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Os Cangaceiros
2nd February 2010, 19:17
I kind of like watching movies that are strange and out of the mainstream. These are five that I've seen recently that are definitely memorable, if anyone on this board feels like being adventerous with their movie viewing, or any fans of underground/horror/art house films:

Taxidermia (2006, Hungary) - This is a movie about three generations of people, a grandfather, father and grandson in Hungary. All three of them are strange...one can shoot fire out of his penis, one is a grotesquely obese competition eater, and one is a taxidermist who manages to ply his skills on the human animal. The visuals in this film are something else, and is probably the biggest reason to see the film.

Ex Drummer (2007, Belgium) - Imagine taking a shitload of powerful hallucinogenic drugs and almost drowning in a sewer. The images that would run through your fevered brain would probably look like scenes out of Ex Drummer. Seriously, this is one of the darkest, most morbid films I've ever seen. It's about a band of people with various disabilities (one is a violent psychopath, one is a deaf cokehead, and one is gay man with a dead arm and a bald mother/insane father). Their gimmick is that they're all "handicapped". They get a relatively normal man to be their drummer (who is a famous writer). He wants to see what it's like living with a bunch of total losers, so he decides to join, and after a while starts manipulating and abusing them, and eventually proves to be their downfall.

That plot summary really doesn't do it justice, though. No plot summary ever could. It's kind of like a bizarre horror/faux documentary/black comedy...the humor in the film is about as dark as it can possibly be. The movie is kind of like Spinal Tap, if Spinal Tap was made by evil deranged drug addicts.

Singapore Sling (1990, Greece) - This is probably the most memorable of all of these films, but probably the film I'd be least likely to recommend to the average film watcher. It's a film shot in gorgeous black and white, and the entire film is mostly shot in one house. The story concerns a detective who is frantically searching for his lost love, who vanished without a trace. His search leads him to a house owned by a mother-daughter pair who, as chance would have, are completely fucking batshit insane. When they're not burying bodies in the backyard they're engaging in bizarre incestous roleplay. They capture the detective (who they nickname "Singapore Sling"), and put him through all manner of torture and degradation, many of which involve various bodily fluids.

For an "extreme film" this one is incredibly well acted and shot. It's a very well made film in general, and it's one that anyone who watches it will probably never forget. However, the film is really, really depraved, and features one of the most intense dinner scenes I've ever watched in a film. Words really can't describe.

Bad Biology (2008, United States) - This was directed by Frank Henenlotter, who is a semi-well known name for directing the cult classic Basket Case. He also did the lesser-known Frankenhooker. Bad Biology is about two people: one is a girl with an abnormal (and occassionally homicidal) sex drive that resulted from her being born with seven clits, turning her into a sociopathic female sexual predator. Her reproductive system is also enhanced, causing her to crank out mutated freak-babies within two hours of intercourse, which she usually just leaves to die in random places. The other person is a guy with penis that's feet long that he feeds steroids to...in his words, "a drug addicted dick with a mind of it's own." It's not a movie to watch if you're easily offended (although that applies to all of these, LOL)

This is probably the least well done of all these films. It's grade-A shit, really, featuring amateur acting, horrendous CGI (some of the worst I've seen in any film), and lazy direction. And no movie that features a zombie penis going on a rampage is going to be Citizen Kane, although I liked it in a cheesy B-movie way. A couple scenes in particular had me in stitches, one involving some kids in a diner and one involving a drug addict ranting about god-knows-what.

Svidd Neger (2003, Norway) - This was probably the biggest pleasant suprise for me. I really had no idea what this movie was about prior to watching it, but I think that it's quite well done.

This film was supposedly reported to the European Court of Human Rights because of the title alone, which translated from Norwegian means "Burnt Negro". Obviously someone who never saw the film thought that it was racist, which is absurd...the film actually mocks stereotypes and expectations people have based solely on race alone. As with Ex Drummer, the plot is kind of hard to describe and wouldn't really do the film justice, but it's essentially about life in very rural Norway. A handful of people live out their lives in a remote fjord in various ways...an old man drinks all day long and has terrifying hallucinations of his zombie wife who he was responsible for murdering years ago, a black kid who eats psilocybin mushrooms in the forest and believes that he's a Sami (indigenous Laplander), a Sami who dresses like a roadie for Guns N Roses and an American NATO commander who wants a son are some of the characters. If David Lynch and Jim Jarmusch decided to team up and direct a movie about Norwegian hillbillies, it would probably look something like this. Recommended.

mo7amEd
2nd February 2010, 23:14
im downloading ex drummer and svidd neger, if i like one of them, ill download the rest...

