Opposing Ideologies forum=Soviet Russia

[Comrade Anarchist]

Why do they stick all of the opposing ideas in this forum(besides the name). What i mean is that in the rest of the site you have leninists, stalinists, hoxaists, maoists, marxists, and may other type of authoritative ideologies all of which basically agree with each other on everything except which oppressor is best. Then there are the rest of anarchists who all agree that stalin was an ass. So a forum is created to distribute ideas and have debates yet the only place where debates happen is in the OI forum between us restricted people and the rest of the fascists out in the rest of the site. So why dont they let us have the debate across the rest of the site. Left libertarianism last time i checked is a leftist idea so let all the agorists, and the rest of the anarchists no matter what they believe b/c i mean you allow totalitarian fascists to run every other forum so whats so bad with some capitalists. Why is it that an egoist is restricted for defending ayn rand against a bunch of ignorant droogs.(I think that is why). The idea that the individual should have to sacrifice himself for the rest of the world is oppressive to that individual, is all i said, really.

I know this has been asked in countless number of other threads, but there wasn't one of the first page and im too lazy to go looking for an existing thread so ill post this.

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I don’t know what to tell you. If I owned the site, jackasses like you would be banned straight out.

[revolution inaction]

Why do they stick all of the opposing ideas in this forum(besides the name). What i mean is that in the rest of the site you have leninists, stalinists, hoxaists, maoists, marxists, and may other type of authoritative ideologies all of which basically agree with each other on everything except which oppressor is best. Then there are the rest of anarchists who all agree that stalin was an ass. So a forum is created to distribute ideas and have debates yet the only place where debates happen is in the OI forum between us restricted people and the rest of the fascists out in the rest of the site. So why dont they let us have the debate across the rest of the site. Left libertarianism last time i checked is a leftist idea so let all the agorists, and the rest of the anarchists no matter what they believe b/c i mean you allow totalitarian fascists to run every other forum so whats so bad with some capitalists. Why is it that an egoist is restricted for defending ayn rand against a bunch of ignorant droogs.(I think that is why). The idea that the individual should have to sacrifice himself for the rest of the world is oppressive to that individual, is all i said, really.

I know this has been asked in countless number of other threads, but there wasn't one of the first page and im too lazy to go looking for an existing thread so ill post this.

your not an anarchist, fuck off

[RedAnarchist]

If there was no OI, almost every thread would turn into a communist/socialist/anarchist vs. capitalist debate, and many non-leftists would not come here anyway. Having a subforum which allows other political views to be expressed is actually good for the forum.

Also, if you wish to contest your restriction, you know where the unfair restrictions thread is.

[whore]

at least you aren't a capitalist.

i don't know why you are restricted. i would personally restrict many of the more extreme "stalinists" and similar. (anyone supporting dprk for example is probably ripe to be locked up the gulag.)

but anyway, the reason for oi is simple. to make sure that the rest of the site isn't flooded with pro-cappie bullshit (and other reactionary ideas). i don't know if it would happen, but i think that's the reason.

anyway, it's a web forum. it's a godo place to discuss ideas and stuff, and even in oi you have access to leftists from around the world. (it does seem that at least a few of the restrcited members are more left than non-restricted members. racky (or whoever they are), and i can't think of any other names just now, but i know them)

[ls]

Send us a postcard sometime from OI, we love to hear from you. By the way, Ayn Rand would probably hate you in real life.

[Rjevan]

Is it that hard to understand that a site called "Home of the Revolutionary Left" is actually for ... er, well... dunno, maybe revolutionary leftists? I jump to weird conclusions, I know, but maybe, just maybe somebody who refers to himself as "egoist", talks about being unfree when having to "answer to his brother, his commune, the greater good of society" giving a shit about others because its their own fault if they are a "bunch of lazy fucks" and therefore not rich and wealthy and states that he'll "work for my own benefit and if others benefit then so be it, but i will not kill myself for your empty oppressive collective future" is not very welcome here. Praising the joys of the free market like Adam Smith himself and defending Ayn Rand whose philosophy is an embodiment of all the revolutionary left is opposed to, might suggest that you are in the wrong forum here.

Consider yourself lucky that some people here have obviously grown meek, I fully subscribe to Apikoro's statement.

[Jimmie Higgins]

i don't know why you are restricted... at least you aren't a capitalist. Except that he is - an Ayn Rand drone at that who thinks that democracy weakens the minds of "great people" by allowing the "lazy" weak to have a voice. It offends me as a radical that he tries to appropriate one of our symbols, the anarchist symbol, as a cover for his elitist and infantile politics.

[RGacky3]

A leftist forum needs to have some standard of what constitutes a leftist otherwise its not a leftist forum, and trying to make stupid arguments about freedom of speach of whatever is rediculous, its an internet forum for gods sake.

Now you can disagree with some of the standards (I disagree with some of them), but you gotta have standards.

[Axle]

Why is it that an egoist is restricted for defending ayn rand against a bunch of ignorant droogs.(I think that is why). The idea that the individual should have to sacrifice himself for the rest of the world is oppressive to that individual, is all i said, really.


And you wonder why you're restricted? :lol:

You're lucky you got off with a restriction, champ.

[graffic]

I think the restrictions are made too quickly. Obviously you need to restrict people with opposing ideologies who pollute the main boards but I think a three strikes and out system would serve the forum better. Some people get restricted straight off for saying something that didn't chime with a debate. I don't see the point of it.

[gorillafuck]

Comrade Anarchist, I've asked you this before but you never answered.

What is egoist communism?

[Drace]

Comrade Anarchist, I've asked you this before but you never answered.

What is egoist communism?

Yeah, I am wondering too. Just what the hell do you propose since you are against all the "authoritative ideologies". From your criticism, you don't look like a leftist at all.

More like a lassiez-faire capitalist.

[gorillafuck]

Yeah, I am wondering too. Just what the hell do you propose since you are against all the "authoritative ideologies". From your criticism, you don't look like a leftist at all.

More like a lassiez-faire capitalist.
No he says he opposes both capitalism and collectivism as both are "oppressive to the individual".

[Dooga Aetrus Blackrazor]

If I remember correctly, plenty of people of just about every ideology would like to see other ideologies banned. I'd like Stalinists and Maoists gone, personally, as I think historical evidence reflecting how they ran their countries justifies removing them on the basis of inconsistency with the basic principles of communism. However, I just ignore them. I'll likely ignore any of them who quote me and criticize what I just said. That's one of the things you can always do; ignore people.

That being said, I'm sure a lot of people would like to see specific ideologies gone, including mine, or specific people gone, including me. That's why it ultimately comes down to what the administration wants to do. It's kind of like a Wall-mart situation (though the administration isn't evil as far as I know). You "can" start up a small business and try to end up competing, but it's unrealistic. You'll be crushed, for one. And secondly, it's temping to just shop at Wall-mart and deal with their constant mistreatment of their employees.

Any small things we dislike here aren't worth it, in our view, to compete with the forum. Ideally, such situations would be ran collectively "completely." However, I trust the administration more than I do the majority, here. That's because they're more inclined towards my perspectives. It's also clearly difficult to create communist experiments in capitalist contexts.