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Revolutionary Pseudonym
14th February 2010, 17:55
The BNP's new rules to allow 'minorites' into their party has now perhaps removed one of the last barriers to make them appear acceptable to the British voter and although they are still a fringe party I fear that the veil they are pulling over themselves to make themselves appear more acceptable will possibly lead to their increase.
Ofcourse this new rule of theirs does not reflect the core partys belief and is only to stop them from becoming an ileagle organisation.
So just how can we now present an argument to prove their Nazism to those who beileve their now 'acceptable face', ofcourse there are voters of theirs who are unaware of their Nazi ideals so how can we combat this belief and what evidence can we use against them still.
Cheers
(A)narcho-Matt
14th February 2010, 19:09
Prehaps by explaining to people that their policies are obviously of Nationl Socialist origin.
Historian of fascism Roger Griffin Describes their ideology as:
"The Party's 'esoteric' ideology eminating from the top is a virulent neo-Nazism adapted to the british situation."
The BNP do follow a national socialist ideal even if they now allow non whites into the party. What we need to do is explain how fascism stands for class colaboration, and that to the fash the working class holds the same interests as the national bosses. This isnt true, the interestes of the working class are fundamentaly opposed to those of the bosses.
ComradeG1967
15th February 2010, 19:58
I think the EHRC have been unwise in forcing this. They are now going to have a Sikh amongst their ranks, and if others of his ilk join, they may even field minority candidates. It will be much harder to portray them as racist if they are fielding non-white candidates!
Saying that their imbecilic and violent expulsion of a Times journalist goes to show how they are unable to conceal their knuckle-dragging thuggery. I think we have enough ammunition to enlighten the public and keep these marginal fascist scumbags on the periphery of real politics for years to come.
Pirate turtle the 11th
15th February 2010, 20:00
The fact it got to the point where they had to be threatened with closure before the rules were changed shows what needs to be shown.
Dr Mindbender
15th February 2010, 22:10
i think rather than a threat, this development should be seen as a positive and the BNP are not necessarilly going to benefit. Remember this is something that was forced upon them rather than an internal descision. It will mean that core members who joined because of the no whites policy will become alienated and leave. Probably to form their own parties or join joke parties on the fringe like the BPP. At the same time, its ridiculous to think that minority group members will be running to join the BNP. This will lead to further fragmentation of the far right and should be celebrated.
No longer is there a significant party holding a racist membership policy. Its a bleak day if youre a white british racist.
ComradeG1967
15th February 2010, 23:33
i think rather than a threat, this development should be seen as a positive and the BNP are not necessarilly going to benefit. Remember this is something that was forced upon them rather than an internal descision. It will mean that core members who joined because of the no whites policy will become alienated and leave. Probably to form their own parties or join joke parties on the fringe like the BPP. At the same time, its ridiculous to think that minority group members will be running to join the BNP. This will lead to further fragmentation of the far right and should be celebrated.
No longer is there a significant party holding a racist membership policy. Its a bleak day if youre a white british racist.
I can see where you're coming from. I thought the same, but the BNP are crowing about 300+ in favour of the new constitution, with only five opposing it.
You're probably right about ethnic minorities joining - turkeys voting for Christmas and all that - but a token number would certainly soften the party's image. But as for 'core members leaving', these will be the most radical and nazi ones, so again it will soften the party's image.
The NF look to be the group most likely to capitalise on all this, but I think they lack the organization and the finances to ever split the fascist vote.
Time will tell, I suppose. But I think the EHRC have probably shot themselves - and us all - in the foot.
Dr Mindbender
16th February 2010, 23:53
I can see where you're coming from. I thought the same, but the BNP are crowing about 300+ in favour of the new constitution, with only five opposing it.
To be fair though, it was a case of ratify the new motion or have your party banned and unable to stand canditates. Thats probably the only reason for the landslide.
Besides which i doubt the upper educated enchelons of the BNP able to articulate their poison 'without sounding racist' are more than a handful. I dare say in the coming months their grass roots knuckle dragging meatheads will flee like the rats they are running from the sinking ship.
ComradeG1967
22nd February 2010, 18:48
To be fair though, it was a case of ratify the new motion or have your party banned and unable to stand canditates. Thats probably the only reason for the landslide.
Besides which i doubt the upper educated enchelons of the BNP able to articulate their poison 'without sounding racist' are more than a handful. I dare say in the coming months their grass roots knuckle dragging meatheads will flee like the rats they are running from the sinking ship.
