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abbielives!
18th February 2010, 21:41
anyone have any ideas on how to counter this free speech talking point? we haven't been doing so well...

background:


Tension fills Oregon campus over extremists
(AP) – Feb 11, 2010
EUGENE, Ore. — The students stomped their feet, heckled and then stood and turned their backs as the speaker at the University of Oregon defended red-baiting Sen. Joseph McCarthy and called Martin Luther King Jr. a communist dupe.
With more than 30 security officers assigned to keep the peace, the 90-something patriarch of the group sat in a wheelchair next to the speaker, silently observing the spectacle while at times half-asleep.
A campus with a reputation for young, leftist radicals has been roiled in protest in recent weeks as the aging collection of extremists — deemed a hate group by those who track the issue — has intensified its message, including a Hitler salute at an event in December.
Some students say their speech has made the university a dangerous place and want them banned from campus. Administrators now find themselves trapped between the ideal of tolerance and the right to free speech, searching for a way to have both.
Charles Martinez, the university's vice president for institutional equity and diversity, said administrators have been meeting to decide whether to change school policy on the use of space by outside groups. "They haven't been easy discussions," he said. "They shouldn't be easy."
Pacifica Forum was founded more than 15 years ago by Orval Etter, a 94-year-old retired professor and self-described "Quaker at heart" who resides in an assisted-living facility.
According to its Web site, the forum's mission is to "provide information and perspective on the issues of war and peace, militarism and pacifism, violence and non-violence." The group includes a furious anti-communist, a kilt-wearing Nazi sympathizer and perhaps not a single person born later than 1960.
The group met off campus for years until, according to Etter, Jewish groups unhappy with what they considered an anti-Israel slant pressured a local church to drop them. Etter then took advantage of a university policy in which retired faculty can book rooms on campus for free.
Pacifica has fewer than 10 core members and no firm rules for deciding who delivers a free lecture. "The forum has been, in a quite genuine way, an expression of free speech," Etter said.
Many topics have been tackled, but the group has gained attention for hosting speakers who question the Holocaust. In 2008, for example, Pacifica invited David Irving, who served time in an Austrian prison for violating the country's law against denying the Nazis exterminated 6 million Jews during War World II.
Paul Bessemer, director of Hillel, a campus Jewish organization, has monitored Pacifica for years. He said Pacifica members have long had sympathy for the Palestinian cause, but the current batch has taken it in a darker direction.
"It's got a much nastier tone than it used to," Bessemer said. "Those people that were really pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel — on the principal that Israel doesn't have a right to exist — have left over the anti-Semitism."
Since the Hitler salute at a Pacifica presentation in December, scores of protesters — some silent, some not — have attended meetings once largely ignored. Mercedes White Calf, a junior, said she initially thought Pacifica should remain on campus as a free speech issue. She now believes the hostility is creating a dangerous situation and the group must go.
The tension escalated last week when someone spray-painted a 4-foot-by-4-foot swastika in the office of the Lesbian Gay Bisexual Trans Queer Alliance. Though no Pacifica members are suspected, one of its January lectures focused on the symbolism of the swastika.
April-Kay Williams said the vandalism prompted her decision to leave the university. "It may be common to you but I've never experienced hate like this before," Williams said in an e-mail. She added: "I do not want to be on a campus where the president talks about diversity and inclusiveness but still allows a hate group on campus."
Roughly 100 students rallied Friday before Pacifica's most recent gathering. Holding signs such as "Pacifica Forum Nazi Dupes," and "Smash Fascism," the students urged the group to leave campus — voluntarily or by university edict.
The students marched to the edge of campus, where Valdas Anelauskas, a Lithuanian immigrant and racial separatist, lectured for more than hour, partly on the role of Jews in the Bolshevik Revolution. Protesters regularly challenged him.
"Filtered and twisted facts," shouted Joseph Newton, 51, of Eugene.



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Decolonize The Left
18th February 2010, 22:26
You may wish to adopt a multi-pronged approach.

In the first place, petition the proper authorities over this matter. Get as many students to sign, get locals to sign, get businesses to sign, and deliver the populist message. This will cause the administration to consider the people who are 'silent' (i.e. not protesting) and will put the issue into perspective.

In the second place, protests are fine, but you may wish to consider actually obstructing these meetings. Not literally with blockades but in a fashion which skirts the line of what is 'allowed.' For example, if the meeting is being held in a room in a building, occupy the adjacent rooms and make lots of noise. Have the protesters make noise outside as well in order to apply pressure to the comfort of the reactionaries. Or, if you know the room in which the meeting is to be held, get there early and move all the furniture, put up posters, remove the light bulbs, etc... If you adopt this tactic, make sure the other rooms are occupied so they can't relocate.

In the third place, continue doing what you're doing - keep it up. :thumbup1:

- August

Wolf Larson
20th February 2010, 02:39
I've often wondered if paying attention to them gives them purpose. I still oppose fascists head on but I still wonder.

RED DAVE
20th February 2010, 22:41
In my opinion, to "petitionthe authorities" to ban these nazi scum is a serious mistake. To do so is to give them the right to say who can speak and who can't. Cede them that power and they'll ban the Left quicker than a shot.

The answer is to protest, challenge, picket, educate, provoke, etc. And never engage in violence against these shits until they start the violence themselves.

RED DAVE