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RED DAVE
30th January 2010, 23:12
Money: the arbiter of all under capitalism. People are dying. This is murder.

US halts Haiti victim evacuations in 'medical bill row'


Hundreds of quake victims have been flown to the US for treatment
The US military has stopped evacuating Haitian earthquake victims to the US in a reported dispute over medical costs.

Flights stopped on Wednesday because some hospitals were reluctant to take patients from Haiti, a US military official told the New York Times.(emph added)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8489392.stm

RED DAVE

DecDoom
31st January 2010, 03:59
So, the Haitian earthquake victims aren't going to get any medical attention because the US couldn't find a way to profit from it.

Predictable, but terrible and inhuman all the same.

(A)(_|
31st January 2010, 06:49
Yup, the same thing happened when Israeli was bombarding and bombing Gaza on a daily basis 2 years ago. Egypt was very reluctant in letting aid and amenities in. They barely opened up the Rafah border and hid behind the reason that this would create new grounds for the people of Gaza outside of Gaza which is what the Israeli Zionist government wanted. Even when the borders would open, merchants from Egypt would charge overwhelming prices to the people of Gaza and very little medical conditions would go through, only those who were deeply critical and the quality of care wasn't good either.. that's capitalism for ya.. it's inhumane and ruthless.

Tablo
31st January 2010, 09:52
To see people treated so poorly makes me sick. I would do anything to see Communism in my lifetime. A system that puts profits before human life is sick and twisted.

Communist
20th February 2010, 04:34
Three in a Million - Voices from the Haitian Camps (http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/02/19)

by Bill Quigley
February 19, 2010

The United Nations reported there are 1.2 million
people living in "spontaneous settlements" or homeless
camps around Port au Prince. Three people living in the
camps spoke with this author this week, before the hard
rains hit.

Jean Dora, 71
My name is Jean Dora. I was born in 1939. I live in a
plaza in front of St. Pierre's church in Petionville
[outside of Port au Prince]. I am here with twelve
members of my family. We all lost our home.

We have a sheet of green plastic to shade us from the
sun. We put up some bed sheets around our space.

I have many small grandchildren living here with me. My
son and daughters live with here too.

My daughter will soon have a child. She will go to the
Red Cross tent when it is time for the baby to come.

I worked for the Chinese Embassy for 36 years. I
cleaned their offices. I retired in 2007. Until the
earthquake I lived in an apartment with my family. The
building was destroyed.

At night we put a piece of carpet down on the ground.
Then we lay covers down and try to sleep. When it
rains, the water comes in.

We bring bottles to fill up with water. But we have
very little food.

There is no toilet in the park. We must go behind the
church.

My son used to work to support us. He is a good chef.
He worked at a restaurant by the Hotel Montana. The
restaurant was destroyed. He lost his job. There is no
work.

During all my days, I have never seen anything like
this. I am not in a good position to say what will
happen next. I think things are not going to change. I
hope things will get better. But I don't think so.

My son has no job and he cannot help our family. If my
son is working, we can all stand up. If he is not
working, we are down.

The future is not clear. It looks dark for us.

Nadege Dora, 28
My name is Nadege Dora. I am 28. I have three boys and
one girl. I am supposed to deliver my baby this month.

I now live in the plaza in Petionville with the rest of
my family. Our house was destroyed. I used to sell
bread on the street to make a little money. The father
of the children does not help us. It is as if we are
not alive to him.

We are just trying to survive. No one in our family is
working. There is no work.

If you get a ticket you can go get a bag of rice. But I
am a pregnant woman. I cannot fight the crowds for a
ticket. I tried. But people were squashing me and I was
afraid I would get knocked down and crushed.

My niece helped a woman bring rice back from Delmas
[another neighborhood outside of Port au Prince]. She
shared her rice with us. Right now we still have some
rice. But we have no oil. No meat, no milk, nothing but
rice. We have no money to buy other ingredients.

Since the earthquake I have never eaten a full meal.

When my baby comes, I will go to the Red Cross tent to
have the baby. I went there to see a Doctor. They gave
me some pills. Those pills made me sick.

The mayor came here and asked people if we had
relatives in the countryside. They would help us go
there. But we do not want to go to the countryside. We
don't know anybody in the countryside. We need to have
a better life than this.

Garry Philippe, 47
My name is Garry Philippe. I am 47. I live by the
airport entrance. I built my own tent. I tied a sheet
to a tree and I put up poles to hold up other sheets.

I live here with my five children. My wife was killed
in our house in the incident. We lived in Village
Solidarity. I owned our house. I built our house over 4
years, step by step, as I got the money. I was outside
when it happened. My girls were by the front door and
ran out. My wife ran back to help the boys and she
died.

