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Cooler Reds Will Prevail
10th February 2010, 08:14
So this is something that has been troubling me for some time. Let me preface by saying that I can be somewhat of a 'pick-up artist' when I want to be, but I find it somewhat boring, so meeting and talking to women is not my problem at all. My problem is this:

1) Being single sucks.
2) I get really bored dating girls that are not political / intellectual, which unfortunately I am doing right now (seriously, I'm sorta dating a Nepali girl with monarchist sympathies... and I'm a Maoist!!!! :cursing:)
3) I have an overwhelming fear of being deemed a 'mack-tivist' simply for expressing romantic interest in a fellow revolutionary (for those of you that don't know what it means, it is somebody that gets involved in radical politics just to pick up on girls).

Does anybody have any success stories I can learn from about meeting their partner in the struggle?

Kléber
10th February 2010, 08:31
"Put politics in command." Hate to be an "economist" but, just get more politically involved in your community, and you will spontaneously meet the sort of people you want to. If you live in the Bay then that shouldn't be hard. One warm afternoon as the sun sets on some exhausted activists after a long day of political work, two hands will accidentally meet while picking up the same stack of fliers and all that.

whore
10th February 2010, 11:31
me so horny. me love you long time.

Guerrilla22
10th February 2010, 11:42
me so horny. me love you long time.

:laugh:

Sam_b
10th February 2010, 12:16
Oh cool! Another thread whining about being single!

!!!!

Sasha
10th February 2010, 12:22
enter marsella into this thread in 3,2,1...

edit: nevermind, she is already here....:lol:

Tower of Bebel
10th February 2010, 12:24
Uhmm... there is no success story. Just be patient. And what do you mean by "being revolutionary"? Some militants are so active that they don't mind dating someone who's not that much interested in politics. It's a welcome relief you know. Dating someone from the same militant organization can be frustrating too.

Raúl Duke
10th February 2010, 13:43
I get really bored dating girls that are not political / intellectual, which unfortunately I am doing right now

I have a slightly reverse interest...
I'm more interested in smart/intellectual but usually apolitical women more so than leftist women (than again I only meet and am friends with one radical woman in real life; others were liberal activists. In fact, as a side note, when I was in the SFA activist conference in Immokalee most of the participants came from private universities, I felt a little alienated.)

NecroCommie
10th February 2010, 13:48
Oh cool! Another thread whining about being single!

!!!!
Except for the fact that he is not a single. :p

And yes dude, I feel ya! Many revolutionary dudes seem to have this problem, despite the fact that women outnumber us in the movement. :confused: WTF is going on?

Dr Mindbender
10th February 2010, 15:18
Except for the fact that he is not a single. :p

And yes dude, I feel ya! Many revolutionary dudes seem to have this problem, despite the fact that women outnumber us in the movement. :confused: WTF is going on?

not all of those women are heterosexual though.

In my experience the left is a haven of sorts for the LGB community because we're generally less prejudiced than the right.



me so horny. me love you long time.
Not that i'm calling for disciplinary measures or anything, but am i the only one here with a twang of concern that someone who is probably a privileged white in the developed world is trying to impersonate a south east asian prostitute?

The jokes wearing a bit thin now, knock it off. Besides i like full metal jacket and youre spoiling my enjoyment of that movie.

Wanted Man
10th February 2010, 18:38
Not that i'm calling for disciplinary measures or anything, but am i the only one here with a twang of concern that someone who is probably a privileged white in the developed world is trying to impersonate a south east asian prostitute?

The jokes wearing a bit thin now, knock it off. Besides i like full metal jacket and youre spoiling my enjoyment of that movie.

Why would you like a movie when its portrayal of a South East Asian prostitute is offensive to you?

Dr Mindbender
10th February 2010, 18:55
Why would you like a movie when its portrayal of a South East Asian prostitute is offensive to you?

the woman in the movie who portrayed the prostitute was south east asian.

I'm unsettled when privileged white westerners adopt the role.

Lyev
10th February 2010, 19:09
Let me preface by saying that I can be somewhat of a 'pick-up artist' when I want to be, but I find it somewhat boring, so meeting and talking to women is not my problem at all.
Meeting and talking to women is all of my problem; I'm just so bloody awkward at it

Dr Mindbender
10th February 2010, 19:12
Meeting and talking to women is all of my problem; I'm just so bloody awkward at it

in my experience, relationships and opportunities to form relationships occur when you dont exert yourself; you shouldn't force them.

Wanted Man
10th February 2010, 19:16
the woman in the movie who portrayed the prostitute was south east asian.