I dont know what kind of taste you have in movies, but what do you think of David Lynch movies? Like Mulholland Dr or Lost Highway?

Or what about korean movies... Ive seen only few (Old Boy, Memories of murder, a tale of two sisters).

If you have other recommendations (mainstream or not, doesnt matter), share your thoughts

Os Cangaceiros
3rd February 2010, 04:25
im downloading ex drummer and svidd neger, if i like one of them, ill download the rest...

I dont know what kind of taste you have in movies, but what do you think of David Lynch movies? Like Mulholland Dr or Lost Highway?

Or what about korean movies... Ive seen only few (Old Boy, Memories of murder, a tale of two sisters).

If you have other recommendations (mainstream or not, doesnt matter), share your thoughts

I've seen a lot of David Lynch's films. I really like a few of them, especially Blue Velvet and Mulholland Dr. Others like Lost Highway I didn't really care for too much.

I loved Oldboy. A very twisted and interesting movie, that.

As far as other recommendations go, I like Takashi Miike's work (Ichi the Killer especially, but also Audition, Gozu, Visitor Q etc.) Also there's a film called Calvaire from Belgium that I recently re-watched, which is another trippy movie.

I don't know if you like the horror genre or not, but I can give you a TON of horror recs. Tell me what you think of Ex Drummer and Svidd Neger when you get around to watching them...I'd be interested to know. Ex Drummer was a bit too grim for my tastes, but I thought that Svidd Neger was great fun. :)

RadioRaheem84
3rd February 2010, 05:17
Watch the movie Trouble Every Day by Claire Denis and come back to me.

Os Cangaceiros
3rd February 2010, 05:31
Sorry, it's against my code of ethics to watch anything with Vincent Gallo in it. :lol:

I like Beatrice Dalle, though...Inside was one of the best horror films that I've ever seen.

pierrotlefou
3rd February 2010, 05:32
Memories of murder


That movie is soooooo good.

mo7amEd
4th February 2010, 00:37
I've seen a lot of David Lynch's films. I really like a few of them, especially Blue Velvet and Mulholland Dr. Others like Lost Highway I didn't really care for too much.

I loved Oldboy. A very twisted and interesting movie, that.

As far as other recommendations go, I like Takashi Miike's work (Ichi the Killer especially, but also Audition, Gozu, Visitor Q etc.) Also there's a film called Calvaire from Belgium that I recently re-watched, which is another trippy movie.

I don't know if you like the horror genre or not, but I can give you a TON of horror recs. Tell me what you think of Ex Drummer and Svidd Neger when you get around to watching them...I'd be interested to know. Ex Drummer was a bit too grim for my tastes, but I thought that Svidd Neger was great fun. :)

I'll try to see Svidd Neger tonight, don't know if I can see all of it (I need to be awake for a seminar tomorrow).... yeah do recommend horror movies, I love them, but can hardly find a good one, most of them are perdictible and you end up laughing instead of being scared...

mo7amEd
4th February 2010, 00:41
Watch the movie Trouble Every Day by Claire Denis and come back to me.

I'm downloading it...



That movie is soooooo good.

Yeah, there are some incredible scenes... The movie never gets boring

Os Cangaceiros
5th February 2010, 04:00
I'll try to see Svidd Neger tonight, don't know if I can see all of it (I need to be awake for a seminar tomorrow).... yeah do recommend horror movies, I love them, but can hardly find a good one, most of them are perdictible and you end up laughing instead of being scared...

