Israeli and US commandos to assist Indian battle against Maoists

[I Can Has Communism]

Speaks for itself. The capitalists are on their last throes

India all set to launch anti-Naxalite operation (http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Politics/06-Jan-2010/India-all-set-to-launch-antiNaxalite-operation/1)


LAHORE – The Indian government is preparing to launch a full-fledged anti-Naxalite military operation in a bid to flush out separatists Maoist movement in three different areas, considered as tri-junctions of worst Naxalite-affected states.

The Indian government sources in New Delhi, quoting Indian Home Secretary claimed that India is all set to launch joint army, Air Force and paramilitary forces operations against Naxalites in March 2010. The Indian Cabinet Committee of Security (CCS) has also approved the government’s plan to counter Maoists in the six affected states. Initially, the operation would be carried out in four states namely Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand, Orissa and Maharashtra, where according to Indian Intelligence reports most of the Maoist infrastructure, training camps and strongholds are located.

On the basis of results of operations in these four states, joint Indian forces will be moved into remaining two states as well as, other affected areas. In all, joint operations will be carried out in phases in 20 Naxals affected states.
Troops from Indian Army, Indian Air Force and personnel of CoBRA (Commando Battalion for Resolute Action), a central force, with the state police in frontal role, have already been earmarked for the operations. Although, Indian Union Home Minister P Chidambaram, during his visit to Maoist-affected states of Chattisgarh and Jharkand had ruled out that there was any move to involve the army in the fight against Naxalites but this is what India is hiding.

New Delhi has already allowed Indian Air Force to retaliate if it is attacked by Maoists. Similarly, unusual movement of Indian troops has taken place in Maoist-affected areas. The sources said India’s security agencies are trawling the international arms market to upgrade the country’s counter-insurgency capabilities. The Indian military has floated global tenders for more than 800 bulletproof vehicles, likely to be given to security agencies involved in counter-insurgency operations in Moist effected areas.
India announced a separate 10 billion dollar homeland security upgrade, to be completed before 2016. It is initially looking at affordable technology-laser-guided armaments, light vehicles and drones as priority purchases.

India has drawn up a multi-pronged strategy that will target top leaders, win people through a propaganda war and offer cadres a surrender-and-rehabilitation policy while launching an extensive armed operation in Maoist strongholds across the country.

The central government has also asked the state governments to speed up development works and employment generation programmes in the Naxal-affected areas so as to counter left wing extremism with development. A military advisor has been appointed to prepare an action plan for dealing with Maoists.

Indian central government is actively considering setting up of brigade headquarters or Army cantonments in interior areas of Naxal affected states.

The intelligence summaries submitted by the end of 2009 by Indian Military Intelligence (MI), Intelligence Bureau (IB) and Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) disclosed that Naxal menace could be wiped out from across the country only through joint operations to be conducted by Indian Air Force, Indian army and paramilitary forces. The operations against Naxals, according to a rough estimate, would last more than two years in which Israeli and US commandos would assist India with arms and expertise.

The government of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh is confident that they could wipe out Naxalites in a period between 12 to 30 months.
Defense experts claimed that New Delhi is going to commit a blunder at a time when worst political crisis has shaken the lower and upper Houses of the Indian democratic set up amid no public opinion in favour of the military offensive. Any full-fledged anti-Naxalite operation will be a great challenge to the Indian security establishment.

Crisis on Telangana has aggravated. Indian Prime Minister has backtracked on the government’s assurance on the formation of new Telangana state, saying it would “not be created in haste.”

The resignations of legislators from the Andhra and Rayalaseema regions of Andhara Pradesh have risen to close to 100 and nearly 130 protested on the bifurcation. Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister K Rosaiah expressed his helplessness in resolving the crisis that has engulfed the state. His 20 cabinet ministers have threatened to resign. Meanwhile during his first media appearance, K Chandrashekhar Rao of TRS reiterated that ‘there is no going back on the demand for Telangana’, however, he conceded that ‘we are not setting any deadlines.’

Naxalites are backed by the banned Communist Party of India (Maoist). According to Prime Minister of India, Naxalites’ extremism today constitutes the single most important internal security threat to India. The Naxal groups have spread their activities to as many as 22 out of 28 states in the country.
The term ‘naxalite’ draws its origin from an organized armed peasant resistance against the landlords that began in March 1967 in a small village called Naxalbari in the state of West Bengal. It signalled the birth of a new movement and since then, all forms of armed struggle with socio-economic development of the downtrodden as the cause have come to be termed ‘naxalite’. Other terms that are used to describe the movement are ‘leftwing extremism’ and ‘radical Maoism’.