I'm unsettled when privileged white westerners adopt the role.

She's actually British, with French and Chinese parents. I don't see the difference. At some point, black actors were also given blackface make-up. Was it suddenly okay then?

This is all a bit selective. If you liked it in the film, then don't complain when someone makes a reference to that film with no bad intentions at all.

Lyev
10th February 2010, 19:17
in my experience, relationships and opportunities to form relationships occur when you dont exert yourself; you shouldn't force them.
Well it's not that really, it's just the whole "flirting" thing that gets me. I don't have a bloody clue how to do it; if you're interested in a girl then "flirting" is usually the accepted way to show this interest without coming across as a some sort of scary stalker. And discussing this over a revolutionary leftist forum makes my love-life seem so much more dire :lol:

Wanted Man
10th February 2010, 19:39
Well it's not that really, it's just the whole "flirting" thing that gets me. I don't have a bloody clue how to do it; if you're interested in a girl then "flirting" is usually the accepted way to show this interest without coming across as a some sort of scary stalker. And discussing this over a revolutionary leftist forum makes my love-life seem so much more dire :lol:

Well, what is troubling you about it in particular? I actually agree with Mindbender on this one. It's not something that you can just force out in a way that works. Sometimes there is just enough mutual attraction that it's actually fairly easy. On the other hand, generally speaking, you do need to take some initiative.

Dr Mindbender
10th February 2010, 21:16
She's actually British, with French and Chinese parents. I don't see the difference. At some point, black actors were also given blackface make-up. Was it suddenly okay then?

This is all a bit selective. If you liked it in the film, then don't complain when someone makes a reference to that film with no bad intentions at all.


I honestly didnt know the true nationality of the woman in question but more to the point, i liked the film in spite of that scene, more because it was a harrowing and deeply critical attack of the treatment of american working class men at the hands of their superior ranks and of the vietnam war in general.

Wanted Man
10th February 2010, 21:58
I honestly didnt know the true nationality of the woman in question but more to the point, i liked the film in spite of that scene, more because it was a harrowing and deeply critical attack of the treatment of american working class men at the hands of their superior ranks and of the vietnam war in general.

Oh I agree with you; I loved the film, especially the first part. Just sayin' that it's a bit silly to criticise someone for referencing it here, then. No big deal. :)

Nwoye
10th February 2010, 23:13
Well it's not that really, it's just the whole "flirting" thing that gets me. I don't have a bloody clue how to do it; if you're interested in a girl then "flirting" is usually the accepted way to show this interest without coming across as a some sort of scary stalker. And discussing this over a revolutionary leftist forum makes my love-life seem so much more dire :lol:
take the advice of Cal in 40 year old virgin: be David Caruso in "Jade."

Cooler Reds Will Prevail
11th February 2010, 00:03
LMAO @ nobody answering my question. Okay let me make this simpler: How do you avoid being mischaracterized as a "mack-tivist", while still pursuing romantic interests?

Axle
11th February 2010, 00:39
LMAO @ nobody answering my question. Okay let me make this simpler: How do you avoid being mischaracterized as a "mack-tivist", while still pursuing romantic interests?

Just be serious about your activism. That way if you happen to pick up girls while doing it, it'll still look incidental.

Il Medico
11th February 2010, 00:44
LMAO @ nobody answering my question. Okay let me make this simpler: How do you avoid being mischaracterized as a "mack-tivist", while still pursuing romantic interests?
Don't tell them that your interested in them because of their politics. Politics is a bad basis for relationships. Date people you have other things in common with.

punisa
11th February 2010, 00:45
I have an overwhelming fear of being deemed a 'mack-tivist' simply for expressing romantic interest in a fellow revolutionary (for those of you that don't know what it means, it is somebody that gets involved in radical politics just to pick up on girls).

Getting into politics to pick up girls would be silly (there are better places), but I can relate to a degree. Over time, as you get involved into politics - certain aspects of revolutionary politics start to be attractive. In all sorts of ways, romantic, sexual - yeah its weird :lol:
p.s. A year ago, I even wrote a song on this subject called a Bolshevik Girl.

Sogdian
11th February 2010, 01:17
Dating with a fellow revolutionary comrade might sound rather romantic in the beginning, but could be well boring and depressing in the end. I think it's important to mix up genes and ideas a bit for the health of long term relationships. Though I wouldn't mind having a like-minded partner and talk about stuff all night long :rolleyes:

Tyrlop
11th February 2010, 15:47
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhZUqbphN48
you all talk to much and love to litte:wub:

Incendiarism
11th February 2010, 16:05
Being single is the one greatest pleasure of life. Women, as a general rule, are not worth the trouble nor hassle of getting to know. By keeping things strictly casual you win.