Here's some recommendations. Some of them mix genres and aren't horror exclusively, but all of them are at least "horror-ish". Ones with asterisks beside them are especially recommended:

France:

Inside *
Martyrs*
Frontiers
Malefique

Britain:

28 Days Later
Severance *
Mum & Dad *
Outpost (sorta)

Spain:

The Devil's Backbone*
The Orphanage
[REC]
Tesis

Scandanavia:

Let The Right One In*
Skjult
Død Snø
Kuutamosonaatti ("The Moonlight Sonata")

Italy:

Tenebrae*
Cannibal Holocaust*
Black Sabbath*
Twitch of the Death Nerve (A.K.A. Bay of Blood)

Australia and New Zealand:

Wolf Creek*
Wake In Fright
Dead Alive*
Bad Taste

The United States:

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974) * (My favorite film.)
Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer * (HIGHLY recommended if you want an unflinching, disturbing horror film.)
Near Dark
Ravenous
Re-Animator *

Hope that helps...I know it's extremely Eurocentric, but that's mostly because I hate "J-Horror" (with the exception of Takashi Miike's films like Ichi the Killer and Audition), and because sadly I haven't seen a great deal of horror from other continents.

Tatarin
5th February 2010, 04:29
Canadian made movie "Cube" is pretty cool. Yeah...

Invincible Summer
5th February 2010, 06:46
Re-Animator is so excellent.

Os Cangaceiros
5th February 2010, 07:24
Any movie that features a talking severed head going down on someone gets a thumbs up from me.

Across The Street
5th February 2010, 15:50
The lawnmower scene in Dead Alive is top-notch. As for the movies you recommended haven't seen any of them, but will try and find a few.

mo7amEd
9th February 2010, 15:49
I've seen Svidd Neger... it was a very weird movie, definitly something unusual.

Now I have tons of movies to download and see, but I have a lot at uni right now. If people have other movies that are not listed in this thread, do post them :)

Belisarius
9th February 2010, 18:26
i've seen exdrummer, it is indeed very strange (especially with the guy with the huge penis who rapes a homosexual)

Os Cangaceiros
30th September 2010, 07:39
I've decided to resurrect this thread.

Bad Boy Bubby (1993, Australia) - This is a really strange, crazy film, but it's also a film that I found to be suprisingly emotionally moving. It's basically about one many (the titular title character) who is imprisoned in his abusive mother's house for thirty years. His mother even goes so far as to claim that no one can leave the confines of the house without a gas mask, as the air outside is poisonous. He lives in squalor and misery, and his mental developement is stunted to the point where he can only mimic other people's words and actions. The film kicks off when he meets his father (who is also a dickhead), after which he murders both his parents with saran wrap and makes his escape into the world, full of innocence and naivity. The rest of the film is basically his adventures in the real world, including going on tour with a band, having sex with random women (I'll never look at the Salvation Army the same way again), going to jail, living on the streets and helping in a home for the severely mentally retarded, and groping random people. It's an amazing movie...SEE IT.

Eat The Schoolgirl (1997, Japan) - It's hard for me to really accurately describe what this movie is about. I mean, I've seen it, but that really doesn't help me describe the plot...I guess the best description of what it's about is that there's this guy. He lives in an apartment in Japan, and he's affiliated with a criminal gang in some way. He also moonlights as a serial killer who dresses up as a schoolgirl, and roams the streets of Tokyo looking for victims to stab and, er, do things to their wounds that I'd rather not mention. There's also an angel who lives in his apartment.

That's about the best description that I can give. Some of the softcore sex scenes in it get old fast, but in it's favor it's only one hour long, so it's a quick watch, and it's highly entertaining with all of the surreal craziness. If you can imagine a horror film that's made by someone who has grown up watching nothing but David Lynch and porn, you've got a good idea of what this movie is like.

Dogtooth (2009, Greece) - Another film involving parents with questionable skills. Two parents (one of whom is played by Michele Valley, of Singapore Sling fame) raise their children in a countryside estate, in complete isolation from the chaotic, potentially corrupting atmosphere that is modern Greece. They even go as far as to re-define words and give characteristics to things that they don't normally have...for example, a stray cat is now a vicious killer that must be destroyed. Naturally this system of lies and deception inevitably spirals out of control.

This is a good film to watch if you're a big buff in regards to direction and cinematography, as a lot of it is quite good. It's not that graphic in terms of violent content at all, but it is pretty graphic in terms of sexual content...like, graphic in the "actors in this film actually had sex"-kinda way. The anti-climactic ending was funny, too, and enraged a lot of the people I saw this with in the theater, which rang out with "WHAT THE FUCK?!"s when the credits rolled. LOL

Save The Green Planet! (2003, South Korea) - I remember someone once commenting on this board that South Korea had a shoddy artistic scene. Well, that person has clearly never seen Save The Green Planet!, which is a great film from director Joo Hwan Jang. Not only is it about someone kidnapping a CEO, but it's also about said CEO kidnapper being a fanatical, alien-hunting speedfreak zealot who's convinced that aforementioned CEO is a space alien from Andromeda. He's willing to go to any lengths in order to get the alien to confess his crimes against the Earth, all the while with South Korean detectives on his tail (one of whom is recognizable from another great South Korean film called Oldboy). STGP! veers wildly from comedy to drama to sci-fi to horror stylings, and culminates with a highly appropriate ending. Recommended.

