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Communist
17th February 2010, 22:04
Bourgeois press article, interesting for a look at another relatively unknown part of the so-called Recovery Act.

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A Stimulus for Food Cops' Appetites (http://www.consumerfreedom.com/news_detail.cfm/headline/4108)
the Center for Consumer Freedom

(http://www.consumerfreedom.com/news_detail.cfm/headline/4108) In case you missed it, we noted last week that the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (http://www.recovery.gov/Pages/home.aspx) (an economic stimulus bill passed by Congress last year) includes hundreds of thousands of dollars in grants to decrease the consumption of sugar-sweetened beverages (http://www.hhs.gov/recovery/programs/stateinitiatives.html).

New York (home of the self-anointed Big Apple food police (http://www.consumerfreedom.com/news_detail.cfm/h/4054-one-big-apple-with-extra-guilt-trip)) will receive $259,931 to reduce consumption of sugar-sweetened beverages. And $1,198,785 is earmarked for Colorado to, among other things, reduce soft drink consumption.

In other words, the federal government is using taxpayer dollars to tell taxpayers what not to buy. (Clearly, this is what the Founding Fathers had in mind.)

Its hard to see how this part of the recovery plan helps regular Americans get healthier.

For one, sugar-sweetened beverage consumption is not associated with youth weight gain, according to a growing body of academic research (http://www.consumerfreedom.com/news_detail.cfm/h/4028-soda-scam-goes-hollywood).

There are also serious doubts about the reliability (http://www.consumerfreedom.com/news_detail.cfm/h/4045-obesity-research-not-so-reliable) of contradictory research supposedly proving a link between soft drink consumption and obesity. So reducing consumption isnt likely to have positive health effects.

These recovery grants may simply be a new food-police approach to the familiar goals of unpopular (http://www.consumerfreedom.com/pressRelease_detail.cfm/r/296-consumer-group-to-governor-paterson-new-yorkers-dont-want-a-new-soda-tax) soft drink taxes the supposed solution to the soda crisis. Both Colorado and New York are considering similar taxes. (One plan just squeaked through (http://www.denverpost.com/ci_14414540) the Centennial States legislature.)

Both have drawn severe criticismincluding a protest at an Empire State bottling plant (http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/story/Local-Coke-bottling-plant-to-protest-Sugar-Tax/KVk1cr8ysEWOorer8b37_g.cspx)on the basis that the taxes will cost jobs by shrinking businesses. One estimate puts the job loss at up to 800 (http://www.statebillnews.com/2010/02/hb10-1191-senate-gop-ups-opposition-to-%E2%80%98twinkie-tax%E2%80%99/) in Colorado alone.

Federal government grants could have the same effect on employment if they were to actually succeed in their goal to reduce soft drink consumption. Its hard to see how job loss fits into the feds plan for economic stimulus. Maybe the grants are just a way to help diet dictators recover from bingeing on heavy-handed naysayingand stay gainfully employed.
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jake williams
18th February 2010, 01:53
Are you fucking serious?

"The Centre for Consumer Freedom"

FreeFocus
18th February 2010, 02:04
While the particular measure is questionable (I don't think taxing soda is the answer), soda is garbage, I don't think that's up for debate. I used to be addicted to Mountain Dew for example, but it has no nutritional value and contains ingredients that contribute to bone deterioration and, yes, diabetes and related conditions.

Axle
18th February 2010, 02:44
Ah, mindless pro-business rhetoric: "Consume and be free".


So reducing consumption isn’t likely to have positive health effects.

Really? Reducing empty calories and lots of sugar isn't going to have health benefits?

Sendo
18th February 2010, 04:32
We can take an idealist stance and say it's our choice to harm ourselves with soda or a materialist and non-dogmatist outlook and realize that soda is harmful, the industry is morally bankrupt, we don't have perfect abundance and the industry is notoriously wasteful, and it's a health hazard--if America got healthier it would help the pleas for universal healthcare. One of the attacks on Sicko was the obvious liability factor of Michael Moore under such a system. While incredibly disproportionate and unfair, Michael Moore still worked to lose weight and I applaud him for that.

If freedom is being able to buy Coca-Cola or Pepsi and get diabetes, I'll take the commie olive jumpsuit and enjoy parties, sunlight and all those privileges that life gives.

Revy
18th February 2010, 05:36
The extra calories in regular soda can contribute to weight gain. Unless you're prepared to cut down on your food intake just to make room for empty sugar calories that you drink.

Also, it will contribute to tooth decay.

So yeah, it's bad.

Sendo
19th February 2010, 15:56
The extra calories in regular soda can contribute to weight gain. Unless you're prepared to cut down on your food intake just to make room for empty sugar calories that you drink.

Also, it will contribute to tooth decay.

So yeah, it's bad.

I think the USDA could cite this thread for its PSAs.
Inversely, so could the soft drink companies. "Look at these commie bastards saying you can't drink soda."

I wonder if this will have the effect of making people think critically about soda, react with anti-government pro-market feelings, both, or maybe just shrug their shoulders and deal with it just like people do for smokes, booze, and drugs.