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Ol' Dirty
22nd January 2010, 12:32
This was brought to my attention while listening to NPR:

From the New York Times, http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/22/us/politics/22donate.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/22/us/politics/22donate.html)

Lobbyists Get Potent Weapon in Campaign Finance Ruling
By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
Published: January 21, 2010
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court has handed a new weapon to lobbyists. If you vote wrong, a lobbyist can now tell any elected official that my company, labor union or interest group will spend unlimited sums explicitly advertising against your re-election.

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Senator Charles E. Schumer, center, has been working on legislation in response to the decision.

Justices, 5-4, Reject Corporate Spending Limit (January 22, 2010)


How Corporate Money Will Reshape Politics (http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/21/how-corporate-money-will-reshape-politics/)

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“We have got a million we can spend advertising for you or against you — whichever one you want,’ ” a lobbyist can tell lawmakers, said Lawrence M. Noble, a lawyer at Skadden Arps in Washington and former general counsel of the Federal Election Commission.
The decision seeks to let voters choose for themselves among a multitude of voices and ideas when they go to the polls, but it will also increase the power of organized interest groups at the expense of candidates and political parties.
It is expected to unleash a torrent of attack advertisements from outside groups aiming to sway voters, without any candidate having to take the criticism for dirty campaigning. The biggest beneficiaries might be well-placed incumbents whose favor companies and interests groups are eager to court. It could also have a big impact on state and local governments, where a few million dollars can have more influence on elections.
The ruling comes at a time when influence-seekers of all kinds have special incentives to open their wallets. Amid the economic crisis, the Obama administration and Congressional Democrats are trying to rewrite the rules for broad swaths of the economy, from Detroit to Wall Street. Republicans, meanwhile, see a chance for major gains in November.
Democrats predicted that Republicans would benefit most from the decision, because they are the traditional allies of big corporations, who have more money to spend than unions.
In a statement shortly after the decision, President Obama called it “a green light to a new stampede of special interest money in our politics.”
As Democrats vowed to push legislation to install new spending limits in time for the fall campaign, Republicans disputed the partisan impact of the decision. They argued that Democrats had proven effective at cultivating their own business allies — drug companies are spending millions of dollars to promote the administration’s health care proposals, for example — while friendly interest groups tap sympathetic billionaires and Hollywood money.
After new restrictions on party fund-raising took effect in 2003, many predicted that the Democrats would suffer. But they took Congress in 2006 and the White House two years later.
While Democrats pledged new limits, some Republicans argued for bolstering parties and candidates by getting rid of the limits on their fund-raising as well. Several cases before lower courts, including a suit filed by the Republican National Committee against the Federal Election Commission, seek to challenge those limits.
Thursday’s decision, in Citizens United vs. the Federal Election Commission, “is going to flip the existing campaign order on its head,” said Benjamin L. Ginsberg, a Republican campaign lawyer at the law-and-lobbying firm Patton Boggs who has represented both candidates and outside groups, including Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, a group formed to oppose Senator John Kerry’s 2004 presidential campaign.
“It will put on steroids the trend that outside groups are increasingly dominating campaigns,” Mr. Ginsberg said. “Candidates lose control of their message. Some of these guys lose control of their whole personalities.”
“Parties will sort of shrink in the relative importance of things,” he added, “and outside groups will take over more of the functions — advertising support, get out the vote — that parties do now.”
In practice, major publicly held corporations like Microsoft or General Electric are unlikely to spend large sums money on campaign commercials, for fear of alienating investors, customers and other public officials.
Instead, wealthy individuals and companies might contribute to trade associations, groups like the Chamber of Commerce or the National Riffle Association, or other third parties that could run commercials.
Previously, Mr. Noble of Skadden Arps said, his firm had advised companies to be wary about giving money to groups that might run so-called advocacy commercials, because such activity could trigger disclosure requirements that would identify the corporate financers.
“It could be traced back to you,” he said. “That is no longer a concern.”
Some disclosure rules remain intact. An outside group paying for a campaign commercial would still have to include a statement and file forms taking responsibility. If an organization solicits money specifically to pay for such political activities, it could fall under regulations that require disclosure of its donors.
And the disclosure requirements would moderate the harshness of the third-party advertisements, because established trade associations or other groups are too concerned with their reputations to wage the contentious campaigns that ad hoc groups like MoveOn.org or Swift Boat Veterans for Truth might do.
Two leading Democrats, Senator Charles E. Schumer of New York and Representative Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, said that they had been working for months to draft legislation in response to the anticipated decision.
One possibility would be to ban political advertising by corporations that hire lobbyists, receive government money, or collect most of their revenue abroad.
Another would be to tighten rules against coordination between campaigns and outside groups so that, for example, they could not hire the same advertising firms or consultants.
A third would be to require shareholder approval of political expenditures, or even to force chief executives to appear as sponsors of commercials their companies pay for.
The two sponsors of the 2002 law tightening the party-fundraising rules each criticized the ruling.
Senator Russ Feingold, Democrat of Wisconsin, called it “a terrible mistake.” Senator John McCain of Arizona, the Republican presidential nominee in 2008, said in a television interview on CNN that he was “disappointed.”
Fred Wertheimer, a longtime advocate of campaign finance laws, said the decision “wipes out a hundred years of history” during which American laws have sought to tamp down corporate power to influence elections.
But David Bossie, the conservative activist who brought the case to defend his campaign-season promotion of the documentary “Hillary: The Movie,” said he was looking forward to rolling out his next film in time for the midterm elections.
Titled “Generation Zero,” the movie features the television host Lou Dobbs and lays much of the blame for the recent financial collapse on the Democrats.
“Now we have a free hand to let people know it exists,” Mr. Bossie said.