Srpski Film (2010, Serbia) - Oh boy...THIS movie. "A Serbian Film" has gained a certain reputation on the internet and also at film festivals for being extremely grotesque and over-the-top with it's depictions of sadism and sexual perversion. Well, all that is pretty much true. Someone who reviewed it described it as a film with a "Satan-worshipping neo-nazi pedophile" level of evil, and that's pretty much true, too. But I thought that it was awesome, too, in a really fucked up way.

It's about an ex-porn star named Milos, who one day gets contacted by one of his former co-stars. Apparently a wealthy & mysterious investor named Vukmir is shooting an "art film" in Serbia, and is willing to pay the struggling Milo a huge amount of money for his participation in the project. Milos accepts, only to learn later that the "art film" is actual an enormous excercise in depravity involving snuff, pedophilia and necrophilia. The film spirals rapidly downward into chaos and unspeakable acts after that revelation, in a film that breaks more than one horror film taboo.

One thing that struck me about Srpski Film was the crisp production of the whole product...it looks like it was shot by professionals, and with a fairly big budget, which you wouldn't expect a film of this nature to have. The film is helmed by competent actors, as well. Also the soundtrack fit the film perfectly (a pulsing EBM soundtrack that was reminescent of Infected Mushroom). When this film got it's US premier in my city, the director said that the film was supposed to represent his frusterations and anger at the state of affairs in his native Serbia, a country that has had it's fair share of division and internal strife over the years...at one point a character in the film declares that Serbia is "one big shitty kindergarten". But that just seems like an excuse to me, an excuse to make an insane exploitation film. So if you want to see an interesting film from the Balkans, I'd recommend this one, but be warned: it's hardcore as fuck.

ContrarianLemming
30th September 2010, 08:10
I'm not comfortable with any of you people now.

RED DAVE
30th September 2010, 17:41
Doesn't anyone watch Shirley Temple movies anymore?

RED DAVE

Coyote
30th September 2010, 18:36
Eraserhead should be on this list.

praxis1966
30th September 2010, 18:40
Just to pitch my two cents in, I'd highly recommend just about any purported horror movie from S Korea. I don't know what it is about them, but as a group Korean horror directors are some whacked out mufuckas...

I'll second or third or whatever the rec about Oldboy. I'd also wonder, though, if the rest of you guys have seen the other two movies in that trilogy since most people I've talked to aren't even aware that it's part of one. The other two movies are, incidentally, Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance and Lady Vengeance. IMHO, Lady Vengeance is actually the best of the three. Apart from that, I really liked Thirst, proof positive why Chan-wook Park (director of the aforementioned trilogy) doing a vampire flick is just fundamentally a good idea, and 3-Iron (which wasn't a horror movie but strange in a romantic sort of way). There was another Korean one I really enjoyed about some mistreated housewife who gets revenge on people with her cooking, but I can't for the life of me recall what the name of it was.

Then of course there's the films of Danish director Lars von Trier, somebody I think any David Lynch fan would appreciate. The films I really enjoyed by him were Europa, The Element of Crime, Dancer in the Dark, and Antichrist (that's right, I said it, :lol:). Please do your best not to flame me on that last one, though... A film that controversial/bizarre damned sure deserves it's own thread.

Dimentio
30th September 2010, 20:03
El Topo

Os Cangaceiros
30th September 2010, 20:21
I think that all of Jodorowsky's movies qualify...

praxis1966
30th September 2010, 20:41
I think that all of Jodorowsky's movies qualify...

