Osama Bin Laden shows Enviormental concerns

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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/30/world/middleeast/30binladen.html

How interesting.

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I laughed my ass off when i read the title of this thread. Bin Laden is always like "the US will be wiped off the face of the earth!" or, "American imperialist scum will be consumed in a holy inferno!" and condoning attacks against civilians, and then suddenly Osama is all like "Please stop hurting the Earth!" :lol:

Anyhoo, everything he states in the article against global warming is what me and probably every environmental activist here in the US have always thought and already have acknowledged a long time ago. The real work, short of a revolution, is in convincing our politicians to do anything about it at all. Which I know wont happen. Many environmental activists are middle class Liberal kiddies who dont understand that the root problem is tied to capitalism, with its mass, ultra-rapid consumption of resources and, of course, burning of fossil fuels that capitalist society just cannot function without.

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Many environmental activists are middle class Liberal kiddies who dont understand that the root problem is tied to capitalism, with its mass, ultra-rapid consumption of resources and, of course, burning of fossil fuels that capitalist society just cannot function without.

Fucking A-men!
I never understood how activists could never link environmental issues with the mass consumerism and waste due to capitalism.

Similarly I find it funny how libertarians fight for "equal opportunity" and similar things that the left is concerned with but never recognize capitalism as the problem.

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Fucking A-men!
I never understood how activists could never link environmental issues with the mass consumerism and waste due to capitalism.

Similarly I find it funny how libertarians fight for "equal opportunity" and similar things that the left is concerned with but never recognize capitalism as the problem.

Hah yep. Which is why leftists here, who are serious about politics, think of libertarians as people who know nothing at all about socio-political issues. Libertarians have the dissent and mistrust in the current government and the current order of things, but they dont recognize the root causes of all the bullshit.

The important thing is that the dissent is there. Living in america, i dont see any other way to dismantle the capitalist system than to take advantage of the mass dissent and massively educate people, in how capitalism cannot exist without war, unemployment, etc. We need to counter the just plain retarded propaganda that the right wingers spew out every day in all forms of our media. All easily, readily accessible media and information about the outside world is simply dominated by right wing fuckfaces. At best, we have libertarian-themed publications that pass as far-left (like the LA Weekly, which is what all we young people and the LA hipsters read). The hard part in mass-education for an alternative economic/political system is getting everyone to listen while countering 60 years of anti-communist/socialist propaganda. What Mr. Osama does, accomplishes nothing but killing innocent people, fueling the wars and chauvinism, and "justify" U.S. dominance, and hurts any chance for americans to get out of our silly little culture of fear

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Fucking A-men!
I never understood how activists could never link environmental issues with the mass consumerism and waste due to capitalism.

Similarly I find it funny how libertarians fight for "equal opportunity" and similar things that the left is concerned with but never recognize capitalism as the problem.


I agree too. I have been saying this for years.

I even go so far as to say that most industrialisation was in the name of capitalism too and always will be so in order to make to sell to profit. One of the effects of this industrialisation is the environmental mess we are now in.