This is just more evidence that this country's political system was built to represent big money and not the American people as a whole. I'll write a more detailed criticism later, but I'm pretty livid... intellectually, not viscerally... It's 07:30, and I'm too drowsy to feel much emotion.

Also, I would like to point out that the name of the guy at the end is "Mr. Bossie".

h9socialist
22nd January 2010, 13:54
The American system is 200 years out-of-date and ready to collapse. The Supreme Court has acted to protect "The New Guilded Age."

The time for Revolution is at hand -- unfortunately, the teabaggers seem way better organized than the Left right now.

Liberateeducate
22nd January 2010, 14:16
The American system is 200 years out-of-date and ready to collapse. The Supreme Court has acted to protect "The New Guilded Age."

The time for Revolution is at hand -- unfortunately, the teabaggers seem way better organized than the Left right now.
Not to mention democrats/liberals are being demonized as the LEFTIST threat, while they sit and laugh at the Teabaggers, which further alienates the teabaggers and reinforces their beliefs.
extreme right-wing tea baggers are organized, they hate the current democratic presidency/cabinet because they think its LEFT, then they feel warranted in their ideology when the democrats simply laugh them off like they are no threat, while the republicans don't swear them off right away but wait for key times they can benefit from the teabaggers massive presence.

its like backwards, all the while Beck, is trying to get them to invest in gold and whatever else corporate sponser he has haha

Vendetta
24th January 2010, 13:47
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8473253.stm
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31786.html

God bless legalized bribery!

My vote's a joint Microsoft/Disney government by 2020. :closedeyes:

Monkey Riding Dragon
24th January 2010, 16:52
This is the best democracy money can buy.

This decision will change the way electioneering occurs in this country by way of bringing many of the back-room and back-door deals that already decide election results out in the open. That the pigs who run this society are no longer ashamed of their methods of election buying is what this ruling signifies.

Let's take a read to some of the logic presented by the prevailing side.


"If the First Amendment has any force, it prohibits Congress from fining or jailing citizens, or associations of citizens, for simply engaging in political speech."

--Supreme Court Injustice Kennedy
"...simply engaging in political speech," he assures us. According to this reasoning, one's free speech rights can literally be measured in the number of dollars one possesses. Thus the application of democratic rights occurs in an exceedingly unequal way. The few who run this society have thousands and even millions of times as many "political speech" rights as the vast number of working class and impoverished people. So who will election results favor as a result? This is the equation of the laws of supply and demand with democracy. The corporate world supplies the candidates, sells you on them, and then reaps the resultant profits. Just like marketing competing brands of toothpaste.

Democracy to the bourgeoisie simply means their ability to buy and sell votes. Hence why lobbying (legal bribery) is considered the ultimate and indispensable application of democracy in this country. This is just as freedom to the bourgeoisie simply means freedom of trade -- the ability to exploit as one chooses, wherever one chooses. This is what "liberty and justice for all" means here in the "free world". From this country's very foundations, the exclusive right of wealthy property owners to vote and to hold office was institutionalized. Once that evaporated under the pressure of America's first great labor movement (which lasted from 1825 until 1837), systems of political machines were devised to replace it. Now that those have also become socially unacceptable since World War 2, elections are bought in more subtle ways, mainly behind the scenes. (For some reason I feel like recommending the movie Bulworth here.) This move by the Supreme Court will largely eliminate the subtlety and lay bare the way capitalist democracy really works for all to see.

Democracy, moreover, is only valuable to the bourgeoisie insofar as it sustains their rule and advances their class interests. Where the bourgeoisie rule it incapable of doing so, it is not applied. Take a look at the U.S. puppet regime in Haiti for example. When a president was elected there that even nominally defied American interests, the CIA, together with the International Republican Institute and a host of U.S. troops, in 2004 abducted and exiled him and occupied the capital city. Or look at the modern history of Iran for example. What kind of political system did the U.S. install there from 1953 until the people revolted in 1979? An absolute monarchy. What kind of country did Chile become shortly after a populist government was elected there in the early 1970s? A military dictatorship propped up by the United States. Or look at America's flip-flopping historical position on Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein: when a bulwark against an Iran-in-rebellion, Saddam got WMDs from the Reagan Administration. When challenging U.S. oil interests in the Persian Gulf, by contrast, suddenly he was an oppressor who had to be contained and finally overthrown, to be replace by a U.S.-installed "democratic regime". Or look at how the "democratic" political processes work in Afghanistan in the absence of self-determination: with the Supreme Court decreeing the victors. We could go on and on and on. And those are just examples of how this country has applied and not applied democracy (in the shallow way it defines that). Democratic processes matter at all to the capitalist class only insofar as they are profitable.

Floyce White
25th January 2010, 03:08
I don't see how it matters. They're just lining up all the laws with the precept of "corporate personhood."

Die Neue Zeit
25th January 2010, 04:21
Earlier thread:

http://www.revleft.com/vb/supreme-court-rejects-t127523/index.html