Oh for sure... There's a review of El Topo and The Holy Mountain by Ty Burr of the Boston Globe which I just love reading and rereading (it's incidentally the review that made me a fan of his; guy's funny and he knows his shit). It can be found here (http://www.boston.com/movies/display?display=movie&id=10101).

brigadista
30th September 2010, 21:13
Oh for sure... There's a review of El Topo and The Holy Mountain by Ty Burr of the Boston Globe which I just love reading and rereading (it's incidentally the review that made me a fan of his; guy's funny and he knows his shit). It can be found here (http://www.boston.com/movies/display?display=movie&id=10101).


my favorite is
Sante Sangre

brigadista
30th September 2010, 21:17
Just to pitch my two cents in, I'd highly recommend just about any purported horror movie from S Korea. I don't know what it is about them, but as a group Korean horror directors are some whacked out mufuckas...

I'll second or third or whatever the rec about Oldboy. I'd also wonder, though, if the rest of you guys have seen the other two movies in that trilogy since most people I've talked to aren't even aware that it's part of one. The other two movies are, incidentally, Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance and Lady Vengeance. IMHO, Lady Vengeance is actually the best of the three. Apart from that, I really liked Thirst, proof positive why Chan-wook Park (director of the aforementioned trilogy) doing a vampire flick is just fundamentally a good idea, and 3-Iron (which wasn't a horror movie but strange in a romantic sort of way). There was another Korean one I really enjoyed about some mistreated housewife who gets revenge on people with her cooking, but I can't for the life of me recall what the name of it was.

Then of course there's the films of Danish director Lars von Trier, somebody I think any David Lynch fan would appreciate. The films I really enjoyed by him were Europa, The Element of Crime, Dancer in the Dark, and Antichrist (that's right, I said it, :lol:). Please do your best not to flame me on that last one, though... A film that controversial/bizarre damned sure deserves it's own thread.


Mandelay Lars von Trier by way of Bertolt Brecht[!] is interesting - saw it this week but still thinking about it..not a film for liberals

praxis1966
30th September 2010, 21:22
Mandelay Lars von Trier by way of Bertolt Brecht[!] is interesting - saw it this week but still thinking about it..not a film for liberals

A) If you're still thinking about, knowing von Trier, that doesn't surprise me. It also makes me want to see it (which I haven't, yet).

B) How so? I know Brecht was a Marxist, but I'm not altogether familiar with his work. I'm wondering whether it was faithful in its adaptation...

brigadista
30th September 2010, 21:34
no its not BY bertolt brecht but using the brecht theatre theory of alienation - its like a film of a play but not - very stripped down you have to concentrate on the content that way -its complex-second film in the dogville trilogy -

praxis1966
30th September 2010, 21:41
no its not BY bertolt brecht but using the brecht theatre theory of alienation - its like a film of a play but not - very stripped down you have to concentrate on the content that way -its complex-second film in the dogville trilogy -

Ah, OK. Is it almost a throwback to the early days of silent film then, you know, when the general philosophy of filmmaking was that one was essentially just recording a theatre performance with a motionless camera? Or am I way off base here?

brigadista
30th September 2010, 21:48
this may help or then it may not!


Brecht's works have been translated into 42 languages and sold over 70 volumes. Drawing on the Greek tradition, he wanted his theater to represent a forum for debate hall rather than a place of illusions. From the Russian and Chinese theaters Brecht derived some of his basic concepts of staging and theatrical stylization. His concept of the Verfremdungseffekt, or V-Effekt (sometimes translated as 'alienation effect') centered on the idea of "making strange" and thereby making poetic. He aimed to take emotion out of the production, persuade the audience to distance from the make believe characters and urge actors to dissociate from their roles. Then the political truth would be more easy to comprehend. Once he said: "Nothing is more important than learning to think crudely. Crude thinking is the thinking of great men."



http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/brecht.htm

if you watch Manderlay i would be interested to know what you think because i dont know anyone else who has seen it. Lars von Trier has never been to America...

praxis1966
30th September 2010, 22:55
this may help or then it may not!


Brecht's works have been translated into 42 languages and sold over 70 volumes. Drawing on the Greek tradition, he wanted his theater to represent a forum for debate hall rather than a place of illusions. From the Russian and Chinese theaters Brecht derived some of his basic concepts of staging and theatrical stylization. His concept of the Verfremdungseffekt, or V-Effekt (sometimes translated as 'alienation effect') centered on the idea of "making strange" and thereby making poetic. He aimed to take emotion out of the production, persuade the audience to distance from the make believe characters and urge actors to dissociate from their roles. Then the political truth would be more easy to comprehend. Once he said: "Nothing is more important than learning to think crudely. Crude thinking is the thinking of great men."


http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/brecht.htm

if you watch Manderlay i would be interested to know what you think because i dont know anyone else who has seen it. Lars von Trier has never been to America...