It seems they are fleeing to the NF!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/politics_show/regions/yorkshire_and_lincolnshire/8522260.stm
Dr Mindbender
22nd February 2010, 22:04
It seems they are fleeing to the NF!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/politics_show/regions/yorkshire_and_lincolnshire/8522260.stm
ha ha! Fleeing from a sinking ship to a running joke then.
Red Commissar
23rd February 2010, 23:01
The first non-white candidate they got was some nutty Sikh who hates Muslims with a passion.
CallMeSteve
4th March 2010, 01:33
If only there were a campaign for ethnic minorities to sign up in force to the BNP, outnumber the existing members and then vote to disband! :laugh:
Crusade
4th March 2010, 05:07
If only there were a campaign for ethnic minorities to sign up in force to the BNP, outnumber the existing members and then vote to disband! :laugh:
That'd be perfect. Do it. :thumbup1:
Dr Mindbender
4th March 2010, 18:05
If only there were a campaign for ethnic minorities to sign up in force to the BNP, outnumber the existing members and then vote to disband! :laugh:
no, because then we would just be left with a fascist party with a multi-race membership.
Remember, racism is not the only tenent of fascism. I'd much rather have a campaign for ethnic minorities to join a revolutionary leftist group.
:rolleyes:
Dimentio
4th March 2010, 19:10
i think rather than a threat, this development should be seen as a positive and the BNP are not necessarilly going to benefit. Remember this is something that was forced upon them rather than an internal descision. It will mean that core members who joined because of the no whites policy will become alienated and leave. Probably to form their own parties or join joke parties on the fringe like the BPP. At the same time, its ridiculous to think that minority group members will be running to join the BNP. This will lead to further fragmentation of the far right and should be celebrated.
No longer is there a significant party holding a racist membership policy. Its a bleak day if youre a white british racist.
That didn't happen in Sweden when SD moved away from racism in the early 2000's. The formation of splinter groups served to increase public interest in the party, and they would most likely enter parliament in september this year. But of course, the SD did so voluntary in order to gain tactical momentum.
Bitter Ashes
4th March 2010, 21:24
It's important to understand the BNP's strategy. They are and always will be a hate party of white supremecists and homophobes.
The BNP will not win an election by calling for death camps. In fact, even if they ever did win an election, it's unlikely they'd run death camps openly. They wouldnt even enforce deportations from the get go. Don't forget that there's several public statements made by senior BNP members of Holocaust Denial. They don't deny the Holocaust for political points, they deny because even to these sick bastards, the thought of death camps is too much for them.
What they would do though is whip up hatred to such a point that they wouldnt need to do any of this to achieve thier goals. They'd turn a blind eye to lynch mobs and let thier indoctronated public do the dirty work for them. Minority groups would become so under threat that they would leave under duress, not through legislation. It'll be lynch mobs, not death camps with the BNP.
Socialist Guy
4th March 2010, 21:30
If anyone tells you the BNP are no longer racist because they now let 'minorities' in, then point them to the BNP's past and the fact that they had to be forced by the EHRC to open their membership to people who in the past would have been bluntly told by the BNP to away (put politely for the sake of this forum).
Although still, thanks to the EHRC for trying to make the BNP look more appealing now to other minorities who in the past would have been excluded from the BNP.
/sarcasm
Redaction
6th March 2010, 02:57
The BNP will always be a violent group of hatefull neo nazi's who are obsessed by the boring hatefull past and there idols like osward mosley.
Nick griffin is a fat pig as well.
Steve_j
12th March 2010, 18:15
Little update
The British National Party was banned on Friday from admitting new members until it complies with race equality laws, after a judge ruled its constitution was likely to discriminate against non-white people.
He issued an injunction ordering the BNP to comply with race equality laws.
"The membership list will have to be closed until then," he told the hearing at Central London County Court.
Under the injunction, prospective BNP members will not in future have to be vetted at home before they are accepted.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE62B2TV20100312
Timebomb
20th March 2010, 21:06
The BNP will always be a violent group of hatefull neo nazi's who are obsessed by the boring hatefull past and there idols like osward mosley.
Nick griffin is a fat pig as well.
Violent Nutzis don't scare.
I fear a BNP where there 0.5% non-white members but a non-white face on every leaflet saying we told you we weren't racist the more distance between the BNP and swastica wearing bootboys the more dangerous they are.
<Insert Username Here>
28th March 2010, 17:54
no, because then we would just be left with a fascist party with a multi-race membership.
Remember, racism is not the only tenent of fascism. I'd much rather have a campaign for ethnic minorities to join a revolutionary leftist group.
:rolleyes:
Congratulations on completely and utterly missing the point.
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