We had no funeral for my wife because we have no money
for a funeral. I buried her myself in a cemetery by
Cite Soleil.

The children cannot imagine that their mother is gone
just like that. They are always thinking about their
mother.

We do not have beds. When it is time to sleep we put
bags on the ground. Then we put our covers on the bags
and sleep.

We wash ourselves by putting water in a bottle. Then we
stand in a pot and pour the water on our selves.

When it rained we went to a place where they had a
plastic tent. We stayed there till the rain stopped.
More than 20 people were inside that tent.

Before, I was a mechanic in a garage. Where I worked
was destroyed. There is no work since the quake.

We heard other camps got bags of rice. In our camp,
nothing. I ask friends for food. Sometimes someone will
give us something to eat.

We have no toilet in this camp. When we have to make a
toilet, we do it in a bag. Then we bring the bag to the
edge of the camp. It is about a one minute walk away.

We see the trucks going in and out of the airport. Many
trucks. But the trucks never stop for us.

It is not safe here. But what can I do? I accept it, it
is God's work. We pray in the camp together.

No one has come to talk to us to tell us what is going
on. We know nothing about tents or tarps. There is no
school for the children.

I cannot tell you exactly what is going to happen next.
I am not the Lord. I think it is going to get worse for
us in the camps. We need tents and food. We need water
and school and jobs. We need help to find a place to
stay. The rain is coming soon. Water is going to come
and our babies will lose their lives.


Bill is legal director at the Center for Constitutional
rights and a long time human rights advocate. This
article was written with the assistance of Vladimir
Laguerre in Port au Prince. You can contact Bill at
quigley77(AT)gmail.com ([email protected]).

LeninistKing
20th February 2010, 05:48
The problem is this: Most americans love capitalism, it is fair to state that 95% of americans love capitalism and only 5% vote for socialist or alternative parties. To make 80% of americans vote for capitalist parties and 20% for socialist parties takes a lot of political activism and work, and even that number is too little for socialism to win an elections.

we are doomed

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To see people treated so poorly makes me sick. I would do anything to see Communism in my lifetime. A system that puts profits before human life is sick and twisted.

LeninistKing
20th February 2010, 05:51
WE ARE RULED BY PSYCHOPATHS. WATCH THIS BY MY FRIEND MIKE RIVERO ON THE COMING WAR WITH IRAN, AND HOW CRAZY ARE THESE PEOPLE OF THE PENTAGON, BECAUSE A WAR WITH IRAN WILL INVOLVE RUSSIA, CHINA, AND PROBABLY A DANGEROUS WAR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBPsKKGg_hk


Money: the arbiter of all under capitalism. People are dying. This is murder.

US halts Haiti victim evacuations in 'medical bill row'

(emph added)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8489392.stm

RED DAVE

The Vegan Marxist
20th February 2010, 05:51
That's why it's nice to see places like Cuba, Venezuela, & China actually help out Haiti, unlike the lack of help that the U.S. is giving.

Communist
8th March 2010, 19:45
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Sarkozy in Haiti (http://www.workers.org/2010/world/haiti_0311/)

Demands for reparations greet French president

By G. Dunkel
Mar 7, 2010


Recently, a French head of state visited Haiti for the first time since 1803. That’s when Napoleon’s army was decisively beaten at the Battle of Vertières by an army of ex-slaves who displayed exceptional valor and determination. Vertières was an especially humiliating defeat because the racist and colonialist French ruling class did not believe an army of Black people either kidnapped or born into subjugation, could defeat veteran French soldiers in hand-to-hand combat.

http://www.workers.org/2010/world/haiti_0311.jpg
Signs say: “Down with Preval! Down with Sarkozy!” and
“We want the return of Aristide!” Photo: Haïtí Liberté (http://www.haiti-liberte.com/)

French President Nicolas Sarkozy dropped in on Haiti for less than four hours on Feb. 17. He saw the earthquake devastation from a helicopter, made a speech in the gardens outside the ruined National Palace while Haitian President René Préval looked on, and then headed to Martinique and Guadeloupe, French colonial possessions in the Caribbean, and Guyana.

Thousands of protesters organized by Fanmi Lavalas, the party of exiled President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, showed up at the National Palace shortly after word of Sarkozy’s visit got out. They carried signs demanding restitution of the $21.69 billion (as of 2003) that France extorted from Haiti in 1825, as well as reparations for the two centuries of French slavery and all the violence and misery that flowed from that.

They also demanded the return of former President Aristide and chanted, “Down with Préval!” Some signs read, “Nicolas Sarkozy, slavery and colonialism are worse than the catastrophe of January 12.” (La Presse, Feb. 18)

France deliberately adopted a genocidal strategy against the Haitian people from 1792 to 1803, a genocide that failed only because the army carrying it out was crushed. But under King Charles X, France sent its fleet to Haiti in 1825 to extort 150 million gold francs as payment for the “property” — that is to say, the enslaved human beings and the land — its citizens had lost with the success of the Haitian Revolution. This debt was so crushing that it took 122 years for Haiti to repay it completely.

