? This is the kind of impression you are painting out after all.
I also fail to see how Prachanda and Bhattarai are part of the bourgeoisie. They do not purchase the labour power of workers and extract surplus-value to maintain themselves. They are paid by the party, out of the money it raises through the voluntary contributions of its members.
Perhaps not now, economically. But they certainly were bourgeois in the past and it is not unfair to say that this might manifest itself in their actions.
red cat
28th February 2010, 02:33
Perhaps not now, economically. But they certainly were bourgeois in the past and it is not unfair to say that this might manifest itself in their actions.
As far as I know, Prachanda was a teacher and Bhattarai is from a peasant background. If this is true, then they represent the two most oppressed and revolutionary classes of Nepal.
ls
28th February 2010, 02:43
As far as I know, Prachanda was a teacher and Bhattarai is from a peasant background. If this is true, then they represent the two most oppressed and revolutionary classes of Nepal.
"Baburam Bhattarai was born in a village called Belbas in Khoplang VDC of Gorkha District. He was born in a middle class peasant family."
"Prachanda was born in Dhikur Pokhari, a village in Kaski District,[7] some 140 kilometres (87 mi) west of Nepal's capital Kathmandu.[8][9][10] Prachanda spent much of his childhood in Chitwan district. He is from an upper caste, Brahmin, and landlord family. He received a Bachelor of Science in Agriculture (BSc-Ag) from the Institute of Agriculture and Animal Science (IAAS) in Rampur, Chitwan, and was once employed at a rural development project sponsored by USAID, the project site being Jajarkot."
Never seen anything to dispute these claims, but if anyone can do so, then of course I am willing to listen.
RED DAVE
28th February 2010, 02:49
As far as I know, Prachanda was a teacher and Bhattarai is from a peasant background. If this is true, then they represent the two most oppressed and revolutionary classes of Nepal.
Prachanda was born in Dhikur Pokhari, a village in Kaski District,[7] some 140 kilometres (87 mi) west of Nepal's capital Kathmandu.[8][9][10] Prachanda spent much of his childhood in Chitwan district. He is from an upper caste, Brahmin, and landlord family. He received a Bachelor of Science in Agriculture (BSc-Ag) from the Institute of Agriculture and Animal Science (IAAS) in Rampur, Chitwan, and was once employed at a rural development project sponsored by USAID, the project site being Jajarkot.[11]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prachanda
Baburam Bhattarai was born in a village called Belbas in Khoplang VDC of Gorkha District. He was born in a middle class peasant family.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baburam_Bhattarai
RED DAVE
red cat
28th February 2010, 04:08
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prachanda
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baburam_Bhattarai
RED DAVE
I will look into sources for information on Bhattarai later, but here (http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/368287/1/.html) is what I already found on Prachanda:
Born into a high-caste but poor farming family, Prachanda -- whose real name is Pushpa Kamal Dahal -- was driven to politics by the extreme poverty he witnessed in rural Nepal. And considering the fact that his wife is a christian, we know that he couldn't care less for caste or religion.
Look into more sources, I am sure that many will agree with me.
And here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Himguard) is the user's page who probably first put in that false information about Prachanda being a "landlord". I am quoting some of his other contributions in bold :
The [[home minister]] said that the incident was very sad. He also said that the incident would not occur again and that the deed was done by those who wanted no peace and stability in the country. King [[Gyanendra]], who was unpopular among some people, was the first to face such an incident during the long history of the Shah dynasty. It is said this incident was all staged by Maoist to topple monarchy and come into absolute power.
On the occasion of the [[Maha shivaratri]], the King went to the [[Pashupatinath temple]] for worshipping [[lord Shiva]]. The cars escorting Gyanendra were stoned by unknown persons (predicted as Maoists) in the temple area. While the King was entering the temple, some people protested against the monarchy and the King.
The long decade so-called people’s war ultimately led the Maoists to Nepal’s parliament which became a great mishap to the country. After winning a remarkable majority in the Constitutional Assembly elections, Prachanda was nominated for the Prime Ministership by the party<ref>[http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/DEL223504.htm "Nepal Maoists want their chief as president"], Reuters (AlertNet), 25 January 2008.</ref> In the April 2008 Constituent Assembly election, he was elected from Kathmandu constituency-10, winning by a large margin and receiving nearly twice as many votes as his nearest rival, the candidate of the [[Nepali Congress]].