EDIT: I understand my comments may seem misogynistic or boorish or what have you, but it's my opinion. I've seen too many lives destroyed because of girlfriends, and I intend to keep mine.

jake williams
11th February 2010, 17:39
LMAO @ nobody answering my question. Okay let me make this simpler: How do you avoid being mischaracterized as a "mack-tivist", while still pursuing romantic interests?
If you actually do useful work for genuine reasons and don't just spend your time hitting on people, I don't really think anyone would get this impression.

Muzk
11th February 2010, 17:50
You should try this political dating site (http://www.***************/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=97)

They can give you advice too :thumbup1:
Make sure you're white though.:rolleyes:

pierrotlefou
11th February 2010, 18:19
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhWxiVpeCL0&feature=related

Raúl Duke
11th February 2010, 18:21
QhZUqbphN48
you all talk to much and love to litte:wub:
:lol::thumbup1::lol:

The Ungovernable Farce
11th February 2010, 18:38
Being single is the one greatest pleasure of life. Women, as a general rule, are not worth the trouble nor hassle of getting to know. By keeping things strictly casual you win.

EDIT: I understand my comments may seem misogynistic or boorish or what have you, but it's my opinion. I've seen too many lives destroyed because of girlfriends, and I intend to keep mine.
What. The. Fuck. I mean, I know I should have low expectations of an online discussion of communists' love lives, but that's still a pretty insane thing to say. What about women and gay men? Are they allowed boyfriends, or is it just women that're worthless?

NecroCommie
11th February 2010, 20:35
What. The. Fuck. I mean, I know I should have low expectations of an online discussion of communists' love lives, but that's still a pretty insane thing to say. What about women and gay men? Are they allowed boyfriends, or is it just women that're worthless?
I guess he's trying to say that all manner of fixed relationships are a bad idea. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

And ironically, I'm not big on relationships either. But that's because I'm an introvert and comfortable with it... ... ... and I have a girlfriend. :rolleyes:

manic expression
11th February 2010, 22:06
LMAO @ nobody answering my question. Okay let me make this simpler: How do you avoid being mischaracterized as a "mack-tivist", while still pursuing romantic interests?
Why should you care what people characterize you as? Pursue what you want and never make apologies for it, life's way too short to tip-toe around your desires. Those labels are probably based on jealousy anyway, so don't sweat them. Plus, the sooner you get used to it the better, because getting flak for flirting can happen in almost every other social situation.

And to the guys here who have anxiety about approaching girls (this is to straights, only because that's my orientation and thus my experience): if you want to get good at a sport, you should practice it and improve by learning from what works and doesn't work, right? Well, if you want to get good at approaching girls, you should start doing it and improve by learning from your experiences. Sure, you'll fail at some approaches, but being willing to fail means being willing to succeed, and it'll definitely get more comfortable and rewarding if you keep on learning.

punisa
11th February 2010, 22:07
QhZUqbphN48
you all talk to much and love to litte:wub:

Yeah that's the one, thanks :lol:

Wanted Man
11th February 2010, 22:11
Why should you care what people characterize you as? Pursue what you want and never make apologies for it, life's way too short to tip-toe around your desires. Those labels are probably based on jealousy anyway, so don't sweat them. Plus, the sooner you get used to it the better, because getting flak for flirting can happen in almost every other social situation.

And to the guys here who have anxiety about approaching girls (this is to straights, only because that's my orientation and thus my experience): if you want to get good at a sport, you should practice it and improve by learning from what works and doesn't work, right? Well, if you want to get good at approaching girls, you should start doing it and improve by learning from your experiences. Sure, you'll fail at some approaches, but being willing to fail means being willing to succeed, and it'll definitely get more comfortable and rewarding if you keep on learning.

The Following User Says Thank You to manic expression For This Useful Post:
Wanted Man

Bilan
11th February 2010, 22:58
Ugh.

Kléber
11th February 2010, 23:06
LOL, stormfront classifieds. nfw. just, lol. thats too funny.

ls
11th February 2010, 23:19
What an odd thread. I guess you could meet a partner in political struggles and there's nothing really wrong with that.. and.. that's that really.

kalu
12th February 2010, 00:58
I have never encountered any "mack-tivists", at least not during my time organizing in college (where people are oh-so-horny to begin with). Most people in the political groups I was in seemed very genuine, so I don't think anyone would have a problem if a relationship spontaneously blossomed. I dunno, maybe it's different in the "real world." Personally, I'm not so hung up on meeting any particular type of person, "if it happens it happens." I'm also very inexperienced, maybe over time I will develop my tastes and attraction to different character types (I think from a purely theoretical perspective, I'm sort of like the OP, I would definitely prefer to meet someone intellectual / critical: conversations could get boring otherwise...). I don't think, however, that I could ever handle racists / homophobes / the dogmatically religious / fierce reactionaries, etc.