Significantly, aside from the internal dynamics of the Maoist/ Naxal insurgency India also perceives an external element to it. Indian security and intelligence agencies maintain that the Maoists are receiving weapons from Bangladesh, Myanmar, Nepal and China through illegal channels.
There is also an increasing feeling for the need of a dialogue with all the groups involved in the Maoist/Naxal insurgency. The dialogue with Maoist is mere a ploy by the government to buy time before launching a stronger offensive against the Maoists.

One wonders, why Indian politicians and members of the civil society are reflecting ignorance on the issue.

It is right time to lobby against all those who are interested in misadventure against Naxalites as it would lead to popular movements for separatism, allowing foreign conspirators to interfere directly in the internal affairs of the country.

[fatboy]

I believe the Indian Maoists will be able to successfully take over India regardless of what the capitalists do.

Also Maoists in India burned 19 trucks that were to be used for iron-ore transportation hired by India's largest iron-ore mining company in the country. A victory for communism!

[Sendo]

I believe the Indian Maoists will be able to successfully take over India regardless of what the capitalists do.

I hope so. But what I get from this the most is that no stalemate is possible. This won't be one of those unrecognized but de facto separatist zoens. This is like China in the 1930s. It's getting serious. One way or the other. The two systems can no longer exist side-by-side. A system of robbing farmers of their land, the people of their water (so Coca-Cola can make cola.....and wash their office floors with drinking water), a system of bourgeois "democracy" and kow-towing to the West.....I have faith in eventual triumph though it may b delayed by US involvement.

[Tablo]

I may be an Anarchist, but I see a Maoist victory in India as being very positive. I wish the best to them and hope they win.

[Scary Monster]

Doesnt surprise me. Is there anything the US and their right-hand man Israel do, that doesnt involve violently repressing people? The Indian government doesnt sound like they are serious about any kind of diplomatic resolution (even though the naxalites and bourgeoisie can never live side by side anyway), from what this article says. So it seems an all-out battle is necessary. What exactly would be determined as a "win" for the naxalites against the Indian government and US/israeli bastards? I dont know much about the naxalite thing, but are they even militarily capable of a victory against a combined us/israeli/indian commando force?


A system of robbing farmers of their land, the people of their water (so Coca-Cola can make cola.....and wash their office floors with drinking water)

Aww man coca cola is soo damn good! im about to get some outta the fridge but now i will feel bad about drinkin it! :tongue_smilie: Is what u say true? I had no idea coca cola does that with people's drinking water!

[pranabjyoti]

Aww man coca cola is soo damn good! im about to get some outta the fridge but now i will feel bad about drinkin it! :tongue_smilie: Is what u say true? I had no idea coca cola does that with people's drinking water!
TRUE. Moreover, coke has a recent history of killing trade union leaders in Columbia and other parts of the world.

[bailey_187]

"The enemy advances, we retreat"

[Uppercut]

The Maoists will win eventually. If the Indian and U.S. governments are so afraid of these guys, they must be putting a serious dent in the capitalist system. When India does go Red, it'll rock the world, and India will no longer become a slave labor nation.

Peace, Bread, Land!!!:D

[red cat]

There are some claims in the report that need to be rectified.

Maoists are not separatists. Their goal is to lead the oppressed masses to seize power in the WHOLE of India. Of course, it recognizes that states like Kashmir and those in the north-east should be declared separate republics according to the popular demand there.

Joint operations involving the air force, though undeclared, have already started.

Naxalites are not "backed" by the CPI(Maoist), they ARE the CPI(Maoist) and its military wing, the PLGA.

Presently the even gentlest democratic movements in India are termed as "naxalite movements" and brutally put down as the state assumes a more and more fascist nature.

The foreign conspirators are already ruling India. It is nothing more than a neo-colony and all its "patriotic" parliamentary politicians mere puppets of imperialists.

Anyway, I hope that in case US and Israeli troops involve directly in India, they will go home defeated only to find post-revolution proletarian governments in their own countries. :)


LONG LIVE MARXISM-LENINISM-MAOISM !

VICTORY TO THE ONGOING PEOPLE'S WARS !

WORKERS OF THE WORLD, UNITE !

[pranabjyoti]

Comrades, please don't expect any comment or participation of from India. The demonic UAPA is there.

[red cat]

Comrades, please don't expect any comment or participation of from India. The demonic UAPA is there.