All right already. I'll just watch the fucking thing.:laugh: Seriously, though, I've been meaning to get around to Dogville anyway. I've put it on a back burner, an action for which I blame Explosive Situation. He's got me digging through the annals of French horror movies lately... At any rate, Lars may not have, but his movies did. I'm a huge fan of his, but I don't know that I've ever met anyone IRL that knew who he was until I mentioned the fucker.

EDIT: You know what? I just looked Manderlay up on Netflix and realized I have seen bits of it. I remember catching it on IFC or something after it had already started. I was intrigued, which was why I changed the channel. That sounds funny, I know, but when I catch something like that after it starts that's generally what I do because I wanna watch it from the beginning without spoiling the ending for myself... Incidentally, that's when I realized Opie Taylor's kid was smokin' hot.

Os Cangaceiros
1st October 2010, 00:24
my favorite is
Sante Sangre

I have that on VHS. I like the tape version of it, because it's rated X, LOL. I wish things were still labeled X, rather than NC-17.

Oh, and regarding Antichrist: fuck that movie. I hated it. It was filmed well, for sure, but the genital mutilation felt really contrived, and just tacked on for no apparent reason other to generate controversy.

brigadista
1st October 2010, 01:24
I have that on VHS. I like the tape version of it, because it's rated X, LOL. I wish things were still labeled X, rather than NC-17.

Oh, and regarding Antichrist: fuck that movie. I hated it. It was filmed well, for sure, but the genital mutilation felt really contrived, and just tacked on for no apparent reason other to generate controversy.

im not really interested in seeing antichrist , doesn't appeal to me

praxis1966
1st October 2010, 02:27
Oh, and regarding Antichrist: fuck that movie. I hated it. It was filmed well, for sure, but the genital mutilation felt really contrived, and just tacked on for no apparent reason other to generate controversy.

[Warning: Spoilers follow]

Well, I'm not gonna tell you that you have to like it. It's not my place to try and dictate taste to anybody. But using a psychoanalytical approach, which seems appropriate given all the psycho-sexual imagery involved, it seems to me to be a case of gender identity crisis coupled with a psychotic break that She was suffering from. The circumcision scene, therefore, is a necessary act in her transition to becoming fully male. It's a right of passage of sorts. When He kills her, therefore, it's a redemptive act for womankind and anti-misogynous (again, viewing She's destruction of his genitals and emasculating him and making him woman, and then violating him like a man perpetrating a rape by drilling a hole in his leg). Hence, all the female souls walk up the hill and back into Eden... There's more to it than that, as I see it, but I really didn't wanna get into a protracted debate on the matter, lol.

Anyway, I suppose you could argue that von Trier could've accomplished all that in a gentler fashion, but then he wouldn't be Lars von Trier now would he?:lol:

EDIT: You'll be happy to know I've seen La Horde, which I thought was pretty damned dope, and Frontiere(s), which was even doper, in the last couple of days. In the case of the latter, I'd just say as long as you're going to be derivative, that's the way to fuckin' do it, not the way Rob Zombie did in House of 1000 Corpses. The one complaint I'd have is that the translation on La Horde's subtitles sucked, but I have the feeling that had more to do with the particular torrent I DLed than anything else, lol.

Os Cangaceiros
1st October 2010, 03:34
[Warning: Spoilers follow]

Well, I'm not gonna tell you that you have to like it. It's not my place to try and dictate taste to anybody. But using a psychoanalytical approach, which seems appropriate given all the psycho-sexual imagery involved, it seems to me to be a case of gender identity crisis coupled with a psychotic break that She was suffering from. The circumcision scene, therefore, is a necessary act in her transition to becoming fully male. It's a right of passage of sorts. When He kills her, therefore, it's a redemptive act for womankind and anti-misogynous (again, viewing She's destruction of his genitals and emasculating him and making him woman, and then violating him like a man perpetrating a rape by drilling a hole in his leg). Hence, all the female souls walk up the hill and back into Eden... There's more to it than that, as I see it, but I really didn't wanna get into a protracted debate on the matter, lol.