Os Cangaceiros
12th February 2010, 01:58
3) I have an overwhelming fear of being deemed a 'mack-tivist' simply for expressing romantic interest in a fellow revolutionary (for those of you that don't know what it means, it is somebody that gets involved in radical politics just to pick up on girls).


LOL! Such people actually exist? :lol:

jake williams
12th February 2010, 02:12
And to the guys here who have anxiety about approaching girls (this is to straights, only because that's my orientation and thus my experience): if you want to get good at a sport, you should practice it and improve by learning from what works and doesn't work, right? Well, if you want to get good at approaching girls, you should start doing it and improve by learning from your experiences. Sure, you'll fail at some approaches, but being willing to fail means being willing to succeed, and it'll definitely get more comfortable and rewarding if you keep on learning.
Women aren't a sport.

Os Cangaceiros
12th February 2010, 02:19
I don't think he said that they were...

RHIZOMES
12th February 2010, 03:55
Why should you care what people characterize you as? Pursue what you want and never make apologies for it, life's way too short to tip-toe around your desires. Those labels are probably based on jealousy anyway, so don't sweat them. Plus, the sooner you get used to it the better, because getting flak for flirting can happen in almost every other social situation.

And to the guys here who have anxiety about approaching girls (this is to straights, only because that's my orientation and thus my experience): if you want to get good at a sport, you should practice it and improve by learning from what works and doesn't work, right? Well, if you want to get good at approaching girls, you should start doing it and improve by learning from your experiences. Sure, you'll fail at some approaches, but being willing to fail means being willing to succeed, and it'll definitely get more comfortable and rewarding if you keep on learning.

Yes I agree. Problem is with me I have social anxiety so extreme I often feel it gets out of my control, I'm thinking of seeing a shrink about it.

khad
12th February 2010, 06:01
me so horny. me love you long time.
I would negrep you for racism. It's good to be white, ain't it?

Glenn Beck
12th February 2010, 06:08
Women aren't a sport.


A sport is commonly defined as an organized (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organized), competitively (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competitively) and skillful physical activity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_activity) requiring commitment and fair play (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sportsmanship). It is governed by a set of rules (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_sport) or customs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tradition). In a sport the key factors are the physical capabilities (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_capabilities) and skills of the competitor when determining the outcome (winning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory) or losing). The physical activity involves the movement of people, animals and/or a variety of objects such as balls and machines.

I'm thinking really hard about this problem

Incendiarism
12th February 2010, 06:17
What. The. Fuck. I mean, I know I should have low expectations of an online discussion of communists' love lives, but that's still a pretty insane thing to say. What about women and gay men? Are they allowed boyfriends, or is it just women that're worthless?

Well, what I meant is that I'm not fit for relationships. I know I'm good looking and confident, and I know that commitments such as marriage carry heavy burdens. One of those burdens is a loss of personal freedom, which is of course mutual.

I recently broke up with my girlfriend, and I've since decided that it would be wiser to stay a bachelor. By keeping things in this manner I am avoiding becoming embroiled in tempestuous affairs and all those emotions - ie; getting hurt.

Derrida
12th February 2010, 06:26
Being single is the one greatest pleasure of life. Women, as a general rule, are not worth the trouble nor hassle of getting to know. By keeping things strictly casual you win.


EDIT: I understand my comments may seem misogynistic or boorish or what have you, but it's my opinion. I've seen too many lives destroyed because of girlfriends, and I intend to keep mine. Pro-tip: you putting an edit comment in trying to cover your ass for your obvious sexism doesn't cover you for your obvious sexism. Whether you prefer casual relationships to serious ones is perfectly your choice. You extrapolating that to a comment about women in general is ridiculous. How would you feel if someone said, 'Mexicans, as a general rule, are not worth the trouble nor hassle of getting to know?'

Derrida
12th February 2010, 06:32
enter marsella into this thread in 3,2,1...




edit: nevermind, she is already here... I'm not a sexist, a racist, nor a 24 year old white male anarchist from Tasmania by the name of apathy maybe. Maybe you should ask "whore" about that tho.