That helps us to deduce the comments you would have made otherwise. :lol:

[Dimentio]

This must be a sign of growing desperation of the urban elites in India. It would probably backfire though. Its never popular to take in foreign instructors to have them help with killing peasants. If these news are leaked out on the countryside, the rebels could probably increase their recruitment rate significantly.

[Delenda Carthago]

Any way to help financialy the guerillas from here?

[red cat]

Any way to help financialy the guerillas from here?

Really nice to see to such internationalist spirit. :)

It is difficult to say how much the CPI(Maoist) would benefit from an individual's donation. Moreover, the ruling class would use this opportunity fully to label them as agents of foreign conspirators.

The best thing to do would be to propagandize in general, and uphold the CPI(Maoist)'s line in whichever organization you belong to. Your organization can then collect and send a significant amount of financial help to the Indian revolutionaries.

[Nosotros]

Maybe I don't know enough about the situation but it seems to me that considering the circumstances, the Maoists will be wiped out and we will have a similar situation to the one in Sri lanka. I can't imagine Marxism being popular in india either, but maybe I'm wrong. Militarily though It looks like a defeat for the Maoists, again maybe I'm wrong but just feel I'm being realistic.

[red cat]

Maybe I don't know enough about the situation but it seems to me that considering the circumstances, the Maoists will be wiped out and we will have a similar situation to the one in Sri lanka. I can't imagine Marxism being popular in india either, but maybe I'm wrong. Militarily though It looks like a defeat for the Maoists, again maybe I'm wrong but just feel I'm being realistic.

The Maoists are a bit stronger than the LTTE though.

[Scary Monster]

TRUE. Moreover, coke has a recent history of killing trade union leaders in Columbia and other parts of the world.

Wow very despicable. This is more verbal ammunition against all the liberals that i encounter! Especially since coke is so ubiquitous and is sort of viewed as another triumph of american capitalism (which couldnt come about for coca cola without the murder of people). All i need is some kinda proof or article about their actions. Any links you might have that cover this?


This must be a sign of growing desperation of the urban elites in India. It would probably backfire though. Its never popular to take in foreign instructors to have them help with killing peasants. If these news are leaked out on the countryside, the rebels could probably increase their recruitment rate significantly.

Sounds like theyre once again cooking up another Vietnam. Just like in 'nam- blatantly fucking over much of the population will only cause recruitment levels to skyrocket and give the insurrectionists unbreakable morale to fight against an enemy whos not even trying to at least pretend they care about their poor.

[Lyev]

Haven't the Naxalites purposefully killed defenseless civilians though? I once spoke to an Indian comrade on here (who seemed fairly level-headed) and he was quite critical of them, as I remember. Are perhaps mass demonstrations and strike action not a better tactic than trying to wage guerrilla warfare?

[red cat]

Haven't the Naxalites purposefully killed defenseless civilians though? I once spoke to an Indian comrade on here (who seemed fairly level-headed) and he was quite critical of them, as I remember. Are perhaps mass demonstrations and strike action not a better tactic than trying to wage guerrilla warfare?

Just guessing ... if "here" means this forum, then was that "comrade" Vargha Poralli ?

Also, how are you supposed to seize power through mass demonstrations and strike actions?

[bailey_187]

the Maoists will be wiped out and we will have a similar situation to the one in Sri lanka.

IIRC the LTTE tried to fight the superior force head on. The Maoists (i assume) will follow Mao's guerilla war strategy of retreating when a stronger enemy advances. It is likley that the Maoists will just disapear into the local populations untill the attacks calm down. (Correct me if im wrong, anyone that knows better)



I can't imagine Marxism being popular in india either, but maybe I'm wrong.

Marxism is massivly popular in India. Although a revisionist party, a Communist Party has ruled in many Indian states for years. So people are open to Marxism - just many Marxists are revisionists (not the Maoists)




. Militarily though It looks like a defeat for the Maoists, again maybe I'm wrong but just feel I'm being realistic.

The Maoists will be realistic too we can assume. Rather than try to fight such a powerful enemy, they will retreat for the while. When they are strong enough they will attack

[Os Cangaceiros]

Haven't the Naxalites purposefully killed defenseless civilians though? I once spoke to an Indian comrade on here (who seemed fairly level-headed) and he was quite critical of them, as I remember. Are perhaps mass demonstrations and strike action not a better tactic than trying to wage guerrilla warfare?