Anyway, I suppose you could argue that von Trier could've accomplished all that in a gentler fashion, but then he wouldn't be Lars von Trier now would he?:lol:

EDIT: You'll be happy to know I've seen La Horde, which I thought was pretty damned dope, and Frontiere(s), which was even doper, in the last couple of days. In the case of the latter, I'd just say as long as you're going to be derivative, that's the way to fuckin' do it, not the way Rob Zombie did in House of 1000 Corpses. The one complaint I'd have is that the translation on La Horde's subtitles sucked, but I have the feeling that had more to do with the particular torrent I DLed than anything else, lol.

The problem that I had with the mutilation was that it was super-graphic, which isn't a problem in and of itself, but it didn't really fit with the overall feel of the film.

I'm glad that you liked those films...I like them too, Frontiers especially. Tablesaw scene! :thumbup1:

You should watch Martyrs next. I hold a really high opinion of that film, although I've gotten into heated arguments with people, both in regards to the film's quality and it's message. (It's the only film that I can think of that both religious people and atheists could interpret as being in accordance with their beliefs.)

praxis1966
1st October 2010, 07:41
I'm glad that you liked those films...I like them too, Frontiers especially. Tablesaw scene! :thumbup1:

Yeah, you've got taste, kid. It's funny, when I watched that this afternoon, I was laying on the couch. But when they started tussling in the general vicinity of that saw, I sat up and started yelling at the screen, "Fuckin' A, is she? Do it! Do it! Fuckin' do it!" Reason number 37 I watch films like that by myself, lulz.


You should watch Martyrs next. I hold a really high opinion of that film, although I've gotten into heated arguments with people, both in regards to the film's quality and it's message. (It's the only film that I can think of that both religious people and atheists could interpret as being in accordance with their beliefs.)

Nah, I wouldn't know anything about liking divisive, controversial films...

mo7amEd
1st October 2010, 12:42
Just to pitch my two cents in, I'd highly recommend just about any purported horror movie from S Korea. I don't know what it is about them, but as a group Korean horror directors are some whacked out mufuckas...

I'll second or third or whatever the rec about Oldboy. I'd also wonder, though, if the rest of you guys have seen the other two movies in that trilogy since most people I've talked to aren't even aware that it's part of one. The other two movies are, incidentally, Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance and Lady Vengeance. IMHO, Lady Vengeance is actually the best of the three. Apart from that, I really liked Thirst, proof positive why Chan-wook Park (director of the aforementioned trilogy) doing a vampire flick is just fundamentally a good idea, and 3-Iron (which wasn't a horror movie but strange in a romantic sort of way). There was another Korean one I really enjoyed about some mistreated housewife who gets revenge on people with her cooking, but I can't for the life of me recall what the name of it was.


I've seen Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance and it was so so... I've downloaded Thirst, but haven't seen it yet. Not a lot of time for movies nowadays. The problem for me is that I don't like watching movies alone and most people have different taste than me (they'd rather see mainstream comedies and shit).

Anyhow, if you think that Lady Vengeance is the best then I have to see it.

praxis1966
1st October 2010, 17:16
I've seen Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance and it was so so... I've downloaded Thirst, but haven't seen it yet. Not a lot of time for movies nowadays. The problem for me is that I don't like watching movies alone and most people have different taste than me (they'd rather see mainstream comedies and shit).

Yeah, same here. I do know a couple of horror fans, but they're friends of The Woman, so it'd be a little weird I think if I asked them to the movies with me, lulz... I think you'll probably like Thirst if for no better reason than because it's a pretty obvious attack against organized religion, particularly the Catholic church. I agree about Mr. Vengeance, by the way. Pretty mediocre in my estimation as are just about all the middle thirds of trilogies.


Anyhow, if you think that Lady Vengeance is the best then I have to see it.

I'm sure you'll like it. Not that most of the people on IMDb know a damned thing about film, but the general consensus there is that Lady Vengeance is arguably the best of the three. The technical aspects (lighting, cinematography, mise en scène) are otherworldly. Plus, it's awesome to see a woman, Yeong-ae Lee, be a total badass for a change.

IronEastBloc
10th December 2010, 07:29
No one mentioned Waking Life(2001)? it's a really interesting movie that is animated and rotoscoped, but each segment of the film is animated differently, and all the topics are pertaining to puzzling philosophical questions and existentialism.

Very interesting, best with an open mind.