Despite this history, Sarkozy had the gall to say, “Between our two countries, the ties are intense, family-like, but as in every family there have been some very painful moments.”

The French leader raised the issue of interimperialist rivalry when he spoke against putting Haiti under “tutelage,” a 21st-century version of a “protectorate.” He said, “To those who ... embrace the idea of an international tutelage over Haiti, I say this: The Haitian people are battered, the Haitian people are exhausted but the Haitian people are standing tall.”

Sarkozy seemed to have forgotten that his predecessor and compatriot Jacques Chirac cooperated fully with the United States and Canada in the coup-kidnapping of President Aristide and in placing Haiti under the “tutelage” of a United Nations occupation.
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chegitz guevara
9th March 2010, 17:51
The problem is this: Most americans love capitalism, it is fair to state that 95% of americans love capitalism and only 5% vote for socialist or alternative parties.

In truth, most Americans do not love capitalism. Mostly we are resigned to it, and are bombarded constantly with propaganda about how we live in the best of all possible worlds, and that if you aren't living the high life, it's your fault.

However, 20% of Americans think socialism (undefined) is superior to capitalism, while another 27% don't know whether socialism or capitalism would be better. Among people under 30, those numbers jump to 30% and 33% respectively. In fact, most Americans seem to hate current capitalism, even conservatives. They just don't know that they hate it, calling what we currently have "socialism" and demanding a return to pure capitalism.

Why Americans don't vote socialist is because we have a first past the post system, and if you don't vote for one of the two major parties, the party you hate more might win.

Wolf Larson
9th March 2010, 18:16
On the opposite side of the coin : Glen Beck Documentary Exposes The Evil Nature Of socialism! http://www.examiner.com/x-31959-Chicago-Libertarian-Examiner~y2010m1d22-Glenn-Beck-documentary-exposes-the-evil-nature-of-socialism-and-communism-Live-Free-or-Die-Video For some reason there seems to be hundreds of thousands of white working class John Galt hero's roaming the streets with American flags screaming - "socialism caused our problems! Socialism is evil!" They seem to think the uber war mongering imperialist capitalist Obama is a socialist [as do some of us] and any liberal capitalist agenda Democrats try to implement is socialism and when workers are trying to keep unemployment funded it's socialism and when workers are unionizing to keep industrial jobs it's socialism and when dying elderly and children are begging for healthcare it's socialism and when the freeways are being built it's socialism and when we protest these wars it's that evil socialism and when GM goes bankrupt it's all socialism's fault and when our economy goes into a crisis of overproduction because not enough workers are able to afford the products it's socialism and when I take a shit in the morning it's socialism and when the gamblers on Wall St raid social security it's capitalism because we all know that evil social security is socialism and my dog died this morning because of socialism and Mark Levin told me lobbyists in Washington are socialists working for socialist corporations and the Federal Reserve is really an evil socialist banking cartel trying to implement a communist global government and World Bank's austerity measures in second/third world nations is socialism and Ben Bernanke is a socialist and Obama has appointed a bunch of socialists from Wall St and Rahm Emanuel is a socialist and this corporate mandate health bill is socialism and we're all going to die.

In reality there isn't any viable socialist movement in America. This capitalist crisis has created the exact opposite. A bunch of idiot white working class self hating brainwashed fools. The capitalists first put the trojan horse Obama into office to marginalize leftists in Washington and kicked up the media propaganda to insure Obama sticks to the plan. It's that simple. Those of us who are supporting Obama are delusional and are counterrevolutionary. I know there are closet liberals even on RevLeft but within society the problem is worse. Too many people on the left were lulled to sleep by Obama. The pied Piper. I can smell the apologetic stench through my computer. I smell it as I walk around my community in Berkeley, Oakland and San Fransisco. Obama marginalized the antiwar movement. He marginalized the anti-globalization movement. He marginalized the socialist movement. Obama or the sycophantic support for Obombya combined with the false paradigm created by the media has marginalized the left and we are in danger of seeing an even more right wing direction in the near future.

Wolf Larson
9th March 2010, 18:30
That's why it's nice to see places like Cuba, Venezuela, & China actually help out Haiti, unlike the lack of help that the U.S. is giving.

The nice people of Cuba and Venezuela won't have an economy to speak of if Iran is taken over by the US. Thanks to US trade embargoes and under the table backwards dealings Iran is one of the few wealthy nations helping socialism take hold in South America. This is one of the reasons the US wants the current regime out of power.