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bayano
14th February 2010, 19:14
Nazis are planning a White Pride World Wide march in Chicago next month (http://chicago.indymedia.org/newswire/display/88682/index.php), on the very day commemorating Apartheid South Africa's Sharpesville massacre. As you can see from my link, a number of Chicago radical groups are taking the planned march on March 21st very seriously, after some good actions they did against Nazis at an Eli Wiesel talk (don't worry, the Antifas spread pro-Palestine messages as well), and at attempted David Irving talks. It is an Illinois state neo-nazi group planning to pull this joke. If you're in the area, definitely take the excuse to visit Chicago and to support the antifa, queer, anarchist, marxist, Latino, and other communities that are pulling no punches to oppose their state nazis. Maybe even create a Blue Brothers block or something.

The exact location is not yet known. I'll post that when I hear about it.

Stand Your Ground
14th February 2010, 22:04
Sounds like there could be a good counter to this. I passed it along on myspace.

Antifa94
17th February 2010, 15:37
This looks great. I Wish I could go.

Rusty Shackleford
19th February 2010, 22:49
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/5/9/illinoisnazis128548631360288076.jpg


i would come if i could.

Red Commissar
20th February 2010, 21:51
I'm on the other side of the country, but I'm looking forward to news about how this'll turn out.

Crusade
1st March 2010, 09:38
I'm in chicago. No way in hell I'll miss this.

EDIT

I emailed the SSARA my information/phone number and offered my assistance. If anyone else in the area is doing anything message me. 9 days before my birthday :( Sigh.

Sinred
1st March 2010, 12:01
A march to commemorate Apartheid South Africa's Sharpesville massacre. Wow.
I must say i kinda love you´r nazis. They really make no effort whatsoever to modernize them self, appear like liberators or even try to gain any sympathies.

Ive alway wonder a thing thou about anti-nazis pickets in USA. How do you (leftists) deal with other racist right-wing groups who show up at picketings? Like New Black Panther Party or Jewish Defense League.

bayano
1st March 2010, 17:15
oh no, actually they do. sinred. they stood against elie wiesel in late 08 or early 09 with a big banner that simply read
"YES WE CAN
PREVENT WAR WITH IRAN
overthrow.org"

that's obama's campaign slogan + anti-war sentiment
a couple had nazi flag shirts, but they couldnt always be seen behind signs.

on the other hand, i have befriended many NBPP folks, and talked to them with respect about our tremendous political differences.

Sinred
1st March 2010, 18:11
Hmm i see. Oh, wait. I missread it, i thought it was a march to commemorate the slaughter in south africa :P
Anyway i still have questions:

What are the biggest nazi/white nationalist partys in USA?

How do you (leftists) deal with other racist right-wing groups who show up at anti-nazi picketings? Like New Black Panther Party or Jewish Defense League.

bayano
1st March 2010, 18:22
Different antifa groups (even ARA chapters) have different approaches. like i said, i dont disrespect the NBPP, I befriend and argue with them. I, for one, will make sure to shout a pro-palestine slogan if I see any JDL, but almost never do.

there are many white supremacist groups, but they are largely divided and disparate. a kkk group was recently defeated in court by the splc putting them into bankruptcy, and the world church of the creator was similarly put out of existence. though groups like the National Socialist Movement continue to exist, to a large extent the white supremacist groups are local or regional, without the strength or unity to be national.

Sinred
1st March 2010, 19:55
Different antifa groups (even ARA chapters) have different approaches. like i said, i dont disrespect the NBPP, I befriend and argue with them. I, for one, will make sure to shout a pro-palestine slogan if I see any JDL, but almost never do.

Oki. Right on. I would still have just as hard time to talking with a NPBB who consider me to be a part of an agressive, degenarate and evil race, based on my skinn. It would feel like befriending a nazi.
This, off course, is only what ive read about them on the internet.
May not be the case irl.




there are many white supremacist groups, but they are largely divided and disparate. a kkk group was recently defeated in court by the splc putting them into bankruptcy, and the world church of the creator was similarly put out of existence. though groups like the National Socialist Movement continue to exist, to a large extent the white supremacist groups are local or regional, without the strength or unity to be national.


Nice to hear. Some reports claims it goes better for the white nationalists now since obama came to power. Is it true or just horror propaganda?

Red Commissar
1st March 2010, 20:52
Nice to hear. Some reports claims it goes better for the white nationalists now since obama came to power. Is it true or just horror propaganda?

It's sensationalized but right-wing groups have definitely seen a rise in membership and activity sense Obama's election. It's not just people who have insecurities about African-Americans, but generally people who are paranoid about things they consider to be "big government", "socialist", etc as well as problems with immigration and perceptions about a loss of "culture".