RHIZOMES
12th February 2010, 07:06
I would negrep you for racism. It's good to be white, ain't it?

^

Wanted Man
12th February 2010, 08:03
LOL, stormfront classifieds. nfw. just, lol. thats too funny.

I'll get you something better: http://www.theatlasphere.com/


I'm thinking really hard about this problem

:lol:

Anyway, to get back to the question, I don't see the problem. The term "mack-tivist" gave me a good laugh. Perhaps the ones who would accuse you of that are the ones who are active for that reason themselves, but have been unsuccessful at it. Why would you listen to them? Tell them, as your signature says, to pull the stick out of their ass.

manic expression
12th February 2010, 08:28
Women aren't a sport.To address this really briefly, it's not women that are a sport, it's meeting and getting to know women, it's getting over the obstacles between you and who you're interested in. These are skills that no one is born with, they're learned one way or the other. Women see meeting and getting to know men in much the same terms, and why shouldn't they? It's just a matter of being honest about what you want and not being afraid to try to get it.

Yes I agree. Problem is with me I have social anxiety so extreme I often feel it gets out of my control, I'm thinking of seeing a shrink about it.Hm, that might be a good idea but I can't tell you what's best. Check your inbox, I'll send you something that helped me.

Robespierre2.0
12th February 2010, 15:47
Get a kitten.
I don't have anxiety or anything, but I'm busy, love costs money I don't have, and I never see any signs that women are attracted to me, so I gave up. My kitty is my sole source of joy and affection in this bitter world.

Incendiarism
12th February 2010, 16:09
Pro-tip: you putting an edit comment in trying to cover your ass for your obvious sexism doesn't cover you for your obvious sexism. Whether you prefer casual relationships to serious ones is perfectly your choice. You extrapolating that to a comment about women in general is ridiculous. How would you feel if someone said, 'Mexicans, as a general rule, are not worth the trouble nor hassle of getting to know?'

Pro-tip: I don't care what you think.

I may sound sexist, but I'm simply trying to avoid struggle. I hate emotionality, and by getting to know somebody so intimately you are creating unnecessary problems. By marrying them you are given a death sentence.

This could apply to males, but as a heterosexual I speak in regards to women.

Muzk
12th February 2010, 17:42
This could apply to males, but as a sexist I speak in regards to women.

Fix'd

Incendiarism
12th February 2010, 17:53
Whatever, I'm not here to impress with erudite assertions and petty bickering about theory.

jake williams
12th February 2010, 18:02
I'm thinking really hard about this problem
:lol:


To address this really briefly, it's not women that are a sport, it's meeting and getting to know women, it's getting over the obstacles between you and who you're interested in. These are skills that no one is born with, they're learned one way or the other. Women see meeting and getting to know men in much the same terms, and why shouldn't they? It's just a matter of being honest about what you want and not being afraid to try to get it.
To address this really briefly - because it's not about a competition. It's just basic social skills, there isn't some special methodology to "getting" women. If it happens that these things are so regarded, than that's a defect in our culture, of which there are many.

Dr Mindbender
12th February 2010, 18:15
I would negrep you for racism. It's good to be white, ain't it?

Its ok, wanted man reprimanded and corrected me on this same point. Apparently this doesnt constitute racism.

:rolleyes:

Os Cangaceiros
12th February 2010, 19:03
By marrying them you are given a death sentence.


So dramatic!

Raúl Duke
12th February 2010, 19:28
This thread seemed to be people arguing over nothing...
unless I gotten the wrong impression.

Dooga Aetrus Blackrazor
12th February 2010, 19:30
I don't understand this. I'm 21, and I've never even dated. And I worry about things. I've worried about my looks, my social skills, my sense of humor, my food habits, my choice not to drink, my medical problems, and a host of other things biasing people's opinions.

I've never worried about my religion or my political beliefs. You should know enough your beliefs to give a rational explanation of why you have them. If a rational explanation doesn't satisfy someone your dating, maybe you should date a sane person? I'd date people from different belief sets as long as they show they've at least put some thought into their viewpoints and are an open-minded person.

Though I would kind of make fun of Maoism. So maybe you have a point.

And dating is somewhat like a sport. Modern society has created social relations that are completely ridiculous. If you're someone who keeps to themselves, like me, you'll see how stupid our social norms are. If you don't pick upon the rules of interacting with the sexes, things are going to be harder for you. Even the most left-wing person, more often than not, will be indoctrinated with norms that they subconsciously play out.

If you are are to open with someone, they will think something is up, in many cases. If you don't have many friends, they'll assume something is wrong with you. The list goes on and on.

