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Wanted Man
20th February 2010, 04:47
Dutch government falls over Afghanistan mission

By John Tyler
Created 20 February 2010 4:48
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The Dutch government has fallen as a rift between coalition parties over extending Dutch military participation in Afghanistan could not be healed.



"Later today, I will will offer to her majesty the Queen the resignations of the ministers and deputy ministers of the PvdA (Labour Party)," Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende told journalists.

News of the collapse came in the early hours of Saturday morning following 16 hours of crisis meetings and days of speculation that the differences between the coalition parties had simply become too great to bridge.

The stand-off began after Deputy Prime Minister Wouter Bos, leader of the Labour Party, drew a line in the sand over extending the Dutch mission in the southern Afghan province of Uruzgan - coalition partners wanted to consider this option after a specific request from NATO to do so.
This was Mr Balkenende's fourth cabinet. It was also the fourth time he failed to carry a coalition to the end of the full four-year term.


Uneasy coalition
Uneasy compromise typified the coalition from the beginning. The centre-right Christian Democrats (and its predecessors) had governed with the centre-left Labour Party before. But the two parties have trouble forming a stable coalition.


Balkenende IV was no exception. Difficulties were already apparent during the negotiations to form the government in the winter of 2007. All three coalition partners, the two larger parties plus the smaller Christian Union, had to compromise on major issues.


During three years of government, many decisions were made only after long disagreement inside the cabinet. These included plans to raise the government pension age, how long to try to keep government expenditures up in the wake of the economic downturn, and whether or not to keep investing in the development of a new fighter plane, the Joint Strike Fighter.


Uruzgan
The issue where a compromise could not be found – whether or not to extend the military mission in the unruly Afghan province of Uruzgan - was itself not new. The cabinet decided back in the autumn of 2007 to extend the mission to Uruzgan by two years.
But the Labour Party felt it could not compromise again on an extension of the military mission. The criticism of Dutch support for the invasion of Iraq, presented by the independent Davids Commission in early January, only reinforced the Labour Party's resolve.

Save face abroad
The fall of the government may, paradoxically, help the Netherlands save face abroad. At NATO headquarters, as well as in the United States, there is little understanding for the Labour Party veto of extending the military mission in Uruzgan. The Netherlands pulling out of Uruzgan is a source of irritation both in Brussels and Washington. The Netherlands even risks losing its hard-earned seat at the G20 meetings.


But a cabinet crisis is seen as a reasonable excuse, even if the end result - pulling out of Uruzgan - remains the same.


Unstable
Of perhaps greater consequence is what the fall of the cabinet means for Dutch politics. Nearly ten years ago, this country was shocked by the sudden rise of the populist politician, Pim Fortuyn, and even more shocked by his murder. More recently, the right-wing politician Geert Wilders underscores a long-term trend in Dutch politics: instability.


The Dutch electorate is famously fractured - no one party can ever hope to form a majority, and eight or more parties typically gain seats in parliament (there are currently eleven parties in the Dutch parliament). Plus, Dutch voters no longer identify very strongly with the traditional political parties.
This combination makes it possible for a Pim Fortuyn, or a Geert Wilders, to suddenly rise to prominence with the support of as little as ten percent of the population.

The Wilders factor
Geert Wilders has profited from the current political climate. And he will play a major role in the upcoming election, even if his Freedom Party does not become the largest party. Mr Wilders is a polarising figure, and the campaign is likely to feature a camp on the right that will consider governing in a coalition with Mr Wilders, and a camp on the left that rules it out.



But the major parties will not likely make up much of the ground they've been losing, and the next coalition could need four or more parties (in place of the usual two or three) to form a majority. During a time of economic recovery, the Netherlands is entering a period of political instability.



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Celebrations are in order.

Q
20th February 2010, 06:36
Party! :D

Sasha
20th February 2010, 13:42
anarchism may be a long time away but anarkeeee! is here and now... :lol:

Dimentio
20th February 2010, 14:14
Is it true that Wilders's party could become the largest?

Wanted Man
20th February 2010, 14:50
The possibility exists. It will either be his party, or the Christian Democrats will take the #1 spot again. It's quite important, because the leader of the biggest party traditionally becomes the prime minister.

The next government might deviate from the traditions, though. Wilders has already said that if a majority government can't be formed, then he wouldn't mind the Danish solution: a minority government with harsh immigration policies, backed by the far-right (Wilders in this case).

Dimentio
20th February 2010, 15:01
The possibility exists. It will either be his party, or the Christian Democrats will take the #1 spot again. It's quite important, because the leader of the biggest party traditionally becomes the prime minister.

The next government might deviate from the traditions, though. Wilders has already said that if a majority government can't be formed, then he wouldn't mind the Danish solution: a minority government with harsh immigration policies, backed by the far-right (Wilders in this case).

Would his party accept it if it become the largest?

Wanted Man
20th February 2010, 15:56
Accept what?

Dimentio
20th February 2010, 16:50
Accept what?

That it would become a support party for a right-centrist government?

I mean, it is unlikely that any single party would attain a majority in this election. Hence, there are only a few possible scenarios.

A left-centrist coalition government.

A right-centrist coalition government with the support of the PVV.

A right-centrist coalition government without the support of the PVV.

A PVV government with the support of the right-centrist parties (extremely unlikely).

It is also quite unlikely with a left-wing government, since in a three-way race between rightists, leftists and fascists, the right tend to become dominant and the centre would shift to the right unless there is a well-organised left-wing movement to counter the development or there is a major polarisation of society.

I start to become afraid that the most likely result of the Dutch election is the ostracisation of moderate centrist parties like the social democrats and a heavier right-wing tilt due to the populism of the PVV.

Where does the PVV stand in the Afghanistan question?

Sasha
20th February 2010, 17:07
That it would become a support party for a right-centrist government?

I mean, it is unlikely that any single party would attain a majority in this election. Hence, there are only a few possible scenarios.

A left-centrist coalition government.

A right-centrist coalition government with the support of the PVV.

A right-centrist coalition government without the support of the PVV.

A PVV government with the support of the right-centrist parties (extremely unlikely).

It is also quite unlikely with a left-wing government, since in a three-way race between rightists, leftists and fascists, the right tend to become dominant and the centre would shift to the right unless there is a well-organised left-wing movement to counter the development or there is a major polarisation of society.

i'm afraid that you have to read up on your dutch politics.
since WW2 we always have had coalition goverments, most of the time with 3 partys.

we have a lot of partys and because of the coalition nescesity even the smallest of those can be put in a position that they can make or break the goverment.

partys that are set to lose are: PVDA - socialdemocrats (a lot), CDA - christian democrats (not mutch might still remain the biggest),SP = (populist) socialist, VVD = liberal conservatives (a bit).
set to win are: PVV = extreme right (a lot), D66 = left-liberals (a lot), GroenLinks = green-left (a bit)
probilly about the same will stay: CU = moderate/evangelical christian fundies, Partij vd Dieren = animal rights party, TON = populist right wing splinter, SGP = protestant fundamentalists.

there is a chance for a VVD/CDA(PVV) goverment but i think the chances on a "leftist" D66, SP, PVDA, GreenLeft are almost as big.

there is realy no saying what it will be, early march there will be local elections, only after that i think we can make an better assesment.