So these groups have been infiltrating TEA Party local chapters and demonstrations to get members. White-nationalist groups styled as militias are also seeing an increase in membership.

However thankfully they're still fringe at this point, and there's typically more counter-protesters than they number at, particularly in urban centers. And at any points they're idiots, simply trying to get someone to hit them so that the police can intervene and a riot can ensue.

Wolf Larson
3rd March 2010, 02:45
http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&groupID=100001698&page=0&EntryID=75301991&CategoryID=0&get=1&adTopicId=0&lastpagesent=3&Mytoken=95DEB858-FDBF-43A8-BB492381510B511E978722719 So called Anarchists/Agorists/Mutualists defending racism . The posters Thor, Scatt, Jarrad, Nick, Dan, Adam are anarchists or are trying to claim anarchism while promoting/tolerating and facilitating both capitalism and racism. The posters Pillz, Black Zia Collective, Krud and one other person could use some help in shutting these cyber ass clowns down.http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&entryID=75282630&groupID=100001698

Redaction
7th March 2010, 03:37
Are there many miliant anti fascists in Chicago?

bayano
8th March 2010, 18:01
yes, and there will be hundreds at the counter rally, including antifas and others. always are.

dty06
19th March 2010, 00:14
any info on this? I'm hearing that the Nazis are actually afraid to show up because of the response so far, but i don't know how true that is considering they've never been afraid when they've got the cops to hide behind.

Crusade
20th March 2010, 09:22
any info on this? I'm hearing that the Nazis are actually afraid to show up because of the response so far, but i don't know how true that is considering they've never been afraid when they've got the cops to hide behind.

I contacted them a while back and they sent me an email earlier today.

Here's the email:


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Last Minute “White Pride” March Updates
Here are some last minute updates regarding Sunday’s ‘white pride’
march. The main organizers at the INSF have apparently pulled out
of this march due to prior antifa harassment which is a success in
itself. However we have received word that the march was handed
down to a local Chicago bonehead and that there were individual
nazis planning on coming out to march on North Michigan Avenue in
the early afternoon. So it’s still on and you can imagine how
pathetic this “World Wide March” may look like. Call the hotline at
773-980-6013 for more last minute updates and as for a meet up
point, here’s what some other folks have planned. From an E-mail:

The neo-Nazi groups are scrambling to choose a time and location;
insider sources have confirmed that they are well aware of the
Facebook group and community organizing meetings and the wide array
of groups mobilizing to come out and demonstrate against their
hate. This has pushed them to a state of alarm. They have responded
by not releasing the time and location, so to stall our plans for
our response or to prevent us from coming to protest their hate.
There may be a possibility that we have scared them to the point
where they
won’t show up.

So this is the Plan for March 21st. GO TO:
Pro-Diversity/Anti-Hate Rally
1:00 PM at Federal Plaza (Adams & Dearborn Streets)

Even though the INSF have pulled out from this march, they have
recently posted plans to have a “Hitler Birthday Celebration”
somewhere in Chicago on April 17th and we are making plans to
confront them there as well.

Worker Clam
21st March 2010, 22:30
About fifty of us gathered at Federal Plaza at 1PM today to counter any NAZI action. We got word that they were protesting in Millennium Park, about five blocks away, so we hied it over there to confront them. There were four of them! We chanted at them till they left.

We have crushed the fascist serpent!

Barry Lyndon
21st March 2010, 22:57
in front of Saint Xavier university. Thankfully, the Nazis were few in number, way fewer of them then anti-fascist protesters. A lot of the anarchist protesters were skinheads and sometimes it was difficult to tell them from the people they were demonstrating against.

I would have gone to this protest, but I heard about it too late. Seems like their were only four of em anyway, bunch of losers. Let's hope they remain a fringe and this economic crises doesn't benefit them.

Smash fascism!

Red Commissar
21st March 2010, 23:26
Good. I was hoping this wouldn't amount to anything. Though heckling the few nutjobs there were would have been very amusing.

dty06
22nd March 2010, 14:12
According ARA and infoshop, the Nazis that showed up were greeted by a bunch of angry antifas who beat them savagely and then ran off before the cops came. Then 2 of the nazis were arrested as the anti-hate rally came, and the other two were escorted away by the police (for their protection).

Overall a huge FAIL.

Stand Your Ground
23rd March 2010, 15:25
It was a beautiful Sunday Spring afternoon where the Illinois National Socialist Front were supposed to march for “White Pride World Wide”. But for the few Nazis that dared show their face in the city of Chicago, there was nothing but a barrage of blows raining on their parade.

