So who here is pumped for the Glenn Beck special tomorrow?

[Os Cangaceiros]

I know I am. Glenn's gonna be laying some serious truth down for the 'murikan people in his hour-long documentary about how evil the Left is, and how it's both fascistic AND socialist.

I can't wait.

[bricolage]

live-o

[bcbm]

looks great (http://www.glennbeck.com/content/videos/?uri=channels/338017/755736)

[Revy]

ready as ever! http://www.thisboardrocks.com/forum/images/smilies/smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-ani.gif

[Il Medico]

ready as ever! http://www.thisboardrocks.com/forum/images/smilies/smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-ani.gif
Usa! Usa! Usa!

[bcbm]

http://www.kometweb.com/anno2008/cryingeagle.gif

[Raúl Duke]

:laugh:

[which doctor]

I'm so thankful I live in these fantastic 50 states of ours.

I BLEED RED WHITE AND BLUE!!!

[Revy]

http://www.kometweb.com/anno2008/cryingeagle.gif

A bald eagle painted red white and blue crying sparkling tears of blood.
wow.

[black magick hustla]

http://www.kometweb.com/anno2008/cryingeagle.gif

omg i am laughing so hard

[Jimmie Higgins]

Is this a "movie" he's paying movie chains to play in their theaters like the last one*? When I clicked on the link to Beck's website, I noticed that he endorsed Gold-investing. no wonder advertisers don't leave him - he's a dream for Sham-Wow and taking-Grandma's-Savings Pyramid schemes advertisers because he's cultivated an audience full of idiots who will buy any bullshit.




*If I had any influence with anyone who had media power, I would make Stephen Colbert do a regular movie based on his show that was a parody of Glen Beck's paid infomovie.

[Liberateeducate]

I see a rise of brutal beatings of college/highschool students who wear Che memorabilia in public, that the tea baggers will endorse/support

[Jimmie Higgins]

Ok, just watched the film and apon much consideration I have come to the conclusion that it is the funniest video I have ever seen. Halfway through his rant he starts hawking anti-virus software (like the gold-investing schemes, another advertiser who plays on paranoid dumb people). Then he ends with a clip of Geroge Bernard Shaw (who like Che never was "a dictator" of anything) who is a stairist and making a joke about the rich not being useful because they don't produce anything... all with a "hell on earth" background.

I bet his crack "research team" consisting of two frat boys and a mule dressed as a prom queen spent hours looking for film footage of Karl Marx but the closest they could find was this socialist author... because he had a big beard.

Glenn Beck: "Pygmaleon is COMMIE PROPAGANDA! Don't the poor know they are genetically destined to always be poor slobs - the rich are rich because of virtue, not because they have been taught to speak with a proper accent and educated!"

[Os Cangaceiros]

What I find funniest about Glenn Beck is that he constantely keeps saying that Saul Alinsky is a "hero of the radical Left".

Newsflash: No one on the radical Left gives a shit about Saul Alinsky. I've talked with quite a few people of assorted tendencies, and not once has his name come up.

And no one gives a shit about some dusty old thesis written by a Columbia professor over four decades ago, either. :rolleyes:

[Guerrilla22]

LOL it looks great.

[Liberateeducate]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro5LCv__gmg

Insider video of Glenn talking about his upcoming documentary, The Revolutionary Holocaust, airing Friday, January 22, 2010 on the Fox News Channel at 5p & 2a ET.

I know its funny to laugh at how much Beck spews ignorance, but aren't any of you really concerned about the people who are easily influenced by his crap?

[Robespierre2.0]

holy fuck

somebody paid a bunch of glue-sniffing chimpanzees to open up old soviet/nazi footage in Vegas Pro 9 and haphazardly slap on every video effect available.

god I fucking hate that MTV-esque 'EDGY' video editing. I find this era we live in truly baffling- I don't want to believe that there actually is a market for this dreck- people whose political philosophy can be influenced by an MTV documentary with spooky music.