I've went on internet dating sites and social networking sites. I find they help build these kind of skills. Here is an example of a norm, though. Even if you want to meet new friends, not dates, you're chances are significantly decreased with the opposite sex if you're not conforming to dating norms. I caught myself at one point being uninterested in being friends with a cool person - because I didn't find them attractive. Why do friends need to be attractive? Because society teaches us to be shallow that we do it when we aren't even aware.

I hate the social world. I like people who I can go up to and say, "what do you think about abortion" and "if I kill you to save twenty people, will you be mad at me?" "No, you'll be dead." I'm a weird person, though, so any advice I have is to be taken at your own risk.

manic expression
12th February 2010, 21:55
To address this really briefly - because it's not about a competition. It's just basic social skills, there isn't some special methodology to "getting" women. If it happens that these things are so regarded, than that's a defect in our culture, of which there are many.
You've never witnessed anyone compete for attention in social situations? Or knew of two people who wanted the same person? Romance/game/love can be very competitive, that goes almost without saying. Also, do you think "getting" women is inherently a bad thing?

Os Cangaceiros
12th February 2010, 22:09
This thread seemed to be people arguing over nothing...
unless I gotten the wrong impression.

Yeah, this thread is pretty bad. It's one of those threads that makes you acutely aware of the fact that you're on the internet. :rolleyes:

My opinion on this whole matter is that it's ridiculous. Do people really give a lot of serious thought to how their potential partner feels about political issues before deciding whether to continue onwards toward a relationship? As long as they're not some kind of annoying reactionary windbag I don't really see a problem. If I took into account all of my friend's positions on political and social issues and judged them based on that, I'd probably have very few friends.

I also don't understand the aversion to pursuing someone just because other people will think you're a "mack-tivist". :rolleyes:

Life's too fucking short.

manic expression
12th February 2010, 22:16
Life's too fucking short.
This.

cb9's_unity
13th February 2010, 08:36
I would negrep you for racism. It's good to be white, ain't it?

What the fuck does being white have to do with anything? Are whites the only one who can make racist statements?

But statements like these make people feel guilty about being white, and feeling guilty about what color you were born as is ridiculous (and just as bad as feeling proud about what specific race you were born to). A lot of people that are the same color as me have done horrible things, but I don't take responsibility for what rich merchants, slave owners and bourgeoisie have done.

If someone says something racist, criticize the racist comment. Leave their race out of it please.

RHIZOMES
13th February 2010, 08:42
What the fuck does being white have to do with anything? Are whites the only one who can make racist statements?

But statements like these make people feel guilty about being white, and feeling guilty about what color you were born as is ridiculous (and just as bad as feeling proud about what specific race you were born to). A lot of people that are the same color as me have done horrible things, but I don't take responsibility for what rich merchants, slave owners and bourgeoisie have done.

If someone says something racist, criticize the racist comment. Leave their race out of it please.

:rolleyes: Reverse racism!!

in reality it's because white people don't experience systematic prejudice against their race, so that's why you'll more often than not see whiteys making racist jokes because they havent had to deal with racism head on in their day to day life.

But yeah, it isn't surprising someone who seriously believes the War on Terror propaganda bs about "Muslim extremists" that they would also believe in reverse racism but w/e

cb9's_unity
13th February 2010, 09:49
Reverse Racism doesn't exist. Any race can be effected by racism and any race can have racist members.

Of course white people are more likely to be racist, we aren't discriminated against as often. But he seemed to be actually using someones race against them in an argument.

Whore could be black, hispanic, indian, native american and the comment would have still been racist. If whore was a black kid who wasn't discriminated against because of his/her (i'm too lazy to go to their profile and check) race, would he have made the same comment?

But I guess I'm white so i'm physically and mentally incapable of understanding race issues. Is this what I should be taking out of his comments? Or is it just that white racism is worse than any other form of racism?

Tablo
15th February 2010, 06:24
My whole issue is that I'm very passionate and my political beliefs surface sooner or later and make my potential partner run away. I wanted to date this cute Korean girls once and when it surfaced that I was a Communist she thought I was some crazy Kim Jong Il worshiper. x(

Pirate turtle the 11th
15th February 2010, 19:58
Moral of story:

You create a situation where you don't talk to women you find attractive because your worried that you will risk creating a situation where you don't talk to women you find attractive.

Sort it out.

NecroCommie
16th February 2010, 11:45
Dating and relationships are severely overrated. It's nice and all, but most certainly not worth the hype in the mainstream culture.