I don't know if they have or not (I don't know much about Maoists in India in general), but I do know that other radical/NL movements that apologists on this board have made excuses for have done that, like Sendero Luminoso and LTTE. :rolleyes:

That said, I don't know enough to comment on the Indian situation. I do know that India's economy is growing fast, though, and that's probably going to have serious implications for any possibility of a Maoist victory (barring the possibility that it all collapses).

[RedScare]

This is an interesting move, not really surprising. With Maoism on the rise in Nepal, it's easy to see why the ruling class would try to stamp out the Maoist in India before they get too strong.

[red cat]

This is an interesting move, not really surprising. With Maoism on the rise in Nepal, it's easy to see why the ruling class would try to stamp out the Maoist in India before they get too strong.

The movement in India is already far stronger than its Nepali counterpart. In Bastar alone there are more than a hundred and fifteen thousand full-timers excluding the base force.

[Lyev]

Just guessing ... if "here" means this forum, then was that "comrade" Vargha Poralli ?
No their name was Golok Chandro Mukherjee. The exchange was via PMs but I'm sure they won't mind if I post this:

Dear comrade, I must admit that naxalites are nothing but a horde of criminally insane and lunatics who probably imitate pol pot and his khmer rouge, whoever "dares" to oppose them is killed by these cruel monsters in the name of eliminating "exploiters", actually they have done nothing more than terrorizing the tribals and other backward communities.they have blackened the name of communism so badly that now it has become difficult for communist parties to win in any election, moreover, they are now supporting separatists and extreme right wing parties and mercilessly killing the members of communist parties so as to strengthen their own bases and they are doing all these in the name of communism!:cursing::cursing:they do not spare even women and small children:crying::crying:
Also, how are you supposed to seize power through mass demonstrations and strike actions?
Yes, but to efficiently and properly seize power from below one needs to build a movement and create consciousness and awareness first. So, how are you supposed to build a movement with guerrilla warfare and terroristic tactics? You have to learn to walk before you can run.

Edit: I've just had a thought. It's pretty much a marked fact that oppression creates resistance; ie., depending on how big this conflict gets, people may well choose to side with the Naxalites rather than the US, Israeli and Indian forces, just like the choice that Afghans have between the Taleban and NATO.

[red cat]

No their name was Golok Chandro Mukherjee. The exchange was via PMs but I'm sure they won't mind if I post this:

I went through the user's profile. As his name suggests, he is from West Bengal. Interestingly, he is also from the uppermost elite caste (I am not saying that none of the elite caste people are progressive).

Though this user identifies with Bolshevik-Leninism, a term associated mainly with Trots. He also writes that it is impossible for "communists" to win any elections now. As Trots in India are so marginal that they never have any significant impact on election results, ( and I doubt whether they actually fight in or win any election anywhere in India) this is a bit odd. The self proclaimed communist parties that fight in the elections all stick to the historical line of Stalin.

Also, being an Indian citizen, the said user is expected to be aware of exactly why the parliamentary revisionists lost all the recent elections. Indians who still blame it on any factor other than the CPI(M)'s SEZ-fetish and its history of loot, murder and rape, specifically in West Bengal, are almost obviously hardcore supporters of this party.

So naturally the question arises as to why this user, and others, like Mahadeb Majumder, write "Bolshevik Leninist " instead of the terms used by parliamentary Stalinists(?), Though Mahadeb Majumder does not write anything in favor of the CPI(M), or it is better to say that he does not write anything at all, it is interesting to note that he uses exactly the same sentence as his political statement.

Another very interesting point is that, we have many users joining from West Bengal, and may be from some other parts of India, some of whom openly support the CPI(M), others who don't post at all, but access revleft regularly, right at the same time when the West Bengal government has started an ultra-modern cyber-police station in its capital, Kolkata, to "track and apprehend all those who pose danger to the state". Fellow Maoists, please deduce whatever you can from this.

Now to counter the allegations hurled at our Indian comrades by Golok Chandro Mukherjee....


Dear comrade, I must admit that naxalites are nothing but a horde of criminally insane and lunatics who probably imitate pol pot and his khmer rouge, whoever "dares" to oppose them is killed by these cruel monsters in the name of eliminating "exploiters", actually they have done nothing more than terrorizing the tribals and other backward communities.Given the participation of the ENTIRE population of oppressed masses in the Maoist movement, I can do nothing but conclude that the vast majority of Indians are lunatics. So is it a festival of lunatics that our dear comrade is so scared of ? This type of hysteric outbursts are only observed in Indian revisionists, government troop-members, and some first-world Trots who assign similar adjectives to Maoists.