HOW IT WENT DOWN
Southside ARA had been scouting in the downtown area early on, watching out for neo-Nazi skinheads and other white supremacists. Within minutes of their pathetic march of four boneheads waving white pride flags, clandestine anti-fascists took formation and confronted them, successfully delivering U-lock justice to the unsuspecting Nazi trash with trained precision. In broad daylight on Michigan Avenue, Nazis helplessly had flags ripped from their hands and were beaten down as pedestrians watched in awe. Later, a police car pulled up and arrested the bewildered and injured boneheads while the anti-fascists swiftly dissapeared into thin air. Showing up seconds later, the pro-diversity / anti-hate rally laid the final icing on the cake by surrounding the humiliated and obviously defeated boneheads and taunted them with chants, holding a rally directly in the path of their march.

With only a handful of white supremacists willing to publicly show their faces, it was evident that local neo-Nazis were not willing to get behind the NSF. In fact, the NSF didn’t even show up to their own march; intelligence gathering showed that they had dropped out of participation just before the march and had handed it over to other local neo-Nazis, unwilling to complete what they had started.

THE CAMPAIGN AGAINST THE NSF
Several months ago Chicagoland anti-fascists launched a campaign against the NSF utilizing a diversity of tactics including face to face confrontations, flyering the neighborhoods and schools of individual members, posting their home addresses and phone numbers, initiating phone campaigns focusing on key Nazi organizers, and multiple cases of successful infiltration of their ranks.

These tactics have achieved successes in that the NSF has become ineffective: six months ago they were openly organizing barbeques, protesting “black on white hate crimes”, and the opening of a Holocaust Museum in Skokie, etc. Their most recent attempt to march in Chicago was a complete failure, their recruitment gatherings have dwindled, their website went down for a month at a crucial time for promoting the White Pride March, and they have not responded to phone calls or emails from people asking about public information concerning their events.

WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?
While it is easy for us to see a neo-Nazi march as an intrusion of racism into our community, we must also address the way that racism affects our city on a daily basis. Two weeks ago, a homeowner in Mt. Greenwood posted a sign in his front yard stating “No to the Ghetto … White Power”, and if you read recent newspaper headlines you can see the aftermath of Jon Burge and the inherent racism of the Chicago Police Department. Confronting neo-Nazis and other white nationalists is only the beginning of eliminating racism, and we intend to align with other organizations to further combat forms of racism that exist in extremist groups as well as in sectors of society that are less blatant yet no less important.

CONCLUSION
We effectively came together as a city to successfully kick the Nazis out of town. Fierce resistance was delivered and everyone got away without arrest or injury. To the deafeated Nazi scum reading this, give it up! ARA is everywhere.

South Side Chicago Anti-Racist Action
http://southsideara.wordpress.com/ (http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vc291dGhzaWRlYXJhLndvcmRwcmVzcy5jb20v)
[email protected]

Black Sheep
23rd March 2010, 18:03
Is there any video of that day?


About fifty of us gathered at Federal Plaza at 1PM today to counter any NAZI action. We got word that they were protesting in Millennium Park, about five blocks away, so we hied it over there to confront them. There were four of them! We chanted at them till they left.

We have crushed the fascist serpent!
Ok cowboy, calm down.

Renno
24th March 2010, 13:18
keep up the good work!

Worker Clam
25th March 2010, 21:01
According ARA and infoshop, the Nazis that showed up were greeted by a bunch of angry antifas who beat them savagely and then ran off before the cops came. Then 2 of the nazis were arrested as the anti-hate rally came, and the other two were escorted away by the police (for their protection).

Overall a huge FAIL.

Okay — I was at the pro-diversity / anti-hate rally that came over from Federal Plaza. When we got there, the four Nazis were lined up on the grass, about a dozen cops were scattered about, and the Nazi banners were rolled up neatly on the sidewalk. There was NO SIGN OF THE NAZIS HAVING BEEN BEATEN IN ANY WAY! There was no evidence that "clandestine anti-fascists" had been there first, nor any indication that "Nazis helplessly had flags ripped from their hands and were beaten down as pedestrians watched in awe."

Got pix?

Pia Fidelis
27th March 2010, 17:36
Okay — I was at the pro-diversity / anti-hate rally that came over from Federal Plaza. When we got there, the four Nazis were lined up on the grass, about a dozen cops were scattered about, and the Nazi banners were rolled up neatly on the sidewalk. There was NO SIGN OF THE NAZIS HAVING BEEN BEATEN IN ANY WAY! There was no evidence that "clandestine anti-fascists" had been there first, nor any indication that "Nazis helplessly had flags ripped from their hands and were beaten down as pedestrians watched in awe."

Got pix?

Misinformation and exaggeration do nothing but damage to the worker's movement.

I think we should be rejoicing that for what could be considered the most important march for international national socialism, there were less than a dozen representing such views. This is a clear message that few people who harbour these sorts of outlooks are willing to actually play any sort of active role.