[Jimmie Higgins]

aren't any of you really concerned about the people who are easily influenced by his crap?I'm more concerned about the people who disagree with this crap but are getting politically demoralized and don't like what's going on but don't know how to organize themselves to do anything about it.

A lot of people in the US are confused and hurting and angry because of the economic crisis and Glen Beck is appealing to the right wing of that sentiment - unfortunately no one with a high profile is speaking to the more progressive side of popular anger.

[Martin Blank]

Hope they re-run it sometime after this weekend. I'm at the WIIU Convention this weekend, so I'll be busy at 5 p.m. ET.

Besides, I'm not going to get all weepy about the Stalinites having a bad day on Faux News.

[ZeroNowhere]

stairistI would satire this, but I'm tired.

[Patchd]

looks great (http://www.glennbeck.com/content/videos/?uri=channels/338017/755736)
OMG, is that what American TV is like ... having an advert, done by Beck himself, half way through what he's talking about. That thing just would not sell here, people will be like; "lol, lame".

[Jimmie Higgins]

OMG, is that what American TV is like ... having an advert, done by Beck himself, half way through what he's talking about. That thing just would not sell here, people will be like; "lol, lame".It's strange, I know. US television has increasingly used advertising within shows to attack more advertising at a time when ad revenues for programs is way down - supposedly also to combat all the people who TiVo and fast-forward commercials or watch online.

But most programs try and hid the advertisement or segregate it from the narrative portion of the show. I'm sure Beck feels an ideological justification to proudly and opely sell this shit.

[Axle]

Glenn Beck might be pulling the biggest Godwin ever. The promo mentioned Nazis, but only really did that to connect them to other shit...I'm guessing that's how the "documentary" will go since no one's really wearing Hitler T-shirts.

[Liberateeducate]

I'm more concerned about the people who disagree with this crap but are getting politically demoralized and don't like what's going on but don't know how to organize themselves to do anything about it.No of anyone or group trying to organize these people?


A lot of people in the US are confused and hurting and angry because of the economic crisis and Glen Beck is appealing to the right wing of that sentiment - unfortunately no one with a high profile is speaking to the more progressive side of popular anger. I agree with you on this 100%, its a really sad state of affairs.

[The Red Next Door]

Bullshit goodness that is glen beck

[Robocommie]

Good Christ. You guys watching this bullshit? He's making this really long and outrageous case that Nazism is the exact same thing as Socialism and Marxism. How the fuck are we supposed to protect ourselves against this kind of slander and lying as he further pollutes the image of the Left in the United States?

[AK]

Gah, it's like no-one ever got sick of Nazi documentaries or something. They even have to loosely tie this purported "communism" to Nazism. Glenn Beck epic fails.

[Chambered Word]

Good Christ. You guys watching this bullshit? He's making this really long and outrageous case that Nazism is the exact same thing as Socialism and Marxism. How the fuck are we supposed to protect ourselves against this kind of slander and lying as he further pollutes the image of the Left in the United States?

We're planning to do a video sometime at the Leftist Video Project but I'm not sure when. Hopefully soon.

[Robocommie]

We're planning to do a video sometime at the Leftist Video Project but I'm not sure when. Hopefully soon.

Good point, I have been following that recently.

[Jimmie Higgins]

No of anyone or group trying to organize these people? Aren't we all trying to do this?

Do you mean specifically people who are angry about the red-baiting craziness of right-wing populist pundits? There are liberal groups like media-watch and there was an attempted (advertising) boycott of Glenn Beck (hence his remaining advertisers are all a strange bunch of medical-alert plans and investment schemes). The boycott was called for by Color of Change - this is why Glenn Beck used his program to red-bait Van Jones (who co-founded Color of Change). But trying to create and advertising boycott Beck for calling Obama a racist probably helped raise his profile and feed into his "the world is out to get white people and the elites are all black socialists" paranoia more than anything else. If there had been a boycott I would have perferred that they focused on his calls to nuke the entire middle east because Islam is not compatible with American values... but he said that on CNN and apparently liberals will only boycott you if you say something racist on FOX.