What Maoists have done has been posted more than once in the main thread about Indian Maoists. By the way, even after a "communist" party ruling three provinces, one of them for 32 years at a stretch, how do "backward" communities even exist in these places ?



they have blackened the name of communism so badly that now it has become difficult for communist parties to win in any election, moreover, they are now supporting separatists and extreme right wing parties and mercilessly killing the members of communist parties so as to strengthen their own bases and they are doing all these in the name of communism!:cursing::cursing:they do not spare even women and small children:crying::crying:This one is new. As far as I know, the "Left Front" ( the main electoral front of Indian revisionists ) is the one that faithfully supports either INC or BJP, the two most brutal right wing parties of India, at any given instance.

"Women and children".. Can the user point out specifically any incident where children have been killed or injured by Maoists? Has there ever been any case of a Maoist raping a woman ? On the other hand, there have been countless cases of government troops raping, torturing and mutilating women and children. Look for the entries in the main thread for Indian Maoists.

What is more, in the last few years, the Indian parliamentary "communists" haven't spared even the lower petite-bourgeoisie from its terrorist acts. There have been at least two cases of these "communist" cadres attacking buses in which people were traveling to attend marriage-parties. In both the cases, EVERY YOUNG WOMAN IN THE BUS WAS RAPED AND MUTILATED.

About eight years ago, CPI(M) cadres BURNT SEVERAL MAOISTS ALIVE. They were reportedly engaged in the more peaceful work of organizing the peasantry. A true communist witch-hunt indeed !



Yes, but to efficiently and properly seize power from below one needs to build a movement and create consciousness and awareness first. So, how are you supposed to build a movement with guerrilla warfare and terroristic tactics? You have to learn to walk before you can run.

Edit: I've just had a thought. It's pretty much a marked fact that oppression creates resistance; ie., depending on how big this conflict gets, people may well choose to side with the Naxalites rather than the US, Israeli and Indian forces, just like the choice that Afghans have between the Taleban and NATO.Again, in the main thread you will find several accounts of what happens to any peaceful movement that tries to serve the oppressed masses in India. Also, in places the oppression is very intense. People own absolutely nothing, have to work almost all the time except for the meagre hours they sleep, and have to mostly rely on grass and ant-eggs for food. On what basis will they trust you if you reach them and then spend your time in organizing the rest of India? No, this is not possible. Similar to the fact that conditions for revolution come not at all countries at the same time due to unequal development, in a given country, the conditions for armed seizure of power may also pop up in a few pockets initially. In these areas, the people have been cheated and tortured from time immemorial. So they do not trust any outsiders. Maoists arriving in these places from outside have had to live exactly like them to gain there trust. They have worn only a single piece of torn cloth, eaten grass and insects, helped them in fields and forests, given medicines to the sick, nursed their women during giving birth. They have dug wells and canals, built dams and what not ? When the tribals opted for a peaceful solution, fully knowing what the consequences would be, they have lead them in the front line, in movements to increase wages and crop prices, only to face gang-rapes and murders in the hands of government troops and private-armies. Why should the peasant or the worker who sees all this not take up arms to avenge the death of the people who sacrificed so much for him? why should he have any repentance after ambushing government troops and goons hired by the parliamentary revisionists ? Why should he hesitate in organizing workers and peasants in other areas directly for armed struggle ? Why should he have difficulty in understanding that the world revolution is crouching right inside the barrel of his gun ?

In solidarity with our Indian comrades,

NAXALBARI KA RASTAA
EK HAI EK HAI !

[RadioRaheem84]

If India goes Red this will be big! Jeez, I mean I was not expecting full out war and it will probably stretch into Nepal too.

BUT before I throw in my moral support for the Maoists, does anyone have any sites or reference pages on the Maoists? I do not want to be supporting a movement that will then in turn make the country worse off. I would like some objective information on the Maoists. Any sources available that aren't sprinkled with bourgeois propaganda?

Also, the media will surely make the fight against Maoists somehow seem similar to teh War on Terror, equating Maoists/Communists/Leftist with Islamic radicals.

[RadioRaheem84]

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1810169-1,00.html

http://www.cfr.org/publication/12773/terror_groups_in_india.html

What the establishment thinks of the Maoists.

Apparently, this is an extreme rebel group that uses mass violence. Are we sure that we want to throw our support. Their class struggle is not what I am against but the methods are bit suspect.