There was an eight point understanding between the government and the Maoist rebels. After having talk with the Prime Minister, Prachanda speaking to the media said that the peace talks was back on progress besides the setback at past. The public appearance of the rebel leader created a sensation in Nepal. The Maoist chief claimed that the understanding would give a new political direction to Nepal. Stating that the deal was ‘a historical one’, Prachanda said that Nepal would soon be transformed into a republic after CA elections. Althought, Nepal became republic as per his say but now it is at the worst situation ever. His greed of power has separated the only Hindu Kingdom to terai, magarat, kirat, tharuwan, limbuwan, on and on. Because of illeteracy and oppresion of lower caste, Prachanda and his fellow Maosist leaders quickly won the heart of innoncent Nepalese, but now their popularity is diminishing rapidly. We all fear if one of the Maoist comrade will retaliate and assassin Prachanda, Baburam Bhattarai, Barsa Man Pun, Badal, etc. Nepal is so-called republic or Bhad Vailo Tantra. The truth is it has become third failure state after Afganishtan and Iraq. Thus, there is a high chance of Nepal stepping back to Monarchy and only Hindu nation.
|name = Pushpa Kamal Dahal, Khate, Chor, Dacoit, Murderer of 13,000 Innocent Nepali, Selfish, dirty politician who is self directed to be President and force everyone to follow Prachandapath (His Way)<br><small></small> And he also seems to be very fond of the "List of Rajputs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Rajputs)" page.
Had Prachanda even been a landlord previously, his dedicated service to the cause of the revolution would have only proved him to be a hardcore communist all the more. Clearly, the user who made this edit is a supporter of the feudal system himself. Then why is he so eager to state that Prachanda comes from a land-lord background ? Simply because he wants to mark him a reactionary from a seemingly more radical point of view, now that the masses have correctly identified rightism and the feudal system as enemies. This is what rightists do when they lose their paradise. We already know that a Trotskyite organization has been formed in Nepal. Let us enjoy the political drama coming up.
Saorsa
28th February 2010, 05:21
@ LS: Middle class does not mean the same thing as bourgeois, and is being used in a completely meaningless manner here. A brief wikipedia reference without links to any evidence claiming that the Maoist leaders were 'middle class' is not evidence of anything.
Here's information about Prachanda's past, back when he was a teacher. As far as I can tell, he has never been in a job that could in any way be described as 'bourgeois'.
http://www.nepalitimes.com/issue/2008/03/14/Nation/14582
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Villagers recall a school teacher who became a revolutionary
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BLAST FROM THE PAST: Pushpa Kamal Dahal (left), with former colleague Ganesh Kumar Shrestha (right) and an unidentified friend.
In 1976, when Pushpa Kamal Dahal picked up his suitcase to leave Arughat, the villagers came out to see him off. At the bus stop, a crowd stood round him, many weeping.
Two years earlier when he arrived in this village in Gorkha, Dahal was a fresh graduate from the Rampur Campus in Chitwan, and came to teach agriculture at Arughat's Bhimodaya High School.
"A talented teacher," recalls Satrughan Shrestha, an ex-student, "he never had to refer to the textbooks and would tell us interesting stories to keep our attention on the subject."
"He gave us a lot of homework," recalls another student, Krishna Kumar Shrestha, "and after dinner he went door to door to make sure we were doing it."
No one ever saw him lose his temper or raise his voice. He chose patience over punishment. During the two years, Dahal taught at the school, it achieved an unprecedented 100 percent pass rate in agriculture.
Students say they respected him, but he also maintained friendly relations outside school hours. "When he caught us peeking at him swimming in the river, instead of reprimanding, he would call for us to join him," recalls Shurendra Prasad, now a retired grandfather.
It has been 32 years since Dahal left Arughat to lead the Maoist movement and became Comrade Prachanda. Dahal was a strong believer in education, locals remember, and he taught illiterate adults in the evening, four days a week.
During his free time, he would go down to the fields to demonstrate modern farming techniques to improve harvests. He was also the first to teach villagers how to build outhouses and chimneys. Honest, helpful and responsible, that is how most people here remember the man.
But more difficult to believe may be that the Maoist chairman was an avid dancer, and choreographed performances that won the village first place in two local dance competitions. Ganesh Kumar Shrestha, a colleague, admitted that Dahal wasn't the best dancer in the world. "But he was very creative," he hastened to add.
Just about everyone in the neighbourhood knew that Dahal detested the monarchy. "He was against the caste system, and used to stress the importance of equality," said Bhuban Pasad Shrestha, Dahal's former landlord in Arughat.
When cleaning Prachanda's room, Bhuban once chanced upon a stack of communist books, including Das Kapital and others by Mao and Lenin, which he had been hiding under his bed. It being the Panchayat era, political parties and communist literature were banned.
But villagers remember that Dahal was quite open about his beliefs. Sukbahadur Nepali, who attended Prachanda's night classes, said that the literacy lessons were sometimes more like communist sermons. Another man, who had joined the dance competition, realised later that the tune, Najau Bides, chosen by Prachanda, was actually a communist song.
Dahal doesn't seem to have tried to foist his ideology on the young minds at school. None of the former students interviewed was aware their teacher was a communist. But a passing comment he once made to a colleague perhaps hinted at his political aspirations. "If I want to be a minister of the country, I can easily achieve that," he had said.
With elections around the corner, no one is predicting which way the vote will go in Arughat which suffered from the brutality of the war years. But if Dahal was a candidate here, he may have a good chance of winning.
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