Derrida
16th February 2010, 15:27
Forgive me for not taking seriously the advise of a nerdy misanthropic ML loser. :laugh:

Incendiarism
16th February 2010, 15:53
So dramatic!

I have a knack for making hyperbolic statements.

Luisrah
16th February 2010, 18:10
I don't understand this. I'm 21, and I've never even dated. And I worry about things. I've worried about my looks, my social skills, my sense of humor, my food habits, my choice not to drink, my medical problems, and a host of other things biasing people's opinions.

I've never worried about my religion or my political beliefs. You should know enough your beliefs to give a rational explanation of why you have them. If a rational explanation doesn't satisfy someone your dating, maybe you should date a sane person? I'd date people from different belief sets as long as they show they've at least put some thought into their viewpoints and are an open-minded person.

Though I would kind of make fun of Maoism. So maybe you have a point.

And dating is somewhat like a sport. Modern society has created social relations that are completely ridiculous. If you're someone who keeps to themselves, like me, you'll see how stupid our social norms are. If you don't pick upon the rules of interacting with the sexes, things are going to be harder for you. Even the most left-wing person, more often than not, will be indoctrinated with norms that they subconsciously play out.

If you are are to open with someone, they will think something is up, in many cases. If you don't have many friends, they'll assume something is wrong with you. The list goes on and on.

I've went on internet dating sites and social networking sites. I find they help build these kind of skills. Here is an example of a norm, though. Even if you want to meet new friends, not dates, you're chances are significantly decreased with the opposite sex if you're not conforming to dating norms. I caught myself at one point being uninterested in being friends with a cool person - because I didn't find them attractive. Why do friends need to be attractive? Because society teaches us to be shallow that we do it when we aren't even aware.

I hate the social world. I like people who I can go up to and say, "what do you think about abortion" and "if I kill you to save twenty people, will you be mad at me?" "No, you'll be dead." I'm a weird person, though, so any advice I have is to be taken at your own risk.

I get you.

I always wanted a girlfriend to who I could say stupid jokes all day (those that aren't even close to being funny) , for example.
Sadly, the island I live in is full of conservative religous apathetic people, that think they are mature and civilized. Bleh

Raúl Duke
17th February 2010, 18:11
Reverse Racism doesn't exist. Any race can be effected by racism and any race can have racist members.

Of course white people are more likely to be racist, we aren't discriminated against as often. But he seemed to be actually using someones race against them in an argument.

Whore could be black, hispanic, indian, native american and the comment would have still been racist. If whore was a black kid who wasn't discriminated against because of his/her (i'm too lazy to go to their profile and check) race, would he have made the same comment?

But I guess I'm white so i'm physically and mentally incapable of understanding race issues. Is this what I should be taking out of his comments? Or is it just that white racism is worse than any other form of racism?

This is usually a controversial view...but I cannot help but somewhat agree considering the experiences my father had when he was raised in Puerto Rico.

Crux
17th February 2010, 22:46
Pfff, I only date based on revolutionary credentials.

The Ungovernable Farce
18th February 2010, 15:51
Moral of story:

Most communists are fucked in the head, most people on the internet are fucked in the head, don't ask internet communists for relationship advice.
Fixed.

NecroCommie
19th February 2010, 07:57
Forgive me for not taking seriously the advise of a nerdy misanthropic ML loser. :laugh:
I'm not a misanthrope. I'm an introvert. Theres a difference.

whore
19th February 2010, 08:54
I'm not a misanthrope. I'm an introvert. Theres a difference.
pfft, whatever.

your still a stalinist.

;)

RHIZOMES
19th February 2010, 22:20
pfft, whatever.

your still a stalinist.

;)

I'd rather be a Stalinist than post racist asian caricatures in thread after thread.

Bright Banana Beard
19th February 2010, 22:27
Woah, 4 pages!?

whore
19th February 2010, 23:37
I'd rather be a Stalinist than post racist asian caricatures in thread after thread.
fuck off.

i posted a comment in what, three or four threads? weeks and weeks ago. i got a verbal warning not to, and i haven't since.

and, i don't even think it is racist in the context. if you are interested in explaining to me why context doesn't matter, feel free. (funny enough, i just posted in the members forum that no one had explained to me why context doesn't matter.)

Bilan
20th February 2010, 11:55
Let it go, honestly (not you specifically, whore).

The issue isn't going to be addressed, we all know that deep down. Let it die.

ÑóẊîöʼn
20th February 2010, 18:13
I've been known to enliven my immoral, brankrupt and bleakly godless existence with casual encounters.

It's awesome!