So I think the best way to counter right-wing blow-hards in the long run (we should always support protests against them when they say some particular piece of racist garbage) is by helping to build working class struggles that can appeal to the working class anger out there as well as provide an alternative and radical answer to the economic crisis and wars and so on.

Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh's bullshit will hold a lot less weight when what they are saying is being undeniably dis-proven by masses of workers or students and so on. If Lou Dobbs is saying that immigrants are "stealing our jobs" but native and immigrant workers at the same workplace are uniting in militant struggles to protect their mutual jobs, then the TV bullshit will be as convincing as if George Bush got on TV tomorrow and said that the Iraqis are dancing in the streets and hugging American soldiers and have been doing so constantly since the US invasion.

[Chambered Word]

Aren't we all trying to do this?

Do you mean specifically people who are angry about the red-baiting craziness of right-wing populist pundits? There are liberal groups like media-watch and there was an attempted (advertising) boycott of Glenn Beck (hence his remaining advertisers are all a strange bunch of medical-alert plans and investment schemes). The boycott was called for by Color of Change - this is why Glenn Beck used his program to red-bait Van Jones (who co-founded Color of Change). But trying to create and advertising boycott Beck for calling Obama a racist probably helped raise his profile and feed into his "the world is out to get white people and the elites are all black socialists" paranoia more than anything else. If there had been a boycott I would have perferred that they focused on his calls to nuke the entire middle east because Islam is not compatible with American values... but he said that on CNN and apparently liberals will only boycott you if you say something racist on FOX.

So I think the best way to counter right-wing blow-hards in the long run (we should always support protests against them when they say some particular piece of racist garbage) is by helping to build working class struggles that can appeal to the working class anger out there as well as provide an alternative and radical answer to the economic crisis and wars and so on.

Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh's bullshit will hold a lot less weight when what they are saying is being undeniably dis-proven by masses of workers or students and so on. If Lou Dobbs is saying that immigrants are "stealing our jobs" but native and immigrant workers at the same workplace are uniting in militant struggles to protect their mutual jobs, then the TV bullshit will be as convincing as if George Bush got on TV tomorrow and said that the Iraqis are dancing in the streets and hugging American soldiers and have been doing so constantly since the US invasion.

You do realize that people believe that, right?

[Jimmie Higgins]

You do realize that people believe that, right?ANd most of them are media pundits and talk-show hosts.

Yes, some regualr people too - a tiny fraction compared to the people who believed it in 2003, when they had no other information than what the media and government were saying. That's my point, the media can say things all they want and if people have nothing in their own experience to contradict it or no alternative information, they will likely believe it. But the media can't go on forever saying, for example, the economy is good when people are still struggling to find work; or that Iraqis love the occupation - attacks on the US forces quickly exposed this one to be a lie for all but that fraction I mentioned above.

As Lincoln quote goes... you can fool some of the people all the time or all of the people for some of the time but you can't fool all the people all the time. I think this is a pretty true statement when it comes to modern TV and newsmedia bullshit. The tea-partiers are the "some" that are always fools. The "all" would be like the shallow nationalist ferver after 9/11.

The government and media do a propaganda blitz to convince the population that war or the TARP bailout are necissary and people buy it because of ruling class hegemony on society and the way the media closes ranks at times like that and only presents the information from the pentagon or from the treasury department or whatever. But when real life experience inevitably begins to contradict the party line, people are also quick to disbelieve it... and most of the time all people in the US are heavily cynical about what the media and politicians say. This doesn't garentee that the people who then disbelieve the government line will turn to radical consiousness - they will likely turn to whatever other plausable explaination is around... this leads to litening to conspiracy theorists or just beliving that "all politicians are simply corrupt" and so on.

[Os Cangaceiros]

The documentary was silly. And dishonest, especially the one part I watched straight through (Nazi Germany-socialism comparisons). He didn't even talk about the SA, Ernst Rohm or the Night of the Long Knives, and that seems pretty damn important when you're speaking about the Nazis wishing to "abolish capitalism".