[red cat]

http://www.revleft.com/vb/india-losing-maoist-t117578/index.html

http://southasiarev.wordpress.com/

http://indianvanguard.wordpress.com/

http://www.bannedthought.net/

http://sanhati.com/

http://maoistresistance.blogspot.com/

http://naxalrevolution.blogspot.com/

http://naxalrevolution.wordpress.com/

[NecroCommie]

This is worrying news. Whereas the Maoists would have been capable of countering anything the Indian government would throw upon them, this new turn of events gives them an opponent especially trained and experienced in fighting popular guerrilla armies. I fear we have a new Sri Lanka.

Then again I didn't read the article. If we are talking about a squad or two then I'd kiss their ass goodbye. Numbers still count despite the advantages of technology and training.

[bailey_187]

The movement in India is already far stronger than its Nepali counterpart. In Bastar alone there are more than a hundred and fifteen thousand full-timers excluding the base force.

Wow. The BBC said they were about 20,000 strong - thinking about it now though, i dont know why i beleived them :blushing:

[RadioRaheem84]

http://redalertthemovie.com/

Interesting movie. Liberal propaganda or accurate portrayal?

[Wakizashi the Bolshevik]

Whatever the USA, Israel and the Indian capitalists are planning, whatever they will do, it will be of no avail. Regardless of the amount of terrorism they will use, the number of death squads they will employ to carry out their genocidal agendas or the secret agencies that try to infiltrate into the lands of the free People of India, the People will win, we shouldn't doubt that, Comrades.
Let the American fascists and their mercenary Manmohan Singh try to stop the flood of history, try to stop inevitable evolution of civilization.

They will fail, inevitably. They are doomed to be crushed by the Fist of the People, in a glorious People's War that will root out capitalism for once and for all.

LONG LIVE THE NAXALITES!
LONG LIVE MARXISM-LENINISM-MAOISM!
LONG LIVE THE PEOPLE!!!

[the last donut of the night]

Just an advice to the comrades on this thread: I am also very happy over this news because it shows how desperate the Indian elites are getting. They are seeing the growing power of the Naxalites and are seeking help from the international bourgeoisie to destroy them. It is good news.

However, while we finally see a victory in the future, we must be wary and keep our eyes open. Although I am not as well aware on the Indian situation as other comrades, I know that the Naxalites are not invincible. They are strong and popular, but not invicible. So why we shout slogans that arouse our deepest yearnings for proletarian democracy, we must also keep our minds open. Let's not deceive ourselves easily here: I am sure there are harder times ahead, and although socialism is near, it is not here. We can't get drunk on the future, can we?

However, this news is awesome.

One day, my friends, one day, our children will look back upon the Maoist comrades and sing in their honor these words from The Internationale:


Let us group together, and tomorrow
The Internationale
Will be the human race!


Oh God, I'm all tears.:crying:

[RadioRaheem84]

I just hope they can organize and mobilize to win the ideological war around the world through the new media at least. I don't want them to pegged as a terrorist group that needs to be stopped at all costs and then anyone supportive of the movement is labeled a terrorist too.

[Tzadikim]

Is anyone surprised? This is what capitalists do - capitalist internationalism is the only form of internationalism they legitimize. You can rest assured that if the situation was reversed and it was the United States and Israel undergoing revolution, India would beat a hasty path to their aid.

This is why it's so important that we unite with revolutionaries anywhere and everywhere. I don't even like Maoism, but I'm more than willing to support the Naxalites in their on-going struggle.

[Pirate Utopian]

http://redalertthemovie.com/

Interesting movie. Liberal propaganda or accurate portrayal?
Sophie Hilbrand, a famous Dutch presentator is in the trailer at about 1:22.
I remember her doing it for this show called Try Before You Die, she had to play as an extra in a Bollywood movie.

The trailer seems opposed to violent revolution, which doesnt give much hope for the movie.

[scarletghoul]

This is getting pretty intense. Direct US military action might force the Maoists back a little for now,if it's done right. But at the same time, it highlights the imperialist nature of Amerikan involvement in India. Perhaps the Maoists will find more support for their anti-imperialism as people begin to see Amerikans killing the Indian people directly. Increased US military presence has given a lot of weight to the anti-imperialist stance of the Communists in the Phillipines and seems to increase sympathy for them, so maybe the same effect will happen in India.

[RadioRaheem84]

Is Maoism just big in general in Asia? I am really trying to see this as a good thing as I want to support a movement in India, as a I know if India goes socialist (truly socialist) it will be a big blow to imperialism.

I guess I've just been a bit biased with the Latino revolutions and the Spanish Anarchists. I am partial to more Republican based revolutions that have a broad coalition of socialists, communists, anarchists, progressives, etc.