Nwoye
20th February 2010, 20:03
I'd rather be a Stalinist than post racist asian caricatures in thread after thread.
I don't get how it's racist. Racially insensitive maybe, immature and stupid certainly, but calling him a racist is pretty dumb. Leftists have a tendency to scream RACISM every time someone says something about race that they disagree with. But racism is the belief that one race is inherently better or more deserving of sympathy/respect/rights/benefits than others, and I don't see that in his post. It's a problem I think because it dulls the word when you use it in these kinds of situations, and makes it less of an effective description of actually racist things.

Segregation in the United States was racist, Stormfront is racist, Israel is racist, but saying "me love you long time" is not racist.

*waits for shitstorm*

whore
21st February 2010, 11:15
I don't get how it's racist. Racially insensitive maybe, immature and stupid certainly, but calling him a racist is pretty dumb.
thanks for the support. but, just a heads up. saying "him" in reference to a person on the internet when there is no evidence any which way... not a great move.

insensitive maybe. stupid perhaps. sexist, probably not. ;)

but, it definently shows that you have been trained well to think of the "default human" as being male. :) :p

Le Libérer
21st February 2010, 14:19
Look you guys, stay on the subject, (lots of gratuitous sex with strangers all night long and parting ways before it goes to shit when they find out you really are a communist after getting to know you). That is the subject on this thread right?

And if not, it should be.

Nwoye
22nd February 2010, 01:13
thanks for the support. but, just a heads up. saying "him" in reference to a person on the internet when there is no evidence any which way... not a great move.

insensitive maybe. stupid perhaps. sexist, probably not. ;)

but, it definently shows that you have been trained well to think of the "default human" as being male. :) :p
valid point.

khad
22nd February 2010, 01:19
Segregation in the United States was racist, Stormfront is racist, Israel is racist, but saying "me love you long time" is not racist.

*waits for shitstorm*
An insect like you doesn't warrant that kind of attention. Next time you go to Harlem, start cracking fried chicken jokes to passerbys. You'll get the empirical evidence you crave.

whore
22nd February 2010, 10:39
Look you guys, stay on the subject, (lots of gratuitous sex with strangers all night long and parting ways before it goes to shit when they find out you really are a communist after getting to know you). That is the subject on this thread right?

And if not, it should be.
i'm glad i make you laugh. i like making people laugh. :)

Comrade B
22nd February 2010, 17:28
Dumb chicks are always nice

Dimentio
22nd February 2010, 19:33
Dumb chicks are always nice

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/facepalm.jpg

Comrade B
22nd February 2010, 22:22
that was a joke

Dr Mindbender
22nd February 2010, 22:25
that was a joke

http://www.scale4x4rc.org/forums/images/smilies/tumbleweed.gif

Oh dear...

Taxi for Comrade B!

Nwoye
22nd February 2010, 23:14
why are you so angry all the time

black magick hustla
22nd February 2010, 23:35
why are you so angry all the time

Tbh I think he is right. You haven't been mocked by people for having a way of saying things or for being associated with certain cultures man. Its pretty shitty. I say this as a mexican immigrant.

black magick hustla
23rd February 2010, 00:53
and as an internationalist who thinks identity politics are worthless

RHIZOMES
23rd February 2010, 01:17
Next time you go to Harlem, start cracking fried chicken jokes to passerbys. You'll get the empirical evidence you crave.

All that needs to be said.

gorillafuck
23rd February 2010, 02:03
I don't get how it's racist. Racially insensitive maybe, immature and stupid certainly, but calling him a racist is pretty dumb.
He didn't call her a racist. He said she said something racist (which she did). But I don't really see why we need to get nit-picky over whether it was "racist" or "racially insensitive".

This threads being pretty derailed.

whore
23rd February 2010, 07:03
He didn't call her a racist. He said she said something racist (which she did). But I don't really see why we need to get nit-picky over whether it was "racist" or "racially insensitive".

This threads being pretty derailed.
you talking about me when you say "she"?

"just a heads up. saying "she" in reference to a person on the internet when there is no evidence any which way... not a great move."

still, possibly better than assuming a person is male.

gorillafuck
23rd February 2010, 16:56
you talking about me when you say "she"?

"just a heads up. saying "she" in reference to a person on the internet when there is no evidence any which way... not a great move."

still, possibly better than assuming a person is male.
I'm sorry, I thought that I remembered looking at your profile and seeing the gender filled out as female.

whore
23rd February 2010, 23:45
I'm sorry, I thought that I remembered looking at your profile and seeing the gender filled out as female.
obviously you misremembered. :D

black magick hustla
24th February 2010, 00:15
says the australian man