Material Basis for Right Libretarian Ideology?

[La Comédie Noire]

I've noticed a lot of the people who claim to be Libertarians are computer or technical experts. I think they embrace the market because they are a commodity in high demand and are of a limited supply. This allows them to fetch a high price while working in a good environment with a reasonable measure of autonomy.

I know of one friend who was offered a starting salary of $36,000 a year fresh out of a two year school and he already makes quite a bit of money dealing with minor problems the technophobic older generation is too incompetent to fix.

However, I think, this is going to change as the market becomes flooded with computer experts. This is a trend Marx noted in his own day when he criticized the petit bourgeois attitude of Artisans, who thought their labor would always be of high value.

It seems to me unionization is a defense mechanism for the working class, class solidarity is created because of the need to control the supply of labor to keep wages at a decent level. Perhaps after globalization drives wages so low we will have a more receptive audience that doesn't harbor delusions of a free market?

[Die Neue Zeit]

I have noticed that a bit, but the general trend is that the self-employed class as a whole is the basis for "libertarianism."

Not even the proper small business owner, who works outside the home (shops, offices, factories) to make money, is gung-ho into this ideology.

[Zanthorus]

After lurking the mises forums for a bit I have come to notice that every other poster on there is some kind of enterepeneur or middle-management type/IT expert.

If you read some of their literature you'll see a lot about how modern technology is going to destroy big business and give power to some underground "counter-economy".

Definitely the musings of the self-employed and petit-bourgeoisie.

[Die Neue Zeit]

Actually, the demographic of middle management isn't really that propertarian.

[La Comédie Noire]

After lurking the mises forums for a bit I have come to notice that every other poster on there is some kind of enterepeneur or middle-management type/IT expert.

If you read some of their literature you'll see a lot about how modern technology is going to destroy big business and give power to some underground "counter-economy".

Definitely the musings of the self-employed and petit-bourgeoisie.

They should pay attention to history, new technology often degrades the petit bourgeois to the level of a wage earner.

[A.J.]

I've noticed a lot of the people who claim to be Libertarians are computer or technical experts. I think they embrace the market because they are a commodity in high demand and are of a limited supply. This allows them to fetch a high price while working in a good environment with a reasonable measure of autonomy.

I know of one friend who was offered a starting salary of $36,000 a year fresh out of a two year school and he already makes quite a bit of money dealing with minor problems the technophobic older generation is too incompetent to fix.

However, I think, this is going to change as the market becomes flooded with computer experts. This is a trend Marx noted in his own day when he criticized the petit bourgeois attitude of Artisans, who thought their labor would always be of high value.

It seems to me unionization is a defense mechanism for the working class, class solidarity is created because of the need to control the supply of labor to keep wages at a decent level. Perhaps after globalization drives wages so low we will have a more receptive audience that doesn't harbor delusions of a free market?

The thing I notice about these petty-bourgeois "libertarians" is that they label any form of government regulation of the economy "socialism". :rolleyes:

On a broader point I think that, whilst most of the middle strata can be won over the revolution in the Third World, they're pretty much a lost cause in the metropolises of imperialism.
Furthermore, if the shit hits the fan for them they have a nasty tendency to turn to fascism(just look at Italy and Germany after WW1 and the Great Depression, respectively).

[La Comédie Noire]

The thing I notice about these petty-bourgeois "libertarians" is that they label any form of government regulation of the economy "socialism". :rolleyes:

On a broader point I think that, whilst most of the middle strata can won over the revolution in the Third World, they're pretty much a lost cause in the metropolises of imperialism.
Furthermore, if the shit hits the fan for them they have nasty tendency to turn to fascism.(just look at Italy and Germany after WW1 and the Great Depression, respectively.)

I get the opposite impression of the middle strata in the third world. Usually their first act in response to a revolution will be an attempt to flea the country, something they were going to do anyways once they had the money saved up.

But I do agree, the petit bourgeois cannot be a class for itself, it can only hold back progress in the hopes of keeping their status.