[cyu]

Hard to predict who will win, but even if the pro-capitalist regime wins in the end, I can't imagine it turning out to be anything but a pyhrric victory. Judging by the past actions of the pro-capitalist regime, they only way they can win is through mass oppression and violation of every standard they pretend to have to the outside world. For those of us who can't do much else to help the Adivasi people if the pro-capitalist regime wins, then the least we can do would be to use their sure-to-be hellish behavior to delegitimize the ruling regime in the eyes of the general public.

http://beta.thehindu.com/news/states/other-states/article81403.ece
police ‘sanitisation operation’ killed nine villagers, including three women and a 12-year-old girl. “The police also cut off the fingers of a two-year-old infant,” said one witness speaking on condition of anonymity fearing police retribution.

http://www.tehelka.com/story_main43.asp?filename=Ne211209the_after.asp
"We hide in jungles during day, come to village at night. We don’t want to be arrested by police who come to our villages during day." Security forces destroyed foodgrains from previous harvest. Civil rights team members strangled, assaulted repeatedly – right outside police station.

http://southasiarev.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/morale-dropping-among-soldiers-deployed-in-operation-green-hunt/
Poorest sections of society deployed against own people. Mental trauma terrible, one reason why they become so inhuman when they raid a village. Hundreds of applications seeking transfer. A considerable number refuse to undergo jungle warfare training, go to Maoist areas.

http://southasiarev.wordpress.com/2010/01/10/chhattisgarh-police-intensify-intimidation-before-public-hearing/
Police Intimidation of Witnesses, Journalists, Students, Social Workers. "Prevented from leaving, assaulted, cameras taken away."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Bihar-cops-thrash-Jamia-professor-brand-him-Naxal/articleshow/5379196.cms
Associate professor assaulted, branded Naxalite by police for daring to ask why hutments were being demolished. Companion also beaten up. Lodged complaint asking whether people had right to ask police for written orders before dismantling houses of "poorest of the poor".

http://indianvanguard.wordpress.com/2009/12/10/police-assault-women-factfinding-team-in-narayanapatna-orissa/
"Reports of state-sponsored violence, rape, molestations and atrocities against adivasi villagers. A peaceful, democratic movement fighting for the dignity and rights of adivasis, is being branded extremist by the State in a prelude to unleashing terror on the tribal inhabitants of the area."

http://southasiarev.wordpress.com/2009/11/17/indian-gandhian-says-green-hunt-will-result-in-genocide-of-adivasis/
"It’s the CRPF [police] that beat up doctors who go into jungle to treat patients. They beat teachers too. They behead a child in front of his grandfather, rape Adivasi [indigenous] women at will. Green Hunt will result in genocide of Adivasis. Those who survive will become Naxalites."

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/maoists-justified-in-taking-up-arms-arundhati-roy/103902-3.html
"You have an army of very poor people being faced down by an army of rich that are corporate-backed. I am sorry but it is like that."

[pranabjyoti]

I went through the user's profile. As his name suggests, he is from West Bengal. Interestingly, he is also from the uppermost elite caste (I am not saying that none of the elite caste people are progressive).

Though this user identifies with Bolshevik-Leninism, a term associated mainly with Trots. He also writes that it is impossible for "communists" to win any elections now. As Trots in India are so marginal that they never have any significant impact on election results, ( and I doubt whether they actually fight in or win any election anywhere in India) this is a bit odd. The self proclaimed communist parties that fight in the elections all stick to the historical line of Stalin.

Also, being an Indian citizen, the said user is expected to be aware of exactly why the parliamentary revisionists lost all the recent elections. Indians who still blame it on any factor other than the CPI(M)'s SEZ-fetish and its history of loot, murder and rape, specifically in West Bengal, are almost obviously hardcore supporters of this party.

So naturally the question arises as to why this user, and others, like Mahadeb Majumder, write "Bolshevik Leninist " instead of the terms used by parliamentary Stalinists(?), Though Mahadeb Majumder does not write anything in favor of the CPI(M), or it is better to say that he does not write anything at all, it is interesting to note that he uses exactly the same sentence as his political statement.

Another very interesting point is that, we have many users joining from West Bengal, and may be from some other parts of India, some of whom openly support the CPI(M), others who don't post at all, but access revleft regularly, right at the same time when the West Bengal government has started an ultra-modern cyber-police station in its capital, Kolkata, to "track and apprehend all those who pose danger to the state". Fellow Maoists, please deduce whatever you can from this.

Now to counter the allegations hurled at our Indian comrades by Golok Chandro Mukherjee....

Given the participation of the ENTIRE population of oppressed masses in the Maoist movement, I can do nothing but conclude that the vast majority of Indians are lunatics. So is it a festival of lunatics that our dear comrade is so scared of ? This type of hysteric outbursts are only observed in Indian revisionists, government troop-members, and some first-world Trots who assign similar adjectives to Maoists.

What Maoists have done has been posted more than once in the main thread about Indian Maoists. By the way, even after a "communist" party ruling three provinces, one of them for 32 years at a stretch, how do "backward" communities even exist in these places ?


This one is new. As far as I know, the "Left Front" ( the main electoral front of Indian revisionists ) is the one that faithfully supports either INC or BJP, the two most brutal right wing parties of India, at any given instance.

"Women and children".. Can the user point out specifically any incident where children have been killed or injured by Maoists? Has there ever been any case of a Maoist raping a woman ? On the other hand, there have been countless cases of government troops raping, torturing and mutilating women and children. Look for the entries in the main thread for Indian Maoists.

What is more, in the last few years, the Indian parliamentary "communists" haven't spared even the lower petite-bourgeoisie from its terrorist acts. There have been at least two cases of these "communist" cadres attacking buses in which people were traveling to attend marriage-parties. In both the cases, EVERY YOUNG WOMAN IN THE BUS WAS RAPED AND MUTILATED.

About eight years ago, CPI(M) cadres BURNT SEVERAL MAOISTS ALIVE. They were reportedly engaged in the more peaceful work of organizing the peasantry. A true communist witch-hunt indeed !

Again, in the main thread you will find several accounts of what happens to any peaceful movement that tries to serve the oppressed masses in India. Also, in places the oppression is very intense. People own absolutely nothing, have to work almost all the time except for the meagre hours they sleep, and have to mostly rely on grass and ant-eggs for food. On what basis will they trust you if you reach them and then spend your time in organizing the rest of India? No, this is not possible. Similar to the fact that conditions for revolution come not at all countries at the same time due to unequal development, in a given country, the conditions for armed seizure of power may also pop up in a few pockets initially. In these areas, the people have been cheated and tortured from time immemorial. So they do not trust any outsiders. Maoists arriving in these places from outside have had to live exactly like them to gain there trust. They have worn only a single piece of torn cloth, eaten grass and insects, helped them in fields and forests, given medicines to the sick, nursed their women during giving birth. They have dug wells and canals, built dams and what not ? When the tribals opted for a peaceful solution, fully knowing what the consequences would be, they have lead them in the front line, in movements to increase wages and crop prices, only to face gang-rapes and murders in the hands of government troops and private-armies. Why should the peasant or the worker who sees all this not take up arms to avenge the death of the people who sacrificed so much for him? why should he have any repentance after ambushing government troops and goons hired by the parliamentary revisionists ? Why should he hesitate in organizing workers and peasants in other areas directly for armed struggle ? Why should he have difficulty in understanding that the world revolution is crouching right inside the barrel of his gun ?

In solidarity with our Indian comrades,

NAXALBARI KA RASTAA
EK HAI EK HAI !
Being a citizen of India, who live in Kolkata (Calcutta), West Bengal. I can say that Red Cat is 100% correct.

[RedScare]

Do the Maoist have any support in the cities at all? That seems to be an incredibly important part of this equation that everyone is ignoring....

[RadioRaheem84]

Do the Maoist have any support in the cities at all? That seems to be an incredibly important part of this equation that everyone is ignoring....

Every Indian person that I've talked to in the States that's from a city in India says that the Maoists are no good. It seems like they don't know a lot about what's really going on in the country side and the strife.

I read an interview with one of the actors from the movie about the Maoists called Red Alert, and she said that people in the cities are relatively clueless about the situation except for the stuff they see on TV.

[scarletghoul]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I would assume that most Indians living in the USA are from well off backgrounds, and do not figure into the Maoists' perspective support base. There are millions of Indian workers, lumpen, maybe petit-bourgeois, living in poverty in urban areas of India whose opinions you can not hear. Many students also support Maoists.

Anyway the Maoists have some urban organisation going on. Not as much as in the countryside though, and obviously not as visible as its much more difficult to exercise military control over an urban area than a rural area. Instead they're gathering mass support from the people, rather than doing a conspicuous military campaign.
This document from 2001 outlines their plans then for urban organisation
http://www.bannedthought.net/India/CPI-Maoist-Docs/UrbanPerspective.pdf