And when he talked about the German Communists allying with the Nazis on some things, he neglected to mention that the KPD was at war with the SPD at the time. Their cooperation was based on a petty political struggle, not on ideological common ground. Again, that seems pretty important to mention, but I guess he was allergic to context. :rolleyes:

[Nwoye]

His video which tried to paint all communists as murderers actually made me want to become a murderer.

[Chambered Word]

The documentary was silly. And dishonest, especially the one part I watched straight through (Nazi Germany-socialism comparisons). He didn't even talk about the SA, Ernst Rohm or the Night of the Long Knives, and that seems pretty damn important when you're speaking about the Nazis wishing to "abolish capitalism".

And when he talked about the German Communists allying with the Nazis on some things, he neglected to mention that the KPD was at war with the SPD at the time. Their cooperation was based on a petty political struggle, not on ideological common ground. Again, that seems pretty important to mention, but I guess he was allergic to context. :rolleyes:

From what I've read there actually was no cooperation, they simply did not have the united power to oppose the NSDAP.

[Robocommie]

And when he talked about the German Communists allying with the Nazis on some things, he neglected to mention that the KPD was at war with the SPD at the time. Their cooperation was based on a petty political struggle, not on ideological common ground. Again, that seems pretty important to mention, but I guess he was allergic to context. :rolleyes:

Best kind of slander and libel. Half-truths, which when given a modicum of research might stand up to scrutiny, but which anyone who actually understands the truth (which won't be most people) know to be a total disregard for the whole story.

[Sasha]

:lol: i just managed to watch like the first 5 minutes of the show, jezusholyshit, that taking populist rethoric to a whole new level.
strange thing was that i was on the moment i switched off kinda agreeing with beck, yes, there wasnt that much difrence between hitler and the great "communist" dictators (talking about social and economical programs, not genocide offcourse), yes unions where and are fucked in rusia, china and cuba, etc etc.

maybe we should start an anarchist/left-communist glenn beck is right fanclub.... that would piss him off.

[Chambered Word]

:lol: i just managed to watch like the first 5 minutes of the show, jezusholyshit, that taking populist rethoric to a whole new level.
strange thing was that i was on the moment i switched off kinda agreeing with beck, yes, there wasnt that much difrence between hitler and the great "communist" dictators (talking about social and economical programs, not genocide offcourse), yes unions where and are fucked in rusia, china and cuba, etc etc.

maybe we should start an anarchist/left-communist glenn beck is right fanclub.... that would piss him off.

I thought unions were fine in Cuba. :confused:

[Nolan]

I thought unions were fine in Cuba. :confused:

The unions do wield quite a bit of influence in Cuba.

The unions in Russia are fucked now. ;)

[Chambered Word]

The unions do wield quite a bit of influence in Cuba.

The unions in Russia are fucked now. ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers%27_Central_Union_of_Cuba


Members 3 million Country Cuba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba)

It's going to be pretty ironic when we post the response to Glenn Beck: 'Well how are unions doing under Castro?' Probably better than in America. :lol:

[Nolan]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers%27_Central_Union_of_Cuba



It's going to be pretty ironic when we post the response to Glenn Beck: 'Well how are unions doing under Castro?' Probably better than in America. :lol:

Thing is, that's only the largest one. It's affiliated with the government, and also the Communist Party I believe. There are numerous unions with no ties to the state or the party that have influence as well.

[Chambered Word]

Thing is, that's only the largest one. It's affiliated with the government, and also the Communist Party I believe. There are numerous unions with no ties to the state or the party that have influence as well.

Alright, if you have any names I'd be happy to include them in the refutation video.

If there is anyone with information on Cuban trade unions, please tell me. :)

[Comrade B]

I did not know about this. I think I just got a hard on. Nothing like Beck for the peck

[Il Medico]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers%27_Central_Union_of_Cuba



It's going to be pretty ironic when we post the response to Glenn Beck: 'Well how are unions doing under Castro?' Probably better than in America. :lol:
There are 15.3 millon union members in the US, apparently. Of course the US also has a lot more people, but people like Beck don't like context.

Not that unions are worth much anyways...