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LeninistKing

20th February 2010, 05:21

Hello all, watch this video about Obama's first year in power by Larry Holmes of the Workers Party, and the creation of Tea Party by capitalists as a tool to kill and destroy socialism in America.

http://workers.blip.tv/#1286567

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The Idler

20th February 2010, 21:02

Specifically, what "socialist" organisations are the Tea Party destroying?

LeninistKing

20th February 2010, 22:07

Wolf Larson

21st February 2010, 01:19

hello my friend: Well Larry Holmes says that the Tea Party is created by capitalists as a tool to break up and weaken the strength of the left in United States. Watch the video its real good

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I agree. During this capitalist crisis socialist solidarity and a strong socialist movement should have manifested BUT it didn't. BOTH Obama and the Tea Party movement are separate BUT both represent the capitalists attempts to control the system. Our voice has been marginalized by liberals AND the Tea Party movement. both liberals and the Tea Party movement are controlled from the top down by capitalists.

APathToTake

21st February 2010, 01:46

Thanks for the link. Watching it now.
Interesting to hear that there have been more deaths, from drone attacks, on a wider range of countries, under Obama in contrast to Bush.

I wasn't aware of this

Jimmie Higgins

21st February 2010, 02:10

I agree. During this capitalist crisis socialist solidarity and a strong socialist movement should have manifested BUT it didn't. BOTH Obama and the Tea Party movement are separate BUT both represent the capitalists attempts to control the system. Our voice has been marginalized by liberals AND the Tea Party movement. both liberals and the Tea Party movement are controlled from the top down by capitalists.

Right, but I think that a working class movement can still potentially (and must) be built from this crisis because the effects of it on the working class are going to have long-lasting consequences.

I would also say that while the ruling class has helped initiate and fund the tea-party movement, it is not in their control in the same way establishment liberal and conservatives exist only to serve the ruling class's interests. There is a genuine right-wing populism connected with the Tea-parties - in some ways this scares me much more than regular conservatives because it can lead to a fascist movement and it also can pull popular anger at the crisis to the far right rather than to a working class resistance.

LeninistKing

21st February 2010, 03:04

Not only that, but from what i've been noticing Obama is a lot worse than Bush, we are fucked up. Watch this video about the installation of a nazi totalitarian dictatorship with martial laws, curfews, illegal assasinations of US citizens, we are fucked up !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEAWz3Cr2NY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEAWz3Cr2NY)

I agree. During this capitalist crisis socialist solidarity and a strong socialist movement should have manifested BUT it didn't. BOTH Obama and the Tea Party movement are separate BUT both represent the capitalists attempts to control the system. Our voice has been marginalized by liberals AND the Tea Party movement. both liberals and the Tea Party movement are controlled from the top down by capitalists.

The Idler

21st February 2010, 12:36

hello my friend: Well Larry Holmes says that the Tea Party is created by capitalists as a tool to break up and weaken the strength of the left in United States. Watch the video its real good

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I think you're a tool created by capitalists to weaken the strength of the left in the United States ;). The Tea Party are a hard-right reaction to Democrats and "liberals" (and to an extent the soft-right) not the emaciated and largely unknown US left.

LeninistKing

21st February 2010, 20:31

I am a tool to weaken the strength of fake-socialists like you. Who think that they will overthrow the capitalist system by listening to anarcho punk and wearing punk rock T Shirts

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I think you're a tool created by capitalists to weaken the strength of the left in the United States ;). The Tea Party are a hard-right reaction to Democrats and "liberals" (and to an extent the soft-right) not the emaciated and largely unknown US left.

LeninistKing

21st February 2010, 20:34

Oh by the way Noam Chomsky is a closet-capitalist he has 200 million dollars in his personal account

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I think you're a tool created by capitalists to weaken the strength of the left in the United States ;). The Tea Party are a hard-right reaction to Democrats and "liberals" (and to an extent the soft-right) not the emaciated and largely unknown US left.

Wolf Larson

21st February 2010, 21:14

Right, but I think that a working class movement can still potentially (and must) be built from this crisis because the effects of it on the working class are going to have long-lasting consequences.

I would also say that while the ruling class has helped initiate and fund the tea-party movement, it is not in their control in the same way establishment liberal and conservatives exist only to serve the ruling class's interests. There is a genuine right-wing populism connected with the Tea-parties - in some ways this scares me much more than regular conservatives because it can lead to a fascist movement and it also can pull popular anger at the crisis to the far right rather than to a working class resistance.

The Tea people are mostly brainwashed into blaming this crisis on socialism. Did you go to their rally in San Fransisco? I did. These shifty Michael Savage mother fuckers....you're right. It could very well turn into a fascist movement [if it already isn't]. I've been trying to tell people about the so called anarcho capitalists- they've managed to build their ranks by the thousands because of these Tea Parties. I'm not sure who's more of a threat to socialism, liberals or these Tea Party people? So many people have been inoculated with subjective capitalist propaganda I don't even know where to start. I thought the internet would help cut some of the propaganda out but the TV/Radio game is running strong. Many of us dropped the ball in supporting Obama early on....I've been strongly criticizing this guy from day one and took A LOT of flak over it early on. I knew he was going to represent corporate DLC [Democratic Leadership Council] policy. Rahm Emanuel in the white house = pure corporate agenda. It was Rahm who put together Obama's Wall St funding- this guy is a little scum bag. If you read his book The Plan; Big Ideas For America you'll see Obama's corporate pro war policies articulated three years ago.

Wolf Larson

21st February 2010, 21:17

Wolf Larson

21st February 2010, 21:18

Oh by the way Noam Chomsky is a closet-capitalist he has 200 million dollars in his personal account

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EDIT: You should look into NOT posting Alex Jones videos. How old are you? You are aware that guy is both a crazy fraud and strongly anti socialist aren't you? I've seen you use the term NWO a couple times which is basically the right wingers conspiracy theory to blame everything wrong with capitalism on shady imaginary communist bankers.

The Idler

22nd February 2010, 19:27

I am a tool to weaken the strength of fake-socialists like you. Who think that they will overthrow the capitalist system by listening to anarcho punk and wearing punk rock T Shirts

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I suppose I should take that as seriously as "The Tea Party is trying to destroy the left" or the Alex Jones videos you have posted.

Oh by the way Noam Chomsky is a closet-capitalist he has 200 million dollars in his personal account

.So if you're rich you can't be anti-capitalist? By the way, its more like $2m and that kind of critique comes from the right who can't address socialism